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High School football

Post by elliott70 » Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:14 pm

Any fans around?

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Re: High School football

Post by elliott70 » Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:18 pm

Section 8 5A

Some have told me that it will come down between Brainerd and Bemidji.
Bemidji has a good QB returning and a phenom of an athlete at WR and DB plus a contingent of other O and D weapons.
I am not sold on their O & D lines, yet.

Brainerd has a strong program and always puts a quality product on the field.

Moorhead lost some weapons but again a big school and lots of bodies.

Ditto for Alexandria.

Sartell will likely be at the tail end but should show improvement from last year's young squad.

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Re: High School football

Post by elliott70 » Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:48 pm

In 7 5A it has to be Andover.

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Re: High School football

Post by elliott70 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:36 pm

Section 8 5A started slow.
Bemidji wins.
Brainerd, Moorhead, Alexandria and Sartell all lose in the first week.
Brainerd, Moorhead and Alex had tough opponents.

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Re: High School football

Post by Upfan111 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:19 pm

Good idea Elliott on starting a high school football message! I'd guess this will have some interest.

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Re: High School football

Post by elliott70 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:51 pm

Bemidji has Big Lake at home Friday (9/7).
The Jacks gave eth game away last year in Big Lake.

I see Bemidji by 14 points in this one.

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Re: High School football

Post by goldy313 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:41 am

Owatonna continues to roll.
Caledonia has a top 5 winning streak in the nation, section 1AA looks to be very competitive though as 2 of the 1AA teams knocked off 2 1AAAA teams in week one.

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Re: High School football

Post by elliott70 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:58 pm

Owatonna is a football machine.

Elk River seems to have developed a strong program.

Andover is also proving to have the keys to a good program.

Bemidji went to Eden Prairie about 8 years ago and copied their youth program. It is starting to pay off at the high school level now.

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Re: High School football

Post by goldy313 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:37 am

I have dealt with Mike Grant numerous times......picking up on what he does can't hurt. He rubs some people the wrong way and I get that. He runs a good program at EP, obviously Eden Prairie has certain advantages like a huge enrollment, low F/R lunch numbers, etc. But he still beats similar schools. His teams do not beat themselves.

The Owatonna coach is the son of a former John Marshall coach, Rochester did not hire him so he ended up at Owatonna. By and large he runs the same offense they have run at Owatonna for 50 years. He adapts it to fit his kids but the offense is nothing no one has ever seen, they just run basically the same 5 plays ( to left and right makes it 10) but they run it extremely well.

If you back to the 60's and earlier the Minneapolis paper put on a "Championship" game between the public school champion voted on as there were no playoffs and the top Catholic school team. Last year I would have liked to see EP play Owatonna.

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Re: High School football

Post by northwoods oldtimer » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:55 pm

elliott70 wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:58 pm
Owatonna is a football machine.

Elk River seems to have developed a strong program.

Andover is also proving to have the keys to a good program.

Bemidji went to Eden Prairie about 8 years ago and copied their youth program. It is starting to pay off at the high school level now.
Awesome move Elliot, wish we had a program in Rapids. Indian, err Thunderhawk football is horrible.
You one lucky man!

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Re: High School football

Post by Rocketwrister » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:40 am

Oldtimer--
Why is Rapids football not very good? With them being a bigger school in 4A I would think they would have more numbers. Is it the better athletes just play hockey? Hermantown, I don't believe, have hockey kids out for the team. Cloquet doesn't have hockey players.

Just curious

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Re: High School football

Post by elliott70 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:05 pm

Rocketwrister wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:40 am
Oldtimer--
Why is Rapids football not very good? With them being a bigger school in 4A I would think they would have more numbers. Is it the better athletes just play hockey? Hermantown, I don't believe, have hockey kids out for the team. Cloquet doesn't have hockey players.

Just curious
Hermantown has a couple...
Elliott Peterson who is a 3 year hockey player is a captain on the football team and starts at running back and linebacker.

Wrong just Peterson.
But he scored both touchdowns in Friday night win, so big contribution from hockey.
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Re: High School football

Post by northwoods oldtimer » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:36 pm

Rocketwrister wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:40 am
Oldtimer--
Why is Rapids football not very good? With them being a bigger school in 4A I would think they would have more numbers. Is it the better athletes just play hockey? Hermantown, I don't believe, have hockey kids out for the team. Cloquet doesn't have hockey players.

Just curious
Rocketwrister, Rapids has a really good Jaycee youth program but they lose a sizable portion of their stud athletes in football during 7,8 and 9th grade years. Have heard its just really unorganized at this level and kids move on to other interests. The lack of athletes at Varsity level is significant. New head coach has lots of enthusiasm so hopefully he takes to learning from the Bemidji model.

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Re: High School football

Post by goldy313 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:44 am

Caledonia continues to roll, 44 straight. Week 8 has Caledonia traveling to St Charles, :x a out of 3 to be state champ.

Owatonna has yet to be challenged.

FWIW the Big10 sucks

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Re: High School football

Post by Upfan111 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:12 pm

In section 7 4A I see Hermantown narrowly beat Denfeld. North Branch lost to Duluth East. Cloquet rolled Hibbing. Rapids beat Proctor.

Hermantown and Cloquet both without a loss.

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Re: High School football

Post by goldy313 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:45 am

Caledonia wins again, their under varsity teams are now playing the Rochester schools, with about 100,000 less in population. The last varsity loss was almost 4 years ago.

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Re: High School football

Post by elliott70 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:49 pm

Caledonia is a power. But not in AAAAAA so not a lot of people know of them outside of Houston County.

Lots of good football down in southeastern MN.

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Re: High School football

Post by goldy313 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:47 am

Two Houston County teams won state titles last year, just South of Houston County is Allamakee County in Iowa who also had a state champ in Waukon.

Caledonia wins again, 45 straight, out scoring their opponents 186-13 this season, they travel to Chatfield next Friday in what could be their toughest opponent this entire year.

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Re: High School football

Post by goldy313 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:25 am

QRF sucks.......really #5Cannon Falls just beat #1 Breck handily. So did #4 Waseca over a #1, West beat a higher seed for the umpteenth straight year.

It really, really sucks.....Lee has a much better system.

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Re: High School football

Post by elliott70 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:14 pm

QRF does an okay job where the teams play a similar schedule.
Otherwise you do not have enough games and do not have enough common opponents AND they give credit for playing up and detract when playing down a level. In MN football that does not mean much.

The last few years Duluth East has been given a 4th seed or so only to get blown out in the first game.
They play no 5A schools during the year but end up with a decent record with meaningless wins.

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Re: High School football

Post by goldy313 » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:06 am

A 2-6 Cannon Falls team just won a section title (easily) as a #6 seed. They were seeded behind two Minneapolis City Conference teams and two top 7 AP Teams....Waseca just won title easily as a #4 seed. Lee has a much better system.

Playing a tough schedule means something, that is why Rochester Century can put up 20 wins and be a #3 seed under a .500 Lakeville team.

QFF needs work!

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Re: High School football

Post by goldy313 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:54 am

Bemidji wins again!

I hope they beat the sandbagging Cadets, of course then they get put in running time by the Owatonna Indians....err Huskies.

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Re: High School football

Post by elliott70 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:31 pm

Tough road the rest of the way for the Lumberjacks.
But one day at a time.
We will see how practice goes this week.

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Re: High School football

Post by northwoods oldtimer » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:38 pm

Bemidji has really turned out a solid football program. Kudos to the Lumberjacks!

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