trade Santana for a power hitter or Two???

Indians forever · Post by **Indians forever** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:29 am

I might be on drugs, but what do you all think of this?

EREmpireStrikesBack · Post by **EREmpireStrikesBack** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:47 pm

You are on drugs.

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:14 pm

Trading Santana isn't far fetched.

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:22 pm

Trading Santana is a necessity.

They ought to do it sooner than later.

George Blanda · Post by **George Blanda** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:04 pm

you are not on drugs...that would be a very wise move...

Trade him for some good prospects or a power hitter...

We have potential in our pitching staff...

Baker
Slowey
Perkins
Garza
Liriano
Bonser

There are more names out there that could step in in the near future. It's obvious that we're in need of a little rebuilding and we can't do that with Santana in Minnesota as long as Pohlad keeps pinching those pennies.

EREmpireStrikesBack · Post by **EREmpireStrikesBack** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:56 pm

It's not a bad idea. The reason he is on drugs is because nobody will give us an established power hitter for Johan. It's easy to say we should do this, but it won't happen.

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:42 pm

EREmpireStrikesBack wrote:It's not a bad idea. The reason he is on drugs is because nobody will give us an established power hitter for Johan. It's easy to say we should do this, but it won't happen.

Bring back Harmon!

Indians forever · Post by **Indians forever** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:35 am

EREmpireStrikesBack wrote:It's not a bad idea. The reason he is on drugs is because nobody will give us an established power hitter for Johan. It's easy to say we should do this, but it won't happen.

not sure but have the Twins ever put up Santana as Trade Bait?????

Irishmans Shanty · Post by **Irishmans Shanty** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:47 am

If they haven't, they are idiots. Nobody is untradeable if you think the deal makes you better.

The Twins front office has made a habit out of retaliating rather than instigating in recent years.

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:12 am

Ryan wasnt any good at the free agent thing but he did make some good trades.

Shannon Stewart, Silva, Bonser, Nathan, Liriano and Punto all got here by trades.

If we cant get some O in here via free agency, lets start tradin. We have pitching depth.

If you dont want to trade Santana, then go the other way and trade Slowey, or Garza etc.

The offense would be easy to improve on. Anything would help. Lets go.

Indians forever · Post by **Indians forever** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:04 am

at least now I know shouldn't commit myself to rehab!!! Lets Sign Torri and get some power hitters in the line up!!!!

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:26 pm

Trading him would be a viable option, but as said EREmpireStrikesBack, it won't happen to get what we need. We have a few options:
-Get rid of other pitchers for O.
-Increase our team salary for more O.
-Let Santana hit.
-Stop playing Punto and play Watkins.
-Offer to pay for A-Rod.

Do nothing else but the last two on the list and we'll be just fine.

Goldy Gopher · Post by **Goldy Gopher** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:29 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:Trading him would be a viable option, but as said EREmpireStrikesBack, it won't happen to get what we need. We have a few options:
-Get rid of other pitchers for O.
-Increase our team salary for more O.
-Let Santana hit.
-Stop playing Punto and play Watkins.
-Offer to pay for A-Rod.

Do nothing else but the last two on the list and we'll be just fine.

So nice to see you're back.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:48 pm

Thanks. So nice to see you comment on what I wrote

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:04 pm

Goldy Gopher wrote:
So nice to see you're back.

Goldy Gopher is not a team player or he didn't get the memo

Little Falls Fan · Post by **Little Falls Fan** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:41 am

personally i think that santana has had a solid year. but doesnt seem to emotionally attached to this team anymore. its sad to say, but he doesnt want to be here anymore. main reason why is the castillo trade. the trade wasnt need at that time. the twins make poor decisions at some points and this was one of them. castillo was a great influence in the dugout and a blast to watch. dont get me wrong the twins trade very well, but this was an un-needed trade. set the whole team off. but johan no longer cares about the team, let him finish out the next season, mentor liriano, baker, and garza... give them some needed advice. we just need to let him go if we want to and move on... were a small market team and well do fine without him

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:15 pm

What are the odds of the team being "blown up", trading both Santana and Nathan while letting both Silva and Torii walk? 2010 is coming fast, and will guarantee sellouts regardless. Will packerboy still be a fan knowing Carl sold him out? Stay tuned...

I don't know how you blackberry guys do this so well, I'm at Champp's - Larpenter, and this bites....

Govs93 · Post by **Govs93** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:25 pm

Neutron 14 wrote:I don't know how you blackberry guys do this so well, I'm at Champp's - Larpenter, and this bites....

Amateur... Haven't you seen my legendary "In Game Updates" during the hockey season?!

Get into the 21st century for crying out loud!

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:56 pm

If a player(s) is disasitified by the Castillo trade and his performance suffers as a result, get rid of him.

These guys are something else. They want the big salaries and they want the team to stay together. With only a handful of exceptions, teams cant operate that way.

Trade GMtana to Texas and see how emotionaly attached he gets there.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:55 pm

On the surface, saying Santana is unloyal while he's disappointed is just like saying KG was disloyal. For years KG has been loyal to the T-wolves and never asked for a trade, but has been very much disappointed about the team and what the people in charge are doing.

What's the big deal that Santana actually voices his opinion? That's like telling you in your firm that you should keep your mouth shut if what is going on in the administration isn't right. He's upset, he should be. Looking at the pitching specific stats, he was easily the best (or close to) pitcher in MLB. He has every right to be upset and voice his opinion.

theref · Post by **theref** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:52 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:On the surface, saying Santana is unloyal while he's disappointed is just like saying KG was disloyal. For years KG has been loyal to the T-wolves and never asked for a trade, but has been very much disappointed about the team and what the people in charge are doing.

What's the big deal that Santana actually voices his opinion? That's like telling you in your firm that you should keep your mouth shut if what is going on in the administration isn't right. He's upset, he should be. Looking at the pitching specific stats, he was easily the best (or close to) pitcher in MLB. He has every right to be upset and voice his opinion.

I can't say that I agree with this. Kevin Garnett didn't come out and say that he needed help or that the t-wolves should do this or that. It wasn't his job. His job was to play basketball. Johan's job is to pitch, not to question the owners and GM. He could say that "Hey, it would be great if we brought in so and so, the run support would sure be great" but he doesn't need to say anything when they don't bring in a hitter. When he retires and becomes a GM, then he can worry about that stuff. That's like football players telling the coach what play to call. It's not your job, just go out there and play your position.