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Post by hockeyfan82 » Mon Mar 03, 2003 12:16 pm

does anybody know where i can find any midget hockey history in minnesota?<br>it would help alot thanks <p></p><i></i>

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Post by shooter812 » Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:37 pm

your not gonna find any because of high school hockey but if you get a chance to watch it, it's much more skilled than high school hockey.

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Post by Hockey09 » Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:58 pm

yes, my brother played for the ojibwe eagles in houghton michigan, they were ok. great fun to watch.

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Post by shooter812 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:27 pm

Ojibwa is ranked around 90th for the U18. Not saying there the worst but once you see top 20 teams playng against eachother it is about 2 steps above MN High School hockey. (Speed and Strength of players)

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Post by Hockey09 » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:34 pm

ic, he played for them the first year they were a team. till two years ago he go to old. hes an assistant coach now.

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Post by Willman21 » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:27 pm

Ojibwa is ranked around 90th for the U18. Not saying there the worst but once you see top 20 teams playng against eachother it is about 2 steps above MN High School hockey. (Speed and Strength of players)

That is the dumbest thing ive ever heard

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Post by shooter812 » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:02 am

Would you care to explain why my post was dumb? It's truth. The only teams in MN that would compete are top 10 and the only teams I see beating Midget teams that are in the top 10 would be top 5 MN teams.

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Post by willtowin » Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:48 pm

I totally agree with Shooter. The top 20, maybe even top 30 Tier 1 Midget AAA teams would have very little problem with the top 5 or 10 MN high school teams. Most MN hockey fans can relate to the talent level of Shattuck St Mary's Prep team and since they've racked up 9 losses against Midget AAA competition this year, I would think that would help anyone better understand the overall skill of the league.

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Post by Bash Brother » Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:19 pm

willtowin wrote:I totally agree with Shooter. The top 20, maybe even top 30 Tier 1 Midget AAA teams would have very little problem with the top 5 or 10 MN high school teams. Most MN hockey fans can relate to the talent level of Shattuck St Mary's Prep team and since they've racked up 9 losses against Midget AAA competition this year, I would think that would help anyone better understand the overall skill of the league.
They lost to a top 5 or 10 Mshsl team

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Post by shooter812 » Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:05 pm

hmm...Holy Angels is actually #1 in Minnesota and through quick research that was the first time Holy Angels beat SSM in the past 4 years.

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Post by Bash Brother » Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:09 pm

shooter812 wrote:hmm...Holy Angels is actually #1 in Minnesota and through quick research that was the first time Holy Angels beat SSM in the past 4 years.
#1 is in the top 5 and also the top 10

I didn't say anything about any other year, this is this year, four years ago doesn't matter.

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Post by shooter812 » Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:19 pm

I know but why would you categorize it as top 5 or top 10 if you knew they were #1? Not going to argue about why SSM lost to AHA but when SSM beat Blake 9-0 and shots were 65-6 and I know blake hasn't had the best year but still that's pretty sad.

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Post by shooter812 » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:44 pm

Just to make my point stronger I watched the NikeBauer Invite at New Hope this past november that had 2 Minnesota Elite teams with all the best players picked from the original league combined into 2 and if you look at the championship game it was 2 Midget AAA teams SSM and Team Illinois.

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Post by High Flyer » Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:03 pm

Tier 1 hockey is very strong and all you need to do is the math.

Just compare Minn. to Mich. Both states have compraible numbers, yet in MN, our high school talent pool is spreadout geograhicly throughout the state on several differnt high school teams. In Mich., (like most other states) the top players don't play high school hockey and they play midget hockey. The top 30 U-18 players (11th & 12 grade) are probably on one of two Major Midget teams in Michigan.

Now how good would Minnesota be if they took thier top 30 players and put them on two team? This is the kind of talent level that is out there at the Midget level throughout North America.

Now broaden your focus, to other areas accross North America, Michigan, Toronto, Illinios, California, New York, New Jersey, Texas, Florida, etc... There are proably at least 30 teams U-18 teams in North America that could come to Minnesota and beat our top 5 high school teams.

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Post by shooter812 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:58 pm

amen.

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Post by gh12345 » Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:53 pm

Minnesota high school teams(excluding private schools) are not able to seek out top talent in the country, much less in the state. Private schools get kids from many different communities of Minnesota. All public high schools in MN have players from their communities. Based on the number of some communities in MN, AAA teams should be able to beat MN teams. Roseau High School, 277 kids, not alot to draw from, yet they are the best team in the state could probably take out any AAA team. That's just one example.

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Post by High Flyer » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:38 pm

gh12345

Did you watch Belle Tire play any games last winter?

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Post by friendlyreminder » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:56 pm

I watched Belle Tire, SSM Prep, Detroit Honeybaked, Cape Cod Whalers, Russell Stover, Buffalo Saints, Pittsburgh Predators and all the other U18 teams at Nationals this past year and all very impressive and great hockey it's unbeliveable.

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Post by gh12345 » Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:22 pm

No I didn't see them play, but I know they are a solid team. They would probably beat most teams in Minnesota. I'm not trying to take anything away from AAA hockey or Minnesota High School. I'm just saying, Midget AAA should be better since the teams can recruit the best players from around the country, where as Minnesota High Schools can only draw from their communities.

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Post by High Flyer » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:32 am

gh12345

I'm just currious, have you actually seen any these AAA teams play that you claim that "Roseau High School could probably take out"?

Which team, who did they play and when?

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Post by gh12345 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:22 pm

The only team I've seen play this past year was SSM's prep team when they played Holy Angels. Assuming that SSM is the best team in the country in AAA since they won the national championship, seeing them lose to a Minnesota High School team that was top ranked all year until beaten out in sections, i'd be willing to say that a team like Roseau, with at least 4 kids going to WCHA schools, could play with if not beat any AAA team.

I'm not trying to take away from Minnesota High School or AAA, they are both great hockey with positives and negatives.

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Post by Bash Brother » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:11 pm

Sorry but Roseau could not take SSM

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Post by Hockey=Life » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:49 pm

I saw someone talk about the Nike Bauer Elite tournament held at New Hope... Well SSM should beat the Minnesota teams along with the other AAA teams. The Minnesota teams practice one time and play 3 games. Every other team plays year round together. Yet, the Minnesota Elite teams still held there ground and won some games and I guarentee if you take those Minnesota teams and have them play year round, they will easily be the best around.

Enough said.

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Post by shooter812 » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:27 am

well it's not how it works. Plus, Those are the TOP players in MN and you have random Midget teams not even the the very best and they still beat on MN high school.

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Post by Wisco » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:51 pm

Shooter812, Shattuck Prep is first in the nation in MidgetAAA, they played 2nd in state Holy angels whom didnt make it out of sectionals anyways, and lost 7-5, stop saying midget AAA "beats on MN high school" because that is just idiotic and bias after what happened, that proofs that the top mn high schools can stick with any top midget program. Shattuck is a great program, but saying that they "beat on mn high school" after they lost is just ignorant

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