Vikings in trouble for opening day?

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:04 pm

Why would anybody give anything for this guy?

Who would even want him in camp?

Second biggest draft bust in Purple history.

Govs93 · Post by **Govs93** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:12 pm

packerboy wrote:Why would anybody give anything for this guy?

Who would even want him in camp?

Second biggest draft bust in Purple history.

Remember this...

The Vikes traded Randy Moss to Oakland for Napoleon Harris (who did virtually nothing in 2 seasons.. the 2nd as a backup), and the 7th pick in the '05 draft (Troy Williamson... also did virtually nothing).

So, if you break it all the way down, essentially, Randy Moss was traded away for Jacksonville's 6th round pick. AWESOME!

EREmpireStrikesBack · Post by **EREmpireStrikesBack** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:22 pm

Govs93 wrote:
packerboy wrote:Why would anybody give anything for this guy?

Who would even want him in camp?

Second biggest draft bust in Purple history.
Remember this...

The Vikes traded Randy Moss to Oakland for Napoleon Harris (who did virtually nothing in 2 seasons.. the 2nd as a backup), and the 7th pick in the '05 draft (Troy Williamson... also did virtually nothing).

So, if you break it all the way down, essentially, Randy Moss was traded away for Jacksonville's 6th round pick. AWESOME!

What did Randy do while he was in Oakland though? Got traded for a 4th rounder?

dangla. · Post by **dangla.** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:02 pm

I bet they pick up some no name guy we don't need when free agent signing starts

Jason87 · Post by **Jason87** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:31 pm

Vikings offered a third rounder for Sage Rosenfels.

Quite a good deal if it happens, he's a capable starter, then go sign wide out D.J Hackett in free agency. Then a DE(Justin Smith or Odom from the Titans.)

dangla. · Post by **dangla.** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:33 pm

Jason87 wrote:Vikings offered a third rounder for Sage Rosenfels.

Quite a good deal if it happens, he's a capable starter, then go sign wide out D.J Hackett in free agency. Then a DE(Justin Smith or Odom from the Titans.)

Who is Sage Rosenfels?

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:53 pm

dangla. wrote:
Jason87 wrote:Vikings offered a third rounder for Sage Rosenfels.

Quite a good deal if it happens, he's a capable starter, then go sign wide out D.J Hackett in free agency. Then a DE(Justin Smith or Odom from the Titans.)
Who is Sage Rosenfels?

Backup QB for the Texans who played well in extended action for them last year. It would be a solid pickup if they got him for a 3rd. He would push Jackson and possibly overtake him.

schwang17 · Post by **schwang17** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:05 pm

Blue Breeze wrote:
dangla. wrote:
Jason87 wrote:Vikings offered a third rounder for Sage Rosenfels.

Quite a good deal if it happens, he's a capable starter, then go sign wide out D.J Hackett in free agency. Then a DE(Justin Smith or Odom from the Titans.)
Who is Sage Rosenfels?
Backup QB for the Texans who played well in extended action for them last year. It would be a solid pickup if they got him for a 3rd. He would push Jackson and possibly overtake him.

Welcome back, BB...

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:16 am

schwang17 wrote:Welcome back, BB...

Thanks.

Bernard Berrian in for a visit today, along with RB/KR Maurice Hicks.

Justin Smith and ex-Gopher Thomas Tapeh expected later today or tomorrow.

Also rumored that the Vikes already have a deal in place with Madieu Williams. Should be a busy day.

Govs93 · Post by **Govs93** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:23 am

Blue Breeze wrote:
Justin Smith and ex-Governor Thomas Tapeh expected later today or tomorrow.

I corrected your post for you... good info though.

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:31 am

Madieu Williams the 1st signing. (Hammering out final details)

http://www.twincities.com/ci_8407216?so ... ck_check=1

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:46 pm

Thomas Tapeh back in the Twin Cities.

http://vikings.com/NewsArticle_tapehagrees22908.aspx

Govs93 · Post by **Govs93** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:15 pm

Blue Breeze wrote:Thomas Tapeh back in the Twin Cities.

http://vikings.com/NewsArticle_tapehagrees22908.aspx

No need to thank me, Vikes fans. You're welcome.

I also feel that it's somehow fitting that a Raider is paving the way for a Governor. All is right with the world!

Guess that means it's adios for Tony Richardson.

SEChockeyfan08 · Post by **SEChockeyfan08** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:23 am

I saw Javon Walker was released today by the Broncos.

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:36 pm

SEChockeyfan08 wrote:I saw Javon Walker was released today by the Broncos.

Worth a gamble if he takes an incentive-laden deal, but a lot of people feel his knee is wrecked beyond repair. He is a big name but he can't expect much dough because he is a huge risk.

schwang17 · Post by **schwang17** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:26 pm

Blue Breeze wrote:
schwang17 wrote:Welcome back, BB...
Thanks.

Bernard Berrian in for a visit today, along with RB/KR Maurice Hicks.

Justin Smith and ex-Gopher Thomas Tapeh expected later today or tomorrow.

Also rumored that the Vikes already have a deal in place with Madieu Williams. Should be a busy day.

And we sign Bernard Berrian. Still need a QB, IMO.

http://www.vikings.com/NewsArticle_Berr ... 30108.aspx

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:05 pm

schwang17 wrote:
And we sign Bernard Berrian. Still need a QB, IMO.

http://www.vikings.com/NewsArticle_Berr ... 30108.aspx

Maybe we do schwang but where do you get one?

They are scarce.

They are doing the next best thing, one year late, which is building a team around him.

The Purple has done well in recent years with adequate QBs, if they had a team around him.

Irishmans Shanty · Post by **Irishmans Shanty** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:31 pm

Berrien is fast. Beyond that, I'm not sure.

Berrien's previous team (who needs recievers in a bad way) did very little to try keep him, this raises a red flag with me.

goldy313 · Post by **goldy313** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:17 pm

Berrian lucked into the fact that the WR free agency is class is very weak. The Vikings made him the 4th highest paid WR in the league (Moss will bump him down to 5th once he signs) He's definatly an upgrade over Williamson but given the Vikings had, statistically, the worst starting QB in the NFL last year I don't see how this helps much.

The Vikings have pressing issues; no legitimate plan at QB, a OT who will be suspended by the league and he played on the "good" side, and no pass rush. Wide receiver wasn't a strength by any means on this team but it wasn't a priority need either.

Free agency or not the Vikings season will hinge on 2 questions:
1) Can Jackson be a NFL level QB
2) Will Peterson be able to pick up a blitz

I think the answer to both is no, but I hope I'm wrong because they're both young players and could be productive Vikings for a long time.

Govs93 · Post by **Govs93** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:49 pm

Mewelde Moore is going to Pittsburgh. No huge loss for the Vikes, but what do the Steelers want with him? Is Najeh Davenport a free agent?

schwang17 · Post by **schwang17** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:03 am

packerboy wrote:Maybe we do schwang but where do you get one?

They are scarce.

They are doing the next best thing, one year late, which is building a team around him.

The Purple has done well in recent years with adequate QBs, if they had a team around him.

Jackson's tools are so flawed it's gonna be too late for him by the time he's even close to what I would call "adequate." Comb the wires, talk to agents, look into trading up in the draft but don't bet on Jackson carrying us anywhere news worthy. It won't happen.

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:46 pm

schwang17 wrote:
packerboy wrote:Maybe we do schwang but where do you get one?

They are scarce.

They are doing the next best thing, one year late, which is building a team around him.

The Purple has done well in recent years with adequate QBs, if they had a team around him.
Jackson's tools are so flawed it's gonna be too late for him by the time he's even close to what I would call "adequate." Comb the wires, talk to agents, look into trading up in the draft but don't bet on Jackson carrying us anywhere news worthy. It won't happen.

TJack isnt my favoroite either schwang so I took your advice and here is who I came up with. Whataya think?

schwang17 · Post by **schwang17** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:54 pm

packerboy wrote:
schwang17 wrote:
packerboy wrote:Maybe we do schwang but where do you get one?

They are scarce.

They are doing the next best thing, one year late, which is building a team around him.

The Purple has done well in recent years with adequate QBs, if they had a team around him.
Jackson's tools are so flawed it's gonna be too late for him by the time he's even close to what I would call "adequate." Comb the wires, talk to agents, look into trading up in the draft but don't bet on Jackson carrying us anywhere news worthy. It won't happen.
TJack isnt my favoroite either schwang so I took your advice and here is who I came up with. Whataya think?

Genius, PB. Absolutely genius. What about Cunningham? We drug him out of some construction job last time - what's he up to these days?

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:23 pm

See, there yah go, I didnt even think of Randall C.

Why cant the Vikings come up with this kind of stuff?

I really do think TJack will be OK (emphasis on OK) if he has some guys around him.

One more WR and a tight end along with AP should make him better.

It will be a kick ass offense just like Chilly said. we hope

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:18 pm

I betcha Tommy Kramer can still throw them...................................................................................................................................................................................................................... back like never before