Letter to Editor re: Hill-Murray

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Post by pistol » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:38 pm

The first call went against Hill. Singerhouse checked his man just after the Ram had released the puck. Ticky-tacky interference penalty... but we will let Roseau have this one. However, you certainly cannot call Singerhouse a thug.
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Post by pistol » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:48 pm

Lots of pushing and shoving by both teams in this game... usually right in front of Phillippi after he receives a cheap shot.

Girls are holding "Marry Me, Dan Sova" signs. He seems like a nice kid. You can hear him trying to get Stadler to smile for the cameras during the first game introductions. All season Big Dan Sova used his reach and not his size to check the puck and not the body. You have to be a real jerk to get Dan Sova angry.

Offsetting penalties go to Oliver and Sova.

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Post by pistol » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:59 pm

Ten and a half minutes are gone from period one before Hill gets its first power play. Watch Rams #24 start all the way from the top circle... he never sees anything but Casto's back... a perfect check if you want to change somebody's life forever... before Casto goes head first into the boards, #24 puts an elbow between the Pioneer defenseman's shoulder blades to increase the chance of injury.

That's #24 Kostrzewski and the Rams with the first of one of the most thuggish plays of the game.
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Post by pistol » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:07 pm

Two minutes later, Hill's Nick Widing takes an elbow to the head as Rams #21 boards him in front of his own bench. To make this play potentially more dangerous than the one that almost killed Gopher, Tommy Pohl, the Rams open the gate while Widing is getting checked into it.

Thuggish play #2 and first missed call of the game goes to Roseau.

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Post by pistol » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:17 pm

The next call catches Hill's Johnson holding... no tackle... no chance for injury... not even much of a hold... but a hold none the less.

Hill's Zepeda fights off a hook from #9 Knochenmus and clears the zone. If Zepeda were a Ram you might have expected him to take a dive.

Penalty expires as Ness, doing a spin move, locks his skates with Johnson coming out of the box. Roseau fans ask for another penalty. What a joke.
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Post by pistol » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:35 pm

The period ends on an incident which Roseau fans like to rest their case. Hill's Kohls gives Ness a little shove after the whistle.

Kohls chuckles at the comic dive tried as Ness throws both arms back, belly-flopping on the ice instead of just taking a step and staying on his feet.

The Rams get the last laugh though since the refs bought it hook, line and sinker.

The push would not have toppled my two-year-old toddler. Kohls should not have taken his first penalty of the tournament, but he was careful not to take another penalty over the rest of his junior season.

Hill was credited with 2 hits in the first period versus the Rams' 5 (two of which were intended to injure).

Thug label goes to Roseau in the first.
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Post by DmanDad1980 » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:37 pm

pistol wrote:
I will go through the game a shift at a time and give you the objective answer.
:shock:

Too much time bud, too much time... :lol:

Time for a rest pistol, your barrel is too hot! Starting to affect the firing mechanism... :lol:

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Post by pistol » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:49 pm

Back to the game...

One minute into the second and the Rams third power play, Hill's Jeff Westerhouse slows up, trying to avoid contact after Rams' #7 dishes the puck.

#7 Tyler Landman dives in a vain attempt for a 5-on-3 power play.
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Post by mulefarm » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:59 pm

Pistol,
Don't quit now! You are on a roll. Plus you are accurate!!!

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Post by pistol » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:11 pm

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Three minutes into the second period Phillippi has been taking more abuse in goal. Plus, I see a hook after the whistle by Ram #27 but miss the offsetting penalties.

A minute later Tyler Landman is on his knees trying to cover a puck in the Rams' slot. Hill's Ryan Furne drops down to check him off the puck. Some fans ask for an interference call without realizing Landman had the puck.

Oliver avoids a charging or interference call... only because a Hill-Murray Pioneer plays bullfighter, sidestepping the check.

Now six minutes in... Hill's Kelly puts a stick on Tyler Landman... no hooking or pull-down motion... funny that Landman starts his dive before the stick even touches him... Rams get their fourth power play.
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Post by DmanDad1980 » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:11 pm

mulefarm wrote:Pistol,
Don't quit now! You are on a roll. Plus you are accurate!!!
Pistol put the mule out of his misery... :lol:

and the rest of us... :lol:

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Post by pistol » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:17 pm

Both of you are going to have to wait until next time to see how this game ends, because I have to leave you for now.

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Post by hcky09 » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:18 pm

ok pistol were are you this was just getting exciting, I want to hear the play by play of the rest of the game.

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Post by BIAFP » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:28 am

pistol wrote:Three minutes into the second period and Phillippi has been taking more abuse in goal. I see a hook after the whistle by Ram #27 but miss the offsetting penalties.

A minute later Tyler Landman is on his knees trying to cover a puck in the Rams' slot. Hill's Ryan Furne drops down to check him off the puck. Some fans ask for an interference call without knowing the location of the puck.

Oliver ovoids a charging or interference call, only because a Hill-Murray Pioneer plays bullfighter sidestepping the check.

Six minutes in... Hill's Kelly puts a stick on Tyler Landman... no hooking or pull-down motion... funny that Landman starts his dive before the stick even touches him... Rams get their fourth power play.

Nice Recap by none other than Stevie Wonder :roll:

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Post by HockeyFan1 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:59 am

BIAFP wrote:
pistol wrote:Three minutes into the second period and Phillippi has been taking more abuse in goal. I see a hook after the whistle by Ram #27 but miss the offsetting penalties.

A minute later Tyler Landman is on his knees trying to cover a puck in the Rams' slot. Hill's Ryan Furne drops down to check him off the puck. Some fans ask for an interference call without knowing the location of the puck.

Oliver ovoids a charging or interference call, only because a Hill-Murray Pioneer plays bullfighter sidestepping the check.

Six minutes in... Hill's Kelly puts a stick on Tyler Landman... no hooking or pull-down motion... funny that Landman starts his dive before the stick even touches him... Rams get their fourth power play.

Nice Recap by none other than Stevie Wonder :roll:
Pistol was that you reffing the game :?: :lol:

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Post by pistol » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:05 pm

Rams' #9 Knochenmus and #21 Koenig combine for several holds, hooks and a trip... all on the same Hill-Murray Cecka/Zepeda breakaway chance.

Valiantly, Dan Cecka stays with the play long enough for the refs to catch one of the Roseau holding infractions.

This penalty puts the Pioneers on the power play for only the second time in this game.

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Post by pistol » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:07 pm

The Rams are given another chance by a Pioneer, delayed penalty, but before the whistle is blown, Rams' #27 Ben Nelson, checking-from-behind, sends Hill's Jeff Westerhaus into the boards behind the goal... gives him an elbowing shot to the head... adds a high-sticking necktie to Jeff's windpipe... then holding him in a headlock, slams Jeff into the ice... head first.

All of that adds up to just one roughing minor penalty on the Rams, only to offset the original delayed penalty.

The 2-minute rough is so far one of this game's three most thuggish, dangerous, intent to injure plays... and all belonging to the Roseau Rams.

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Post by pistol » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:16 pm

Only 5 minutes to go in the second period and we still cannot find one iota of thuggish play coming from the Hill-Murray Pioneers... as claimed by the haters du Nord.

There is a nice centering pass by Kohls.

Why is Cecka so late?

Rewind...

No holding or interference call as Cecka is fighting through a mugging at the blue line!

How did Roseau become the most penalized team at State in spite of so many missed calls?

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Post by Neutron 14 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:53 pm

Slowest Zamboni driver ever. Lets get back to the action!
The only soft spot I see is the one between my legs

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Post by sachishi4 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:01 pm

Neutron 14 wrote:Slowest Zamboni driver ever. Lets get back to the action!
no, we arent at the coliseum

i dont think that guy has ever heard of the gas pedal

I believe we have the mini-mites duking it out on the ice right now, sorry for the delay
State ‘83, ‘91, ‘08, ‘20

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Post by pistol » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:31 am

This is painstaking work, looking for mythical thuggish play from Hill-Murray, like BIAFP looking for his courage.

I have to let my wife wonder if I am having an affair, rather than let her know I am arguing online with decaying has-beens and snot-nosed dropouts!

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Post by mulefarm » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:42 am

Pistol,
Please keep going. The suspense won't let me get a good night's sleep until you finish the 3rd period. Tell your wife a lot of people are counting on you and you won't let them down!!

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Post by Hillhockey000 » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:20 am

Yes Hill gets a lot of players from many different towns, but they get all there students from many different towns...
There are 986 kids in grade 7-12 at Hill, 40 are on either the JV or Varsity hockey teams. The percentages of total students and the percentage of hockey players are very close for most towns.
It is pretty split up from where these kids come from:

Woodbury: Total Students – 202 (20% of school)
Hockey Players – 8 (20%)

White Bear Lake/Hugo/Vadnais Heights: Total Students - 126 (12.7%)
HP – 3 (7.5%)

Maplewood: Total Students – 110 (11.1%)
HP – 1 (2.5%)

St. Paul: Total Students – 89 (9%)
HP – 2 (5%)

Stillwater: Total Students – 85 (8.6%)
HP – 4 (10%)

Oakdale:
Total Students – 71 (7.2% of school)
HP – 2 (5% of Total HP)

Shoreview/North Oaks/Arden Hills: Total Students – 41 (4.1%)
HP – 3 (7.5%)

Lake Elmo: Total Students – 39 (3.9%)
HP – 1 (2.5%)

Forest Lake/Wyoming/Stacy/Marine on St. Croix/Scandia: Total Students – 36 (3.9%)
HP – 1 (2.5%)

Wisconsin: Total Students – 34 (3.4%)
HP – 3 (7.5%)

Cottage Grove: Total Students – 33 (3.3%)
HP – 4 (10%)

North St. Paul: Total Students – 29 (2.9%)
HP – 2 (5%)

Mahtomedi/Grant/Dellwood: Total Students – 27 (2.7%)
HP – 1 (2.5%)

Afton: Total Students – 15 (1.5%)
HP – 3 (7.5%)

Dakota County: Total Students – 14 (1.4%)
HP – 1 (2.5%)

Other: Total Students – 13 (1.3%)
HP – 0 (0%)
(Andover/Champlin/Minneapolis/Blaine/Elk River/Lakeville/East Bethel)

Roseville: Total Students – 12 (1.2%)
HP – 1 (2.5%)

Lino Lakes: Total Students – 10 (1%)
HP – 0 (0%)
STATE CHAMPS!!! I want on that boat.

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Post by Neutron 14 » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:25 am

Hillhockey000 wrote:Lino Lakes: Total Students – 10 (1%)
HP – 0 (0%)
See packerboy! Our neighborhood program works!
The only soft spot I see is the one between my legs

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Post by packerboy » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:33 am

Neutron 14 wrote:
Hillhockey000 wrote:Lino Lakes: Total Students – 10 (1%)
HP – 0 (0%)
See packerboy! Our neighborhood program works!

It does seem to cut down the number of casualties but if you would starting buildng shelters, you could get those raw numbers down to zero.

You dont want to have a "fallout shelter" gap.

See this guy if you have questions:

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