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Re: schroeder
Division 3 are u kidding me right now. the kid is in 9th grade and still growing and improving. He was the talk of the state tourney last year as an 8TH grader. If he ends up D3 id be intensly surprised. <p></p><i></i>
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STA & JS
Schroder will play D1 barring injury or insult. It might not be WCHA D1, but it will be D1 somewhere. If someone got him to come play for their D3 team, I'd have to wonder what kind of payment plan he was on.<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls</p><i></i>
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Re: STA & JS
i didn't intend the D3 comment as an insult. How many kids even get to play D3? He's a "good" player but my point is that is all he has proven so far. There are a lot of "good" players out there, he has a long way to go. I don't remember him being the talk of the State Tornament because of any stellar play, i believe he drew so much attention because he was an 8th grader. I wish him well, but it is way to early to make him a top 10, Mr Hockey or D1 candidate. <p></p><i></i>
Re: STA & JS
inthefairway, you are out of your mind, how come on the elite league all star team they beat SSM prep, 2-1 and schroeder had both goals. How come I already have personal knowledge that he is getting invited to the NTDP camp this year, where he will be able to try and make NTDP is he pleases to do so. Explain that. Why aren't these other guys that are top 10 in your mind not scoring against 2 goals to beat ssm 2-1? And do not get me wrong, i know that 2 goals does not make a player, but watch him this year as he is twice as good as he was last year. Oh, and he wasn't the talk of the tourney because of stellar play, hmmmm. how bout 2g and 2a in the first game against virginia then sta shutout against warroad and then the assist on the loan goal in the 3-1 loss to Duluth Marshall. Also in the DM game schroeder had the flu and he still helped contribute to STAs only goal that game. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: STA & JS
like i said, he is a good player. that's how i explain that <p></p><i></i>
Re: Top 10 Players
kurt did you forget about canzanello or something <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Top 10 Players
KDavis20<br><br>JS scored two goals in the Elite playoffs against SSM and not the all star game.<br><br>JS is a very good player. He belonged in the Elite league and performed well but remember who he was playing with. That didn't hurt his stats. He is a very good playmaker, skater, shooter and that is why he would get a tryout for the Nat'l Dev Program. <br><br>I'm sure he'll continue to grow and that will help his stock. Not sure he is a top ten player right now though. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Top 10 Players
Here is the deal JS got the opportunity and took advantage of it. He exceeded the expectations of anyone. What we are forgetting is he got the opportunity and 99.9% of all 8th graders didn't get those same opportunities and not because they were not worthy but for other reasons. He is good but he is not top 10. <br><br>Do you realize that currently he has about 4 points in what 5 games. Nothing amazing. Corey Thorson who is a Sophomore At Armstrong is only 1 month older then JS and he has 12. Conner Rooney who is playing with JS is out scoring him if I am not mistaken. He might be a sophmore but they are both born in the year of 90. Danny Krysto at EP is a 9th grader and is putting up some great numbers. What about Danny Matson who is a Frreshman on Holy Angels varsity, very impressive considering the depth of the forwards on that team. There is also Patrick Borer who is playing both D and Forward for BSM both these players are only 9th graders.<br><br>There are other kids out there who can skate with JS lets find out who they are and then make your determination about how good he is. Maybe he is just a fluke. I still say that now that everyone is gunning for him his numbers will not be as impressive so I hope he has teammates to pick him up.<br><br>Also everyone seems to think he is still growing. No doubt he will get stronger but will he get that much bigger? Dad is just a little runt, Arrogant jerk but still a little runt.<br><br>Top ten <br>Players I don't think hairs can be split that fine. to many good ones to determine. <br><br>How come Graffunder from Totino Grace is never Mentioned. He was a top defensemen on a team that almost beat TJ Oshie and company. Some people like to call them Warroad. (just trying to start a fight) <p></p><i></i>
Re: Top 10 Players
shroeders good but not top 10 yet just like everyone else has been saying. he is a very talented, with excellent hands and great shot. hes not big enough yet. he can skate circles around some people but is not completely dominant yet. put him one on one with some of the guys mentioned in the top 10. most of these studs would knock him on his a**! i sure as hell know barribal would. the kids got great skill, but not quite big enough yet. if teams play the body on him this year he wont be effective. hes very shifty but if you can hit him he will get knocked off the puck. once he gets stronger and more solid on his skates we can start throwing his name in the top 10, but until then well just keep talking about a little freshmen with potential. <p></p><i></i>
Re: Top 10 Players
LookForTheWebbing dont even try and put pat borer in a sentance with JS or thorson. hes a solid player but he is no where near as good as those two. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... cks4567</A> at: 12/11/05 6:39 pm<br></i>
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Re: Top 10 Players
Best D in the State is a toss up with Fisher and Canz. They will both be in the hunt for MR hockey playing with canz my whole life id give him the upper hand. Fisher is a stud on the ice too though which makes it tough. Hands down to Forney. Hell be up there for sure. <p></p><i></i>
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Borer
Pucks4567. Do you comprehend what you read? I was making a point that a lot of kids will start to come out now that they are getting the same opportuniities as Schoeder. Patrick Borer is one of those kids getting the opportunity. He is playing varsity at BSM potentially playing both D and Forward. I don't think I compared him to either Thorson or Schroeder. Just stated a fact. I can tell you this he is one of the most technically correct skaters around and if he can develop the physical part of his game I wouldn't be shocked to see him pass up both Thorson and Schroeder simply because he is a better skater. <p></p><i></i>
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I think that # 14 from wbl is one of the top players in the state. I dont know his name but i heard someone one the ice calling him ice man??? Maybe TJ ice man well anywho he played really well agaisnt duluth east almost cashing in on one of his chances. I also taked with one of his neighbors said he has a net that he practices on. Good luck for the rest of the season to him<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
Schroeder
Might I remind everyone that Niskanen and company could not stop Schroeder last year during the STATE TOURNAMENT, oh and yea Niskanen was a first round draft pick. Also the Barriball comment, I am personal friends with Jay as we play shinny together and I talk to him on a pretty regular basis and have seen him play shinny and real hockey now in model camp for 2 years, elite league for one year, and AHA, this being the fourth year. Schroeder will be a much stronger player than Jay in his skates. He is thicker and for the age stronger than Jay. On the other hand Jay is more elusive that Schroeder is and has developed God given offensive ability that Schroeder has not yet developed, and may not for a while or possibly ever. However when people are naming these other young kids who might have more pts than Schroeder does right now, oooh big deal we are 5 games into the season. Also the reason that no other 8th graders were in elite league at all, especially not elite 1 is because they are not good enough yet. And back to how much Jordan will grow, he is currently 5'5'' and 155 lbs and his dad, who by the way is not a jerk, but rather a very nice guy is apporimately 5'10'' which is not huge, but not all that small. Look at Chris Drury he is only 5'10'' and before everyone freaks out I am not saying that Schroeder will be better than Drury, because only time will tell how good he will be. Also Jordan's mom is not that short either, I would say that she is approximately 5'7'' so we will see how much he will grow. Also size is not everything in hockey anymore. At every level the smaller players are starting to get a chance to prove what they can do. Also look at the Gophers for instance, Bostrom is listed at 5'9'' 173, Hirsch at 5'9'' 174, Kaufman at 5'9'' 164, Borgen at 5'11'' 192 which in no way, shape, or form is true, then their commitments such as Cade Fairchild who is listed at 5'10'' 160, Kevin Wehrs at 5'10'' 175, and Jay Barriball at 5'7'' 140! Schroeder is 3 and a half years younger than Jay, along with 2 inches shorter and he still outweighs Jay by 15lbs. In my personal opinion Jordan Schroeder is comparable to a Nate Gerbe like player, who is currently a freshmen at BC. When Gerbe was 16 he was 5'6'' and and 151lbs. Gerbe who is now 18 is still 5'6'' and weighs 160. I have met him and he is completely jacked. The reason Schroeder reminds me of Gerbe is because they are both extremely hard working players who are always trying to get open, back check, and skating their hardest. They both receive a lot of fast breaks and opportunities due to the way they play. The biggest differences that I can see is that Gerbe is more physical, do not get me wrong Schroeder does not shy away from contact, but Gerbe openly embraces it as he seems to enjoy mixing it up with anyone of any size, as was seen last year when he was on NTDP's U-18 team and he engaged in multiple scuffles with Gohper players including Tallackson during their game. I have seen him play out at BC twice so far this year and he is the same way. Whereas I believe Schroeder has slightly better offensive skills than Gerbe, such as hands and natural scoring ability. Gerbe currently has 6g and 4a for 10pts in 14 games at BC. He was also selected 145 overall by the Buffalo Sabres in last years draft. Gerbe also was just selected to play for team USA at the World Juniors this month. Gerbe also played in the USHL at 15, he was the youngest player in the league and played 25 games for the River City Lancers. And in my opinion Schroeder will make NTDP next year, and if he decides to go that will help him out drastically in all areas of his game, especially strength, speed, and smart play. This is what Nate Gerbe said was the best part of NTDP, "The working out, it gets you ready for the next level." And once again I am not saying that Schroeder will be as good as Gerbe is, but I believe that he does have the potential to possibly be as good with hard work, determination, and motivation that he already has, and in my opinion will develop even more in these areas if he makes NTDP and decides to attend. I do agree that Schroeder is top 10 in at least the metro area right now as an all around player. He back checks, he tries his hardest always, amazing at taking face-offs, natural goal scorer, great playmaker, great penalty killer, and all around player in every aspect. And for all those people who do not even think that Schroeder is good other than the fact that he is a freshmen, I think that you are out of your mind, and you should watch him for more than one game and look at more than just his points, because he is continually being shadowed, but he still makes plays happen and is a very productive player when he is on the ice. I am excited to see how he develops over the next couple of years.<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... Davis20</A> at: 12/12/05 1:59 pm<br></i>
Re: Schroeder
<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"I am excited to see how he develops over the next couple of years." KDavis20</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Really????<br><br>Suprised you could get your lips off his *&^* to add that! <p></p><i></i>
Re: Schroeder
Oh, I'm sorry that I am defending a great young player, who I personally know. Just because you are some plug who is unhappy that he would get undressed by a 15 year old one on one doesn't mean you have to rip him so much. You do not have to agree with me, I am just presenting my own argument. But say what you want, as it does not bother me, as Schroeder is having people talking whether or not Minnhock existed, as he is turning heads everywhere. So your stupid rebuttle to my argument makes the people who strongly disagree with me, such as you, look stupid. <p></p><i></i>
Re: Schroeder
Actually, I don't have anything bad to say about him.<br><br>I ripped you numbskull! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
Re: Schroeder
Oh, really how about in your other posts, the Jumboshrimp one? You said, "Sounds like he's better than Schroeder." Which was completely irrevelant, as they were talking about Shakopee, Amrbroz, and etc... So yes you have ripped him, but it's okay, you can contradict yourself, if you want it gives your posts more credibility I guess. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Schroeder
I agree with puck4567, Pat Borer is no where near good enough to be mentioned on here. Also, there is no way in hell he will be better than Schroeder or Thorson... ever. I am not saying he is not a very good player for his age, he is. But he is never going to be anywhere near those two nor will he ever be a top ten player in the state, or anywhere near it for that matter. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... uy4life</A> at: 12/12/05 2:52 pm<br></i>
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Re: Schroeder
Where did Borer play bantams-youth hockey? <p></p><i></i>
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Hill-Murray
Larson, Arrigoni, and Hoeffel....going to be hard to beat! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Schroeder
I am not sure where Borer played bantams, but I am pretty sure he played youth hockey at Armstrong. I think he could be playing bantams this year but obviously he is not doing that. And I might be wrong but the year where he would have been a first year bantam he played on Wisconsin Fire (and was 4th line or something). <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Hill-Murray
how many points does Hoeffel have so far? <p></p><i></i>
Re: Hill-Murray
2 Gs and 2 As = 4 pts in 4 games <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Hill-Murray
Artie Peckscamp-EV<br>9 points in 8 games...7 goals 2 assists <p></p><i></i>