Duluth Marshall Announces they are opting up to AA.

HawkeyPower · Post by **HawkeyPower** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:29 pm

Duluth Marshall announces they are opting up. Obviously they hope to draw better players by playing AA.

TheInsider · Post by **TheInsider** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:41 pm

HawkeyPower wrote:Duluth Marshall announces they are opting up. Obviously they hope to draw better players by playing AA.

They have a pretty good team right now... Good for them though, finally make the jump to play with the big boys. I think its about time for your Hawks to go AA.

rainier · Post by **rainier** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:41 pm

HawkeyPower wrote:Duluth Marshall announces they are opting up. Obviously they hope to draw better players by playing AA.

I thought this was coming-no reason for them to stay in A with Hermantown blocking their path to state. With the "easy" road to state now gone, being AA will have to drive their recruiting.

Wonder if this influences Hermantown...

almostashappy · Post by **almostashappy** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:46 pm

HawkeyPower wrote:Duluth Marshall announces they are opting up. Obviously they hope to draw better players by playing AA.

Which would bring the number of teams in 7AA next year to 10, same as 3AA.

Good timing, since it is a realignment year...convince Hermantown to opt up and they would have to give 7AA more of an "Up North" geography. Unless they did something stupid like shift Grand Rapids over to 8AA.

Froggy Richards · Post by **Froggy Richards** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:54 pm

rainier wrote:
HawkeyPower wrote:Duluth Marshall announces they are opting up. Obviously they hope to draw better players by playing AA.
I thought this was coming-no reason for them to stay in A with Hermantown blocking their path to state. With the "easy" road to state now gone, being AA will have to drive their recruiting.

Wonder if this influences Hermantown...

No telling if it will, but it should. Hermantown has no excuse. They play AA in Peewee and Bantam and then drop down for High School. This is total hypocrisy. If they want to develop their players at the Youth Level by playing at the top level of competition, why wouldn't this also apply to High School? They have the numbers in their Association and are pulling in most of the top players from neighboring Associations. When it was only Hermantown kids I understood their decision. But it's not anymore so it's time to play with the big boys instead of beating up on teams that play with the kids who live there.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:00 pm

HawkeyPower wrote:Duluth Marshall announces they are opting up. Obviously they hope to draw better players by playing AA.

That is great news! Lots of respect here for Duluth Marshall Hockey. Welcome to AA boys!!

nu2hockey · Post by **nu2hockey** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:01 pm

On the flip side, which team(s) will be moved to A . The league requires balance of A-AA.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:13 pm

nu2hockey wrote:On the flip side, which team(s) will be moved to A . The league requires balance of A-AA.

I believe it is currently
A 88
AA 67

I think the rule is top 64 plus opt ups play A. Those AA that have some valid reason can opt down (I think).

almostashappy · Post by **almostashappy** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:30 pm

elliott70 wrote:
nu2hockey wrote:On the flip side, which team(s) will be moved to A . The league requires balance of A-AA.
I believe it is currently
A 88
AA 67

I think the rule is top 64 plus opt ups play AA. Those AA that have some valid reason can opt down (I think).

fixed that for you.

nu2hockey · Post by **nu2hockey** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:45 pm

Playing up this yr would be
STA
HM
BSM
ROSEAU
HOLY FAMILY
HOLY ANGELS
???

maybe it is top 60 plus opt-ups

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:50 pm

nu2hockey wrote:Playing up this yr would be
STA
HM
BSM
ROSEAU
HOLY FAMILY
HOLY ANGELS
???

maybe it is top 60 plus opt-ups

Cloquet, Rapids.

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:54 pm

Classification for AA in both boys and girls hockey is top 64 plus opt ups, the rest are class A.

warriors41 · Post by **warriors41** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:57 pm

alcloseshaver wrote:
nu2hockey wrote:Playing up this yr would be
STA
HM
BSM
ROSEAU
HOLY FAMILY
HOLY ANGELS
???

maybe it is top 60 plus opt-ups
Cloquet, Rapids.

I believe Bemidji is an opt up as well.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:01 pm

nu2hockey wrote:Playing up this yr would be
STA
HM
BSM
ROSEAU
HOLY FAMILY
HOLY ANGELS
???

maybe it is top 60 plus opt-ups

Also, Grand Rapids, Cloquet, bemidji.

Should have read things first.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:02 pm

almostashappy wrote:
elliott70 wrote:
nu2hockey wrote:On the flip side, which team(s) will be moved to A . The league requires balance of A-AA.
I believe it is currently
A 88
AA 67

I think the rule is top 64 plus opt ups play AA. Those AA that have some valid reason can opt down (I think).
fixed that for you.

Thanks.

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:05 pm

almostashappy wrote:
HawkeyPower wrote:Duluth Marshall announces they are opting up. Obviously they hope to draw better players by playing AA.
Which would bring the number of teams in 7AA next year to 10, same as 3AA.

Good timing, since it is a realignment year...convince Hermantown to opt up and they would have to give 7AA more of an "Up North" geography. Unless they did something stupid like shift Grand Rapids over to 8AA.

Hopefully get Elk River and Andover out of 7AA, Elks have trouble winning it anyway.

goldy313 · Post by **goldy313** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:55 pm

Rochester Century, Bemidji, St. Thomas, Cloquet, Grand Rapids, Benilde, Holy Angels, Hill-Murray, and Roseau opted up.

New Ulm, LeSeuer, Minneapolis, Como Park, and Minnehaha petitioned down.
I think 1 more program went to A but I'm not sure who it would be.

Froggy Richards · Post by **Froggy Richards** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:03 pm

goldy313 wrote:Rochester Century, Bemidji, St. Thomas, Cloquet, Grand Rapids, Benilde, Holy Angels, Hill-Murray, and Roseau opted up.

New Ulm, LeSeuer, Minneapolis, Como Park, and Minnehaha petitioned down.
I think 1 more program went to A but I'm not sure who it would be.

Denfeld has AA enrollment but plays A. I believe that is because they factor in Free/Reduced lunch kids.

Post by **karl(east)** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:09 pm

Froggy Richards wrote:
goldy313 wrote:Rochester Century, Bemidji, St. Thomas, Cloquet, Grand Rapids, Benilde, Holy Angels, Hill-Murray, and Roseau opted up.

New Ulm, LeSeuer, Minneapolis, Como Park, and Minnehaha petitioned down.
I think 1 more program went to A but I'm not sure who it would be.
Denfeld has AA enrollment but plays A. I believe that is because they factor in Free/Reduced lunch kids.

No, Denfeld doesn't have AA enrollment, even without free/reduced calculations. Not even close, really. The enrollment disparity between East and Denfeld is huge.

As for Marshall opting up, I applaud it. Welcome to the big leagues, boys. It's great for northern hockey. Whether it will help them draw more quality players, it's hard to say; a lot goes into that. This year would definitely seem to be their short-term peak.

HockeyBum · Post by **HockeyBum** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:19 pm

Good for Marshall, as a past parent I would expect nothing less from the na Sayers wanting Hermantown to move up. People move in to haha but we have different guidelines than private school. Make it equal and see if they can play AA. NOT!

As a long time mn hockey player lets go back to one tourney where small town pride making state tourney really meant something.

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:29 pm

Article I read says that the AA opt up is 4 year commitment? I thought it was 2 years in conjunction with enrollment reclassification. Anyone know this rule?

Post by **karl(east)** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:48 pm

alcloseshaver wrote:Article I read says that the AA opt up is 4 year commitment? I thought it was 2 years in conjunction with enrollment reclassification. Anyone know this rule?

They changed it to a 4-year commitment somewhat recently. Not sure why. (Maybe related to other sports?) It does move in conjunction with reclassification.

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:52 pm

karl(east) wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:Article I read says that the AA opt up is 4 year commitment? I thought it was 2 years in conjunction with enrollment reclassification. Anyone know this rule?
They changed it to a 4-year commitment somewhat recently. Not sure why. (Maybe related to other sports?) It does move in conjunction with reclassification.

So you can choose to opt up every 2 years and it is a 4 year commitment. Thanks.

goldy313 · Post by **goldy313** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:57 pm

The MSHSL lists enrollments as adjusted for free/reduced lunch rates. For example the MSHSL lists Highland Park with an enrollment of 1009, the St. Paul school district lists Highland Park with an enrollment of 1196.

green4 · Post by **green4** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:19 pm

No doubt this will make sections even more exciting. Move ER and/or Andover to 5AA and that section could be a real tough one, and then with Marshal in 7AA you still have multiple good teams and I can only imagine how packed the section finals will be. Very exciting

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