EGF 2 or 3Nuts&Bolts wrote:Just for fun where would Warroad and EGF be seeded right now if they were playing AA?
Warroad 4 or 5
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Rogers, Chaska, New Prague, Northfield and Waconia are all growing, but ST. Louis Park and Spring Lake Park have been pretty constant in population size since the early 90's and Mahtomedi since the early 2000's. With not much land in these cities left to develop it seems unlikely that they could grow enough to hop up to AA. St. Louis Park recently just got their own youth program back as they use to be with Minneapolis. As of late though they haven't had a ton of people trying out for hockey.goldy313 wrote:If you look at the schools around +/- 100 kids from AA enrollment cutoff of 1251:elliott70 wrote:Elk River is not in 8AA.
8 AA is about Moorhead, Roseau and some one else thrown in.
This year it is Bemidji.
Sometime in the future I would think Aus would have Brainerd in the mix.
Forecasting an Elk River move to 8AA is not to likely.
More likely Thief River Falls moving up as the city is doing very well economically and as housing is added the population will grow. The hockey will get better based off an already good youth program.
River Lakes and Monticello will get stronger as their youth programs grow and will have a three year group of talent at some point and put together a run.
St. Cloud Tech should put together a team, but I have been thinking that for years.
Buffalo will end up in another section if/when TRF or Warroad move up or Alex.
*Rogers, Chaska, Northfield, New Prague, Mahtomedi, Spring Lake Park, St. Thomas, St. Louis Park, and Waconia are all growing.
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elliott70 wrote:EGF 2 or 3Nuts&Bolts wrote:Just for fun where would Warroad and EGF be seeded right now if they were playing AA?
Warroad 4 or 5
Vapor,Vapor wrote:elliott70 wrote:EGF 2 or 3Nuts&Bolts wrote:Just for fun where would Warroad and EGF be seeded right now if they were playing AA?
Warroad 4 or 5
Elliott70, do you actually WATCH any of these teams ? I'm guessing not when posting this kind of garbage. Look at Karl's top AA teams and try figure where Warroad would fit in the top 5. WOW !
Okay, I'll give you that, since they are,playing in EGF anything is possible.TTpuckster wrote:I know. That's why I said would.elliott70 wrote:Yes, but we are not talking single 'A'.TTpuckster wrote:In about 2 to 3 weeks EGF would be 1
In Jan. When EGF pummels Brrrrrrrrmidgi. Then numbero uno
Wrong! The water's fine.....elliott70 wrote:Okay, I'll give you that, since they are,playing in EGF anything is possible.TTpuckster wrote:I know. That's why I said would.elliott70 wrote: Yes, but we are not talking single 'A'.
In Jan. When EGF pummels Brrrrrrrrmidgi. Then numbero uno
You know with the refs, the sand on the locker room floor, the oversized net for egf to shoot at for 2 periods, the bad water in the locker room. You know all the tricks egf has stole from Warroad over the years.
Nice job.curtiscurve wrote:Here is my attempt to look into the future and predict where everyone will be seeded and what each teams record will be at the end of the regular season. I'll throw in a little analysis on each team as well.
1. Bemidji - 14-2-1 (6-0 in the section); Predicted finish 21-3-1 (9-0 in the section). Bemidji is having one of the best years in its programs history. I see them finishing out strong and completing an undefeated section record. Even if they drop the Roseau game, I still do not see any way they do not get the top seed. Could be the first non Moorhead/Roseau team to represent 8AA since Alexandria did so in 1996.
2. Moorhead - 9-6-2 (3-2); Predicted finish 14-9-2 (6-2). The Spuds are kind of tough to figure out. They have had some impressive showings (Wayzata, Tonka, BSM) and some head scratchers (10-1 loss to North, and losses to Prior Lake and Alexandria). Either way, this team can skate with anyone (except for North apparently) and will be tough to beat for a 3rd time if they meet up with Bemidji in the finals.
3. Roseau - 8-7 (1-3); Predicted finish 13-12 (2-5). This has been a frustrating year for the Rams (aside from beating Warroad in their first meeting). With the Tech loss, they could even be at risk of dropping to the 4 seed, but I see them getting the benefit of the doubt when voting time comes. I only see them wining one more section game (Brainerd), but finishing their last 10 games 5-5. This should be enough to earn them the 3 seed, but I do not think they have a real shot at pulling out an upset over Moorhead in the semi-finals.
4. Buffalo - 9-7 (2-1); Predicted finish 15-10 (3-1). The Bison have had a fairly successful year thus far. They should finish strong as their remaining schedule looks pretty smooth with 6 very winnable games and could even pick up a 7th if they can split with a very good St. Michael team. Buffalo is a good team, but I do not think they will give Bemidji a great challenge.
5. Brainerd - 5-9-1 (2-4): Predicted finish 8-16-1 (4-7). The first year for Coach Aus has been a struggle. The good news here is the future is bright with Dave at the helm. As for this year, they will continue to struggle going 3-7 down the stretch. I think there is a big gap between seeds 4 & 5 so I do not think they will pose much of a threat to Buffalo. In 2 years I think we could see Brainerd have a similar season to the one Bemidji is having now.
6. St. Cloud Tech - 4-10-1 (3-2-1); Predicted finish 7-16-1 (4-4-1). With a win over Roseau and an expected win over River Lakes to go along with the River Lakes tie, Tech will be the 6th seed and take on the team they beat earlier in the year (Roseau) in the quarter finals. Even though that game was fluky, it will still provide Tech with confidence enough to believe they can pull the upset.
7. River Lakes - 8-6-2 (1-0-1); Predicted finish 11-12-2 (2-3-1). They could switch spots with Tech if they can beat them at home on Feb. 3rd. They played an undefeated Alexandria team tough last night, so unlike previous years, the Stars will not be a push over. Hopefully this trend continues and River Lakes becomes a formidable opponent for years to come.
8. Monticello/Annandale/Maple Lake - 5-11 (1-5); Predicted finish 8-16 (1-6). Disappointing year for MAML thus far. They have one remaining section game, but win or lose, I believe they will stay in the 8 spot. They did beat a very good St. Michael team early this year, so they know they can pull off an upset, but I do not think they will have enough to stay with Bemidji in the quarters.
9. Becker/Big Lake - 4-13 (0-2); Predicted finish 8-16 (0-3); Tough spot for this program to be in. Playing their home games in Princeton really makes it tough to build a program. Have to give the kids and coaches credit for continuing to work hard and battling each game.
This should be an exciting section to watch. Will this be Bemidji's year?
EGF is just a half step behind Hermantown.northwoods oldtimer wrote:Elliot any concerns coming out of the 4 to 1 loss against EGF? Have not followed the teams this season to see what they have. Only saw bemidji one time. Is EGF tops of 8a?
Bemidji has produced a lot of good goaltenders over the last 20 year.WestMetro wrote:Elliott
My only reference point is having seen Moorhead play in the Metro, and Bemidji has beaten them twice so they must be a force to reckon with.
I may have to change my likely Section 8 tourney participant. I had been giving Moorhead the edge because of Dittmer, but Tharaldson is racking up impressive stats and has won most of his big games.
Question: Bemidji must have quite a youth hockey goaltender program to be developing the likes of Tharaldson and Heifort all in the same class, before Gabe decided to go down to HF. Something special going on up there in youth goaltending development?
Should note that the backup Garret Attaberry is a solid goal tender also.WestMetro wrote:Elliott
My only reference point is having seen Moorhead play in the Metro, and Bemidji has beaten them twice so they must be a force to reckon with.
I may have to change my likely Section 8 tourney participant. I had been giving Moorhead the edge because of Dittmer, but Tharaldson is racking up impressive stats and has won most of his big games.
Question: Bemidji must have quite a youth hockey goaltender program to be developing the likes of Tharaldson and Heifort all in the same class, before Gabe decided to go down to HF. Something special going on up there in youth goaltending development?
Should also note that EGF was playing the back-up goalie last night and he looked pretty darn good. Escpecially in the 3rd.elliott70 wrote:Should note that the backup Garret Attaberry is a solid goal tender also.WestMetro wrote:Elliott
My only reference point is having seen Moorhead play in the Metro, and Bemidji has beaten them twice so they must be a force to reckon with.
I may have to change my likely Section 8 tourney participant. I had been giving Moorhead the edge because of Dittmer, but Tharaldson is racking up impressive stats and has won most of his big games.
Question: Bemidji must have quite a youth hockey goaltender program to be developing the likes of Tharaldson and Heifort all in the same class, before Gabe decided to go down to HF. Something special going on up there in youth goaltending development?
I heard the same thing.TTpuckster wrote:Should also note that EGF was playing the back-up goalie last night and he looked pretty darn good. Escpecially in the 3rd.elliott70 wrote:Should note that the backup Garret Attaberry is a solid goal tender also.WestMetro wrote:Elliott
My only reference point is having seen Moorhead play in the Metro, and Bemidji has beaten them twice so they must be a force to reckon with.
I may have to change my likely Section 8 tourney participant. I had been giving Moorhead the edge because of Dittmer, but Tharaldson is racking up impressive stats and has won most of his big games.
Question: Bemidji must have quite a youth hockey goaltender program to be developing the likes of Tharaldson and Heifort all in the same class, before Gabe decided to go down to HF. Something special going on up there in youth goaltending development?
Speaking of Goaltending in Bemidji.. They have a pretty nice goalie at #2. That kid would start for many teams I've seen play. Must be something in the water!WestMetro wrote:Elliott
My only reference point is having seen Moorhead play in the Metro, and Bemidji has beaten them twice so they must be a force to reckon with.
I may have to change my likely Section 8 tourney participant. I had been giving Moorhead the edge because of Dittmer, but Tharaldson is racking up impressive stats and has won most of his big games.
Question: Bemidji must have quite a youth hockey goaltender program to be developing the likes of Tharaldson and Heifort all in the same class, before Gabe decided to go down to HF. Something special going on up there in youth goaltending development?