Early Departures 2019-2020

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goldy313
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by goldy313 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:55 pm

There are lots of research showing how a student leaving high school a semester early to participate in spring practice shows more harm than good. Phillip Nelson may be the poster child of this in Minnesota high school football. When you get to hockey most of the “research” comes from USA hockey which is administratively biased against the MSHSL. And of course biased to their leagues.

As for Duluth East, one year is not a trend. Nor is two or even three. Playing I. St Paul in March is far better than playing a NH3HL, or for the most part in NAHL team.
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muckandgrinder65
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by muckandgrinder65 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:11 am

Technically this would be an Early Arrival...
Have a suspicion Gunderson of OMG will forgo his 2nd year of Bantams and play Varsity for the Crimson this upcoming season.

WestMetro
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by WestMetro » Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:49 pm

Hearing same . Blades until then. Quite a group
of Bantam eligibles opting for HS this year including Clark , Stramel , Gunderson .

The Exiled One
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by The Exiled One » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:17 am

WestMetro wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:49 pm
Hearing same . Blades until then. Quite a group
of Bantam eligibles opting for HS this year including Clark , Stramel , Gunderson .
Oliver Moore at TG

WestMetro
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by WestMetro » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:27 am

Good addition. Has had nice August BEL. Great speed.

High Heat
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by High Heat » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:17 pm

Garrett Pinoniemi sounds like he’s playing USHL this year. Tough loss for Holy Family.

WestMetro
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by WestMetro » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:46 pm

Hockey on Fire

Can you comment on Pino ?

(Ps , talked to your Mom and Dad at Beauty League last Monday in between games , great people! )

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by WestMetro » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:32 pm

A remarkable timing coincidence , although meaningless until something further develops

https://reddeerrebels.com/article/rebel ... underbirds

612hockeytown
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by 612hockeytown » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:07 am

WestMetro wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:32 pm
A remarkable timing coincidence , although meaningless until something further develops

https://reddeerrebels.com/article/rebel ... underbirds
Doesn't mean too much. Brandon Reller was with the Spokane Chiefs this past week. Hogg's stock (in the junior/major junior circuit) dropped a bit with his Hlinka play. The rights acquisition seems to contradict previous statement. However Red Deer has 2 decent 18 year old goalies including starter Ethan Anders. Backup Byron Fancy is no slouch either. Would be surprised to seeing any thing done now. After the season is anyone's guess.

If he is looking to raise his stock as a NHL goalie though, moving to juniors is 100% the right move. Major juniors is a whole different game though. No college hockey, etc. What's left to prove in high school? ** Note** He isn't draft eligible until 2021.

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by WestMetro » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:23 pm


612hockeytown
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by 612hockeytown » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:02 pm


Lol I guess it meant more than I thought 😬🥳😂

WestMetro
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by WestMetro » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:06 pm

612 , not often I get the jump on you. It’s all in the twitter feed....

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by WestMetro » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:07 pm

Hearing from reliable sources we can add Zach Michaelis to this list

612hockeytown
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by 612hockeytown » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:08 pm

MG early departures

Seniors - Connor Kelley and Ethan Haider

Juniors - Brock Faber and Brandon Reller

Sophomore - Justin Janicke

Healthy balance of 2 D / 2 F / 1 G

Am I missing anyone?

612hockeytown
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by 612hockeytown » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:09 pm

WestMetro wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:06 pm
612 , not often I get the jump on you. It’s all in the twitter feed....
All about the quality and reliability of the post. Timing is worthless if it’s inaccurate :)

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by WestMetro » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:16 pm

Can eliminate this possible early depart for now ...

Hearing from reliable sources- as of present , Oberle planning before and after only , with Magicians . Looking forward to seeing him back in Pio uni, and may be persuaded by mid Dec to move them into my top 10

WestMetro
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by WestMetro » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:19 pm

Confirming early posts that Humphrey will join
Michaelis as Elk early depart

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by WestMetro » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:20 pm

Looking forward to hearing more from our friends in Victoria , to add clarity to situations there

northwoods oldtimer
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by northwoods oldtimer » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:23 pm

WestMetro wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:19 pm
Confirming early posts that Humphrey will join
Michaelis as Elk early depart
God dang #-o

kniven
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by kniven » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:50 pm

northwoods oldtimer wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:23 pm
WestMetro wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:19 pm
Confirming early posts that Humphrey will join
Michaelis as Elk early depart
That’s too bad. What kind of team the Elks going to have this year? 5-8 seed or possible 3/4 seed. How was the kids leaving early numbers before the latest coach took over.

612hockeytown
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by 612hockeytown » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:09 pm

goldy313 wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:55 pm
There are lots of research showing how a student leaving high school a semester early to participate in spring practice shows more harm than good. Phillip Nelson may be the poster child of this in Minnesota high school football. When you get to hockey most of the “research” comes from USA hockey which is administratively biased against the MSHSL. And of course biased to their leagues.

As for Duluth East, one year is not a trend. Nor is two or even three. Playing I. St Paul in March is far better than playing a NH3HL, or for the most part in NAHL team.
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Apples and oranges.

Don’t compare NA3 and the NAHL. The latter is a pay for play league. 1 in 500 will play D1 hockey. In the NAHL - it’s common to see 3-6 or more D1 commits and the rest play D3 hockey. As a Magicians fan - they consistently have 6-10 D1 kids every year. Last 3 goalies were nhl draft picks. There is no fees to play in the NAHL. On certain teams - less revenue squads - players pay $200 month billet fees.

Compare it to the BCHL. THE AJHL and SJHL are also similar.

The USHL is the only league on its own where players don’t pay anything for ANYTHING. All gear is included. Billet fees paid by team. A lot more revenue than the NAHL and anywhere else.

I saw a ton of NHL scouts / and D1 guys at Magician games this year. Only a few at Blaine games presumably to only see Brodzinski.

My two cents

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by Slap Shot » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:36 am

It's starting to feel more and more that HS hockey will continue to lose more and more talent to early departures that I had hoped for the past several seasons. While it's still hanging on to most - and I could be wrong - but it feels like there's been an acceleration of players leaving early although I don't have any data to back it up. Maybe I'm just more aware of it since I started visiting here and it's a false perception. Hopefully.

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by InThePipes » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:58 am

Slap Shot wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:36 am
It's starting to feel more and more that HS hockey will continue to lose more and more talent to early departures that I had hoped for the past several seasons. While it's still hanging on to most - and I could be wrong - but it feels like there's been an acceleration of players leaving early although I don't have any data to back it up. Maybe I'm just more aware of it since I started visiting here and it's a false perception. Hopefully.
I agree that it feels that way, but when looking back at the lists posted here over the last 4-5 years there has fairly consistently been about 12-13 early departures every year with the number being greater than that if you look back 5+ years ago (assuming the lists are accurate). Based on what's already posted for this year and the other recently confirmed early departures it appears we're headed to about that 12-13 level again, but maybe a few more based on those who there is still some uncertainty about?

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by Edinahopkins » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:40 am

If you look just at the list and not the comments, last years list is off because Jack Jensen and Aaron Hulglen both came back and played for there senior season last year and the list has them as departed Early , Idk about previous lists I have not looked at them recently.

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by O-townClown » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:45 pm

Slap Shot wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:36 am
It's starting to feel more and more that HS hockey will continue to lose more and more talent to early departures that I had hoped for the past several seasons. While it's still hanging on to most - and I could be wrong - but it feels like there's been an acceleration of players leaving early although I don't have any data to back it up. Maybe I'm just more aware of it since I started visiting here and it's a false perception. Hopefully.
The sky was falling in early 2000s and here we are, all these years later, and it never happened. As pointed out, there hasn't been a mass exodus. So yes, I think you have a false perception.
Be kind. Rewind.

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