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GIRLS HS HOCKEY COMPUTER RATINGS: DEC 18, 2022

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After a snowy and icy week of winter weather, girls hockey around the region got some games in, but many postponements are to be rescheduled.

The top Minnesota team is Warroad and the usual suspects follow. Minnesota girls round out the top 34 spots.
The top North Dakota Team is Fargo Davies by about 1 goals worth over Mandan.
The top Wisconsin Team is Superior with the Hayward Co-Op not far behind.
The top South Dakota Team(s) are Brookings and Aberdeen. They both are rated approximately the same as the TwoRiver/St.Paul Co-op team from Minnesota.

Enjoy the season
- Doc

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DATE:  DEC 18, 2022

GIRLS HS COMPUTER RATINGS (UPPER MIDWEST REGION; MN,WI,ND,SD)
provided by SPORTSOFT(TM) using LSQRANK(TM) algorithms

LSQRANK  State Tier Score                                       Team    LG     SEC CLS  GP  (WW-LL-TT)
-------  ----- ---- ---------    -----------------------------------    -----  --- ---  --  ----------   
     1   MN     HS  1021.8554                                Warroad     MSHSL   8  A   11  (10- 1- 0) 
     2   MN     HS  1021.6072                                Andover     MSHSL   7 AA    9  ( 8- 1- 0) 
     3   MN     HS  1021.5343                             Minnetonka     MSHSL   2 AA   10  ( 9- 1- 0) 
     4   MN     HS  1020.5581                                  Edina     MSHSL   6 AA    8  ( 6- 2- 0) 
     5   MN     HS  1020.5555                            Hill-Murray     MSHSL   4 AA    9  ( 7- 2- 0) 
     6   MN     HS  1020.1414                          GentryAcademy     MSHSL   4 AA    9  ( 8- 1- 0) 
     7   MN     HS  1019.7737                               Moorhead     MSHSL   8 AA    8  ( 6- 2- 0) 
     8   MN     HS  1019.2688                             MapleGrove     MSHSL   5 AA    9  ( 8- 1- 0) 
     9   MN     HS  1018.9159                             HolyFamily     MSHSL   2 AA   10  ( 8- 2- 0) 
    10   MN     HS  1018.8859                     Proctor/Hermantown     MSHSL   7  A    9  ( 5- 2- 2) 
    11   MN     HS  1018.3427                             Stillwater     MSHSL   4 AA   11  ( 8- 3- 0) 
    12   MN     HS  1018.0079                                  Blake     MSHSL   6 AA   11  ( 7- 4- 0) 
    13   MN     HS  1017.7366                  Benilde-St.Margaret's     MSHSL   6 AA    8  ( 5- 2- 1) 
    14   MN     HS  1017.5234              Centennial/SpringLakePark     MSHSL   5 AA   11  ( 8- 2- 1) 
    15   MN     HS  1017.2949                                  Orono     MSHSL   5  A   11  ( 7- 2- 2) 
    16   MN     HS  1017.0200                      NorthWrightCounty     MSHSL   5 AA    5  ( 3- 2- 0) 
    17   MN     HS  1016.9464                             HolyAngels     MSHSL   5  A    9  ( 8- 1- 0) 
    18   MN     HS  1016.8775                                 Rogers     MSHSL   5 AA    9  ( 4- 4- 1) 
    19   MN     HS  1016.8164                ChamplinPark/CoonRapids     MSHSL   5 AA   11  ( 7- 4- 0) 
    20   MN     HS  1016.5211                      MoundWestonka/SWC     MSHSL   5  A   11  ( 7- 4- 0) 
    21   MN     HS  1016.4805                         LakevilleNorth     MSHSL   1 AA   11  ( 9- 2- 0) 
    22   MN     HS  1016.3812                     ElkRiver/Zimmerman     MSHSL   7 AA   10  ( 4- 6- 0) 
    23   MN     HS  1016.3537                              EastRidge     MSHSL   4 AA    9  ( 7- 2- 0) 
    24   MN     HS  1016.1331                                 Simley     MSHSL   4  A   11  ( 7- 3- 1) 
    25   MN     HS  1016.0835                   GrandRapids-Greenway     MSHSL   7 AA   10  ( 6- 4- 0) 
    26   MN     HS  1015.8296                            EdenPrairie     MSHSL   2 AA    9  ( 3- 6- 0) 
    27   MN     HS  1015.8202                                 Roseau     MSHSL   8 AA   11  ( 7- 4- 0) 
    28   MN     HS  1015.6570                         LakevilleSouth     MSHSL   1 AA    8  ( 7- 1- 0) 
    29   MN     HS  1015.6137                           SouthSt.Paul     MSHSL   4  A   10  ( 8- 2- 0) 
    30   MN     HS  1015.3127                                 Blaine     MSHSL   7 AA   10  ( 6- 3- 1) 
    31   MN     HS  1015.3002                               Woodbury     MSHSL   4 AA   11  ( 9- 2- 0) 
    32   MN     HS  1015.2279                    Roseville/Mahtomedi     MSHSL   4 AA   12  ( 7- 5- 0) 
    33   MN     HS  1015.1292                                Bemidji     MSHSL   8 AA   10  ( 9- 1- 0) 
    34   MN     HS  1014.9642                               Owatonna     MSHSL   1 AA    7  ( 5- 2- 0)
	 
    35   ND     HS  1014.9547                            FargoDavies    NDHSHL   2  A    4  ( 4- 0- 0)
	 
    36   MN     HS  1014.9383                         DuluthMarshall     MSHSL   7  A    8  ( 3- 4- 1) 
    37   MN     HS  1014.9013                             Alexandria     MSHSL   8 AA   10  ( 5- 4- 1) 
    38   MN     HS  1014.7194                   Brainerd/LittleFalls     MSHSL   8 AA   11  ( 6- 4- 1) 
    39   MN     HS  1014.6633                            AppleValley     MSHSL   3 AA    9  ( 5- 4- 0) 
    40   MN     HS  1014.6580                             Northfield     MSHSL   1 AA   10  ( 7- 3- 0) 
    41   MN     HS  1014.6039                       Osseo/ParkCenter     MSHSL   5 AA   12  ( 5- 6- 1) 
    42   MN     HS  1014.4299                              PriorLake     MSHSL   2 AA   12  ( 7- 4- 1) 
    43   MN     HS  1014.3950                            DodgeCounty     MSHSL   1 AA   11  (10- 1- 0) 
    44   MN     HS  1014.3602                             Farmington     MSHSL   1 AA    9  ( 3- 6- 0) 
    45   MN     HS  1014.2076                              Crookston     MSHSL   8  A   10  ( 8- 1- 1) 
    46   MN     HS  1014.0899                     ParkofCottageGrove     MSHSL   3 AA   11  ( 6- 5- 0) 
    47   MN     HS  1014.0661                              Rosemount     MSHSL   3 AA   11  ( 5- 6- 0) 
    48   MN     HS  1014.0057                            MankatoEast     MSHSL   2  A   10  ( 8- 2- 0) 
    49   MN     HS  1013.9626                                Wayzata     MSHSL   6 AA    9  ( 2- 7- 0) 
    50   MN     HS  1013.9255                               Shakopee     MSHSL   2 AA   10  ( 5- 5- 0)
	 
    51   ND     HS  1013.8855                                 Mandan    NDHSHL   1  A    5  ( 4- 1- 0)
	 
    52   MN     HS  1013.8707                            FergusFalls     MSHSL   6  A   12  ( 8- 4- 0) 
    53   MN     HS  1013.7673                                 Duluth     MSHSL   7 AA    9  ( 5- 2- 2) 
    54   MN     HS  1013.6599                    NorthSt.Paul/Tartan     MSHSL   4 AA   10  ( 5- 5- 0) 
    55   MN     HS  1013.5283                      Cretin-DerhamHall     MSHSL   3 AA   10  ( 2- 8- 0) 
    56   MN     HS  1013.2956                          WhiteBearLake     MSHSL   4 AA   10  ( 2- 8- 0) 
    57   MN     HS  1013.2680                                  Breck     MSHSL   5  A    9  ( 3- 6- 0)
	 
    58   ND     HS  1013.2535                              MinotHigh    NDHSHL   1  A    5  ( 3- 1- 1)
	 
    59   MN     HS  1013.2434                                Luverne     MSHSL   3  A    9  ( 8- 1- 0) 
    60   MN     HS  1013.2397                    MoundsView/Irondale     MSHSL   5 AA   11  ( 3- 7- 1) 
    61   MN     HS  1013.1615                            Metro-South     MSHSL   3 AA   11  ( 6- 5- 0)
	 
    62   WI     HS  1013.1447                           Superior(WI)      WIAA   1  A    6  ( 5- 1- 0)
	 
    63   MN     HS  1013.1252                               Eastview     MSHSL   3 AA   11  ( 1-10- 0) 
    64   MN     HS  1013.1018                             ForestLake     MSHSL   7 AA   10  ( 2- 8- 0) 
    65   MN     HS  1012.9748                       Armstrong/Cooper     MSHSL   6 AA   10  ( 2- 8- 0)
	 
    66   ND     HS  1012.9600                        WestFargoUnited    NDHSHL   2  A    5  ( 3- 2- 0) 
    67   WI     HS  1012.8272                           HaywardCo-Op      WIAA   1  A    7  ( 6- 1- 0)
	 
    68   MN     HS  1012.5525                             RiverLakes     MSHSL   6  A    8  ( 4- 4- 0) 
    69   MN     HS  1012.5033                            Minneapolis     MSHSL   5  A   13  ( 5- 8- 0) 
    70   MN     HS  1012.4997                               St.Cloud     MSHSL   8 AA    9  ( 3- 6- 0)
	 
    71   ND     HS  1012.4531                       FargoNorth/South    NDHSHL   2  A    4  ( 2- 1- 1)
	 
    72   MN     HS  1012.3832                               Hastings     MSHSL   3 AA   13  ( 6- 7- 0) 
    73   MN     HS  1012.2622                          MooseLakeArea     MSHSL   7  A    8  ( 7- 1- 0) 
    74   MN     HS  1012.2526                                  Anoka     MSHSL   7 AA    9  ( 1- 7- 1) 
    75   MN     HS  1012.1883                                Buffalo     MSHSL   8 AA   10  ( 1- 9- 0)
	 
    76   ND     HS  1012.0607                        BismarckCentury    NDHSHL   1  A    4  ( 0- 3- 1)
	 
    77   MN     HS  1011.9693                                  Eagan     MSHSL   3 AA   10  ( 0- 9- 1) 
    78   ND     HS  1011.9613                             GrandForks    NDHSHL   2  A    6  ( 4- 1- 1) 
	
    79   MN     HS  1011.8082                              AlbertLea     MSHSL   1  A   12  ( 7- 5- 0) 
    80   MN     HS  1011.7902                   Cloquet-Esko-Carlton     MSHSL   7  A   10  ( 1- 7- 2) 
    81   MN     HS  1011.7636                   BloomingtonJefferson     MSHSL   2 AA   11  ( 5- 6- 0)
	 
    82   WI     HS  1011.7010               CentralWisconsin(Wausau)      WIAA   1  A    8  ( 6- 2- 0) 
	
    83   MN     HS  1011.5334                        Delano/Rockford     MSHSL   5  A   10  ( 7- 3- 0) 
    84   MN     HS  1011.4880                                Willmar     MSHSL   6  A    9  ( 5- 4- 0) 
    85   MN     HS  1011.3473                      Chaska/Chanhassen     MSHSL   2 AA   10  ( 2- 8- 0) 
    86   MN     HS  1011.2406               Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato     MSHSL   2  A   10  ( 5- 5- 0)
	 
    87   ND     HS  1011.0517                              Williston    NDHSHL   1  A    5  ( 4- 1- 0) 
    88   MN     HS  1011.0361                     Sartell/SaukRapids     MSHSL   8 AA   11  ( 2- 8- 1) 
    89   WI     HS  1010.9329                           GreenBayArea      WIAA   3  A    8  ( 7- 1- 0) 
	
    90   MN     HS  1010.8122                                 NewUlm     MSHSL   3  A   10  ( 5- 5- 0) 
    91   MN     HS  1010.8086                           ChisagoLakes     MSHSL   4  A    8  ( 4- 4- 0)
	 
    92   WI     HS  1010.7368                             Hudson(WI)      WIAA   2  A    4  ( 2- 2- 0) 
    93   MN     HS  1010.6003                           Hopkins/Park     MSHSL   6 AA   12  ( 6- 6- 0) 
    94   ND     HS  1010.5815                              Jamestown    NDHSHL   1  A    5  ( 2- 3- 0) 
    95   MN     HS  1010.5561                               Marshall     MSHSL   3  A    8  ( 2- 6- 0) 
    96   WI     HS  1010.4195            UniversitySchool(Milwaukee)      WIAA   3  A    9  ( 6- 3- 0) 
    97   ND     HS  1010.4031                    BismarckHigh/Legacy    NDHSHL   1  A    3  ( 0- 3- 0) 
    98   WI     HS  1010.2359                    Warbirds(FondduLac)      WIAA   3  A    8  ( 6- 2- 0) 
    99   MN     HS  1010.1253                              NewPrague     MSHSL   2 AA    9  ( 4- 5- 0) 
   100   WI     HS  1010.0952               FoxCitiesStars(Appleton)      WIAA   3  A    7  ( 6- 1- 0) 
   101   MN     HS  1009.9065                             Hutchinson     MSHSL   2  A    9  ( 4- 5- 0) 
   102   WI     HS  1009.8983                ChippewaFalls/Menomonie      WIAA   2  A    5  ( 2- 3- 0) 
   103   MN     HS  1009.7318                        ThiefRiverFalls     MSHSL   8  A   13  ( 3-10- 0) 
   104   ND     HS  1009.7092                             DevilsLake    NDHSHL   2  A    5  ( 1- 4- 0) 
   105   MN     HS  1009.7002                           PineCityArea     MSHSL   5  A    9  ( 5- 4- 0) 
   106   MN     HS  1009.5808                       Hibbing/Chisholm     MSHSL   7  A   10  ( 4- 6- 0) 
   107   MN     HS  1009.4743                         EastGrandForks     MSHSL   8  A    8  ( 3- 5- 0) 
   108   WI     HS  1009.3932                     MetroLynx(Madison)      WIAA   4  A    7  ( 5- 2- 0) 
   109   WI     HS  1009.2474             St.CroixValley(RiverFalls)      WIAA   2  A    9  ( 4- 4- 1) 
   110   MN     HS  1009.2166                           NorthernTier     MSHSL   7 AA    9  ( 1- 8- 0) 
   111   MN     HS  1009.0362                                Waconia     MSHSL   2  A    9  ( 2- 7- 0) 
   112   WI     HS  1009.0239                 CouleeRegion(LaCrosse)      WIAA   2  A    8  ( 7- 1- 0) 
   113   MN     HS  1008.9107                      TwoRivers/St.Paul     MSHSL   4  A    9  ( 3- 6- 0) 
   114   WI     HS  1008.8941                        BlackRiverFalls      WIAA   2  A    7  ( 4- 3- 0) 
   115   WI     HS  1008.8561            LakeshoreLightning(Ozaukee)      WIAA   3  A    7  ( 5- 2- 0) 
   
   116   SD     HS  1008.7404                              Brookings    SDHSHL   1  A    6  ( 5- 1- 0) 
   117   SD     HS  1008.5815                               Aberdeen    SDHSHL   1  A    7  ( 6- 1- 0) 
   
   118   MN     HS  1008.5378                              RockRidge     MSHSL   7  A   13  ( 6- 7- 0) 
   119   WI     HS  1008.5316                          EauClaireArea      WIAA   2  A    9  ( 3- 6- 0) 
   120   MN     HS  1008.2470                             NorthShore     MSHSL   7  A    7  ( 1- 5- 1) 
   121   MN     HS  1007.9788                         MinnesotaRiver     MSHSL   2  A   10  ( 5- 5- 0) 
   122   MN     HS  1007.9665                  Breckenridge-Wahpeton     MSHSL   6  A    6  ( 3- 3- 0) 
   123   SD     HS  1007.7494                             SiouxFalls    SDHSHL   1  A    6  ( 5- 1- 0) 
   124   WI     HS  1007.5170                    Arrowhead(Hartland)      WIAA   3  A    9  ( 6- 3- 0) 
   125   ND     HS  1007.3938                              Dickinson    NDHSHL   1  A    5  ( 0- 5- 0) 
   126   MN     HS  1006.9351                          NorthernLakes     MSHSL   6  A    7  ( 1- 6- 0) 
   127   WI     HS  1006.2022                                Medford      WIAA   1  A    3  ( 1- 2- 0) 
   128   ND     HS  1006.0517                           Bottineau19U    NDHSHL   0  A    1  ( 0- 1- 0) 
   129   ON     HS  1005.9662                   FortFrances(Ontario)    MBHSAA   0 XX    3  ( 1- 2- 0) 
   130   WI     HS  1005.9475            CapitolCityCougars(Madison)      WIAA   4  A   11  ( 2- 9- 0) 
   131   WI     HS  1005.8949                 RockCounty(Janesville)      WIAA   4  A    7  ( 5- 2- 0) 
   132   WI     HS  1005.8575             WesternWisconsin(Somerset)      WIAA   2  A    5  ( 0- 5- 0) 
   133   MN     HS  1005.8161                       RochesterCentury     MSHSL   1 AA   12  ( 5- 6- 1) 
   134   MN     HS  1005.6911                                 Windom     MSHSL   3  A    8  ( 3- 5- 0) 
   135   MN     HS  1005.6136                          RochesterMayo     MSHSL   1 AA    9  ( 3- 6- 0) 
   136   WI     HS  1005.6131                             Brookfield      WIAA   3  A    8  ( 1- 7- 0) 
   137   MN     HS  1005.5358                                 Winona     MSHSL   1  A   11  ( 3- 8- 0) 
   138   MN     HS  1005.1252                             Visitation     MSHSL   4  A   10  ( 3- 7- 0) 
   139   WI     HS  1005.0720                                Viroqua      WIAA   4  A    5  ( 2- 3- 0) 
   140   SD     HS  1005.0060                               Mitchell    SDHSHL   1  A    5  ( 3- 2- 0) 
   141   MN     HS  1004.9263                                 Waseca     MSHSL   1  A    8  ( 4- 4- 0) 
   142   WI     HS  1004.8661               BadgerLightning(Baraboo)      WIAA   4  A    8  ( 4- 4- 0) 
   143   MN     HS  1004.8191                              Princeton     MSHSL   7 AA    6  ( 1- 5- 0) 
   144   WI     HS  1004.3805                              BeaverDam      WIAA   4  A    2  ( 0- 2- 0) 
   145   WI     HS  1004.0114     WisconsinValleyUnion(StevensPoint)      WIAA   1  A    7  ( 1- 6- 0) 
   146   SD     HS  1003.9745                               Rushmore    SDHSHL   1  A    5  ( 2- 2- 1) 
   147   MN     HS  1003.6676                               Fairmont     MSHSL   3  A    7  ( 1- 5- 1) 
   148   SD     HS  1003.4903                                   Oahe    SDHSHL   1  A    3  ( 0- 2- 1) 
   149   MN     HS  1003.0800                                RedWing     MSHSL   4  A   11  ( 3- 8- 0) 
   150   WI     HS  1002.8900                    Icebergs(Stoughton)      WIAA   4  A   10  ( 1- 9- 0) 
   151   WI     HS  1002.0299              NorthernEdge(Rhinelander)      WIAA   1  A    6  ( 1- 5- 0) 
   152   MN     HS  1001.9120                            Worthington     MSHSL   3  A    5  ( 1- 4- 0) 
   153   SD     HS  1001.6954                              Watertown    SDHSHL   1  A    6  ( 1- 5- 0) 
   154   MN     HS  1001.1515                            MankatoWest     MSHSL   2  A    9  ( 0- 8- 1) 
   155   SD     HS  1001.1097                            SiouxCenter    SDHSHL   1  A    4  ( 0- 4- 0) 
   156   SD     HS  1000.3545                                  Huron    SDHSHL   1  A    5  ( 0- 5- 0) 
   157   MN     HS  1000.2273                      Morris/BensonArea     MSHSL   6  A   10  ( 4- 6- 0) 
   158   MN     HS  1000.2252                           DetroitLakes     MSHSL   8  A   10  ( 1- 9- 0) 
   159   MN     HS  1000.2168                     InternationalFalls     MSHSL   8  A    9  ( 0- 9- 0) 
   160   MN     HS  1000.1118                          PrairieCentre     MSHSL   6  A    7  ( 1- 6- 0) 
   161   MN     HS  1000.0000                                 Austin     MSHSL   1  A    8  ( 1- 7- 0) 
   162   WI     HS   999.0486             NorthlandPines(EagleRiver)      WIAA   1  A    7  ( 1- 6- 0) 


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Re: GIRLS HS HOCKEY COMPUTER RATINGS: DEC 18, 2022

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Is this based on record and SOS?
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Re: GIRLS HS HOCKEY COMPUTER RATINGS: DEC 18, 2022

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Does anyone have an updated Ranking from this? Would be interesting to see the SOS of state tournament teams. Just thinking about the differences between all 8 teams and how wide a range they have. Edina, Tonka, Andover all played monster schedules. Rosemount and Lakeville stayed south of the river and Gentry played anyone that would play them. Centennial seems mostly north metro and moorhead did their best to bolster the schedule by making multiple trips down. I'm wondering what the numbers say.
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Re: GIRLS HS HOCKEY COMPUTER RATINGS: DEC 18, 2022

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girlshockey4ever wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:05 am Does anyone have an updated Ranking from this? Would be interesting to see the SOS of state tournament teams. Just thinking about the differences between all 8 teams and how wide a range they have. Edina, Tonka, Andover all played monster schedules. Rosemount and Lakeville stayed south of the river and Gentry played anyone that would play them. Centennial seems mostly north metro and moorhead did their best to bolster the schedule by making multiple trips down. I'm wondering what the numbers say.
Unless (or until) LSQRANK sends out an update, the only similar rankings are the old QRF rankings:
https://www.minnesota-scores.net/girls- ... 23/overall

They used to post the SOS too, but it's been absent the last couple year.

I took a quick look at all the schedules of the AA tournament teams. Below is a record of their games against other top teams (arbitrary/IMO), which includes games against top 10 teams from A and AA, and other participating AA tournament teams. Nothing new to see. The top 4 teams had really strong and equal SOS’s. We can see the reason why Moorhead got the #5 seed, and that Cent/SLP simply drew the short straw on the random draw for the last 3 seeds (they probably would’ve been the #6 seed):

Tonka (11 games, 9-2-0): Stillwater (W), Andover (L, W), Moorhead (W), Edina (W, L), HM (W), MG (W, W), HF (W, W)
Andover (16 games, 13-3-0): BSM (W), Edina (W, W), Blake (W, W), Gentry (L), Tonka (W, L), Moorhead (W, W), P/H (W), MG (W), HM (L), Cent/SLP (W), Warroad (W), Stillwater (W)
Edina (15 games, 10-4-1): Andover (L), HM (W), HF (W, T), Tonka (L, W), MG (W), Andover (L), Warroad (W), Blake (L, W), P/H (W), BSM (W, W), Stillwater (W)
Gentry (11 games, 9-2-0): Blake (W, W), Andover (W), Warroad (L), Cent/SLP (W), Stillwater (W, W, W), HF (W), P/H (L), HM (W)
Moorhead (10 games, 2-8-0): Lakeville North (W), Blake (L), Tonka (L), HF (W), Andover (L, L), MG (L), HM (L), Warroad (L, L)
Lakeville North (5 games, 2-3-0): Moorhead (L), Rosemount (W, W), Warroad (L), P/H (L)
Rosemount (4 games, 1-3-0): Simley (W), Cent/SLP (L), Lakeville North (L, L)
Cent/SLP (8 games, 3-5-0): MG (L, L, W), Rosemount (W), Blake (W, L), Gentry (L), Andover (L)
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Re: GIRLS HS HOCKEY COMPUTER RATINGS: DEC 18, 2022

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Pagestat has strength of schedule as well:
https://www.leepagen.com/strength-g.htm
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Eagles93 wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:00 am Pagestat has strength of schedule as well:
https://www.leepagen.com/strength-g.htm
Thanks! From that, here's the AA teams. I was a bit surprised to see Gentry at 31. It seemed like they played enough good teams to put them somewhere in the top 15 for SOS. I guess not. Too many not so good teams (St. Cloud, Sartell, Hudson, Red Wing, Hastings, Fort Francis twice, WBL). Not that it matters because they are a legit top 4 team.
2 EDINA 6AA 19.244 19.453
4 ANDOVER 7AA 18.953 19.785
7 MINNETONKA 2AA 18.473 19.095
14 MOORHEAD 8AA 17.972 17.972
18 CENTENNIAL/SPRING LAKE PARK 5AA 17.740 17.740
28 LAKEVILLE NORTH 1AA 16.824 17.121
31 GENTRY ACADEMY 4AA 16.732 18.827
32 ROSEMOUNT 3AA 16.692 16.692
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Re: GIRLS HS HOCKEY COMPUTER RATINGS: DEC 18, 2022

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Great work. What is the difference between "gross" and "net" hmmmmm
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Re: GIRLS HS HOCKEY COMPUTER RATINGS: DEC 18, 2022

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girlshockey4ever wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:19 pm Great work. What is the difference between "gross" and "net" hmmmmm
Good question. Since it's noted that "Net Avg is a team's SOS average only in games which are used in PageStat", maybe PageStat removed the Canadian and Wisconsin games from Gentry's schedule? If that's the case, it moves them up to 7th, which would make more sense. Then again, Andover, Edina, and Tonka's net avg was adjusted upward also, and none of them played a CAN or WI team. Who knows.
2 ANDOVER 7AA 19.785
3 EDINA 6AA 19.453
5 MINNETONKA 2AA 19.095
7 GENTRY ACADEMY 4AA 18.827
16 MOORHEAD 8AA 17.972
19 CENTENNIAL/SPRING LAKE PARK 5AA 17.74
25 LAKEVILLE NORTH 1AA 17.121
34 ROSEMOUNT 3AA 16.692
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Re: GIRLS HS HOCKEY COMPUTER RATINGS: DEC 18, 2022

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I'm confused as well, as you said it probably removes non-MN teams for net but I can't wrap my brain around why there would be a difference. If, for instance, Fort Francis isn't calculated in Pagestat, why would that change a team's SOS? It's essentially a non-game, no? Fort Francis is of course not very good, but what if they were really good? How does the formula know if they're not included in PS? Maybe Lee can explain?

I assume the slight offset between net and gross for Andover, Edina, etc. is because one of their opponents played a team that is not used in PS?
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Re: GIRLS HS HOCKEY COMPUTER RATINGS: DEC 18, 2022

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Eagles93 wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:51 pm I assume the slight offset between net and gross for Andover, Edina, etc. is because one of their opponents played a team that is not used in PS?
I assumed that also, but then a team like Cent/SLP would've been adjusted since they played Gentry too. But they stood at 17.740 for both Net and Gross. It's a mystery that I'm sure Lee can easily solve for us.
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