Apple iPod

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:12 pm

I am thinking about replacing my 20GB for one of the new 60GB. If anyone owns a 60GB, could you give me some pros and cons? I've already looked at the reviews on CNet and other websites, but the 60GB costs $400 so I want all of the reviews I can get! Thanks. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"> The Puck – aka: The self-proclaimed People’s Champion

Nostalgic Nerd · Post by **Nostalgic Nerd** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:46 pm

I hear they can break down internally as well as the external hardware, particularly the display screen if you put it in your pocket. Whatever you do, get a warranty or something. "Dream as if you'll live forever; Live as if you'll die today." --James Dean

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:57 pm

Yeah, I bought a 3 year warranty for my 20GB and it has been useful to get (the scroll wheel malfunctioned). I will definitely get another warranty, if I decide to get a 60GB. Thanks for the post. But overall, would you recommend or not? Thanks again. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"> The Puck – aka: The self-proclaimed People’s Champion

Nostalgic Nerd · Post by **Nostalgic Nerd** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:18 pm

Maybe it's obvious, but go to Amazon and read the reviews. It's the one place you will get the most variety of opinion. I really don't know alot about them. I seem to remember the Sony versions or some other company being a bit more reliable and sturdy. But the loss is apparently they do not have some of the key features Apple does. I dunno. Does one really need more than a 1000 songs on their ipod? "Dream as if you'll live forever; Live as if you'll die today." --James Dean

Nostalgic Nerd · Post by **Nostalgic Nerd** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:50 pm

I apologize for that, but I really should have tried to help you out more hands on. They should have really made it easier by condensing the black & white if they are the exact same type. These are user comments. Here goes... <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000A3 ... g=UTF8">60 GB with video playback</a> 1. For starters, it's really not 60Gb, it's around 55Gb. Apple used the same criteria as HD manufacturers, which is to consider 1Gb as 10^9 bytes, when 1Gb is equal to 2^30. 2. The only way you can charge the batteries is through the USB port of your computer, unless you buy extra acessories. The unit does not come with an AC adapter. 3. Yes, you can plug this into your TV to watch movies, but it's another extra accessory (the AV cable). 4. The documentation that comes with the unit is quite poor. There are a lot of books about using the iPod in ways that the documentation doesn't address, though. 5. It seems that Apple ignores the existence of Linux, since there is no iTunes for Linux, and no plans for it. There are some options around that enable you to take songs in (and out) of the iPod in Linux, but naturally these are unsupported, so the risk of damaging your music collection irreversibly (i almost lost mine when i used ephPod) is entirely yours. 6. I'm a really big fan of cross-references, so I wish we had the option to, while a music is playing, see music of the same genre, same album, same artist, etc, and be able to jump back and forth between related music. Say, i'm listening to Pink Floyd, which is in the 'Progressive Rock' genre, and from there i can see Emerson Lake and Palmer, which is related to the same genre. 7. The 'shuffle' option is somewhat useless to me, since it uses every single song in the player. I wish it worked only for the list of songs I intend to hear in the moment, like of an album, or an artist or genre. 8. 55Gb is A LOT of space! I'm trying hard to reach 10Gb, and I have a LOT of songs and CDs. If you have a huge collection of music and want to carry it around with you everywhere you go (like me) then this iPod is more than enough. 9. Why not stuff more audio formats, like OggVorbis, and especially video formats, like DivX? Better yet, why not release them as 'plug-ins' or maybe publish an API that enable software developers write plugins for it? 10. Video resolution is not very good for a TV set or home-theater. I hope Apple can improve this through a firmware update someday. All that being said, this is a wonderful product to have, and it's certainly the best portable media player around. Every aspect of this piece of technology was carefully designed. Its looks, its packaging, the way it works, etc. Apple just doesn't make anything that comes short of 'cool'. --- Pros: Eye candy small and slim can play video many accessories Cons: Scratches easly custemer suport sucks no removable battery pack over priced only works with I tunes hard dives fail on occasion almost no battery life compared to other mp3 players break easly small memory --- Pros: 1.It has 60 gigs worth of space. 2.It is very thin, despite the amount of memory. 3.Has the unique photo storage feature. 4.Also has the unique Video playback feature. 5.Color screen looks very good. 6.Has addictive games you can play while listening to your music. 7.It is the largest capacity MP3 player on the market. 8.Itunes software is simple to install and use. 9.The click wheel offers much faster navigation for easier acess to your music. However, sometimes, it can get tedious to try and pick a certain artist using the click wheel, as it sometimes scrolls an extra time when you hardly even touch it, causing you to pick the wrong artist (it gets annoying after a while). Cons: 1.Case it comes with gets dirty easily, and doesn't protect much. 2.Ipod gets scratched VERY easily, and isn't the least bit durable. One fall, and you have to send it back. 3.WAY too expensive. 4.Headphones are average quality. 5.Extremely low battery life compared to others on the market. --- 1. Apple provides almost no documentation with the iPod. If you want to read the owners manual you have to download it from their website or from Amazon.com. Even then, the owners manual doesn't give a whole lot of detail on things like converting video to a format which will be playable on the iPod. You have to visit the online help section of the Apple website. 2. The iPod doesn't come with all of the software necessary to connect it to your computer. The iPod does come with a special version of iTunes, BUT it does not come with the proper version of Quicktime - you need version 7 to run the iTunes software they provide. You have to download this from their website too. When I did the download, I was visiting my folks and had to use their dial up internet access to download Quicktime 7 - this took 2.5 hours. Another thing, when you install Quicktime 7 it also installs a version of iTunes. - This is important - This version of iTunes is NOT the correct version required to run the iPod. Once you install Quicktime 7, you need to install the iTunes software provided WITH the iPod afterwards. The Apple website erroneously indicates that the iTunes downloaded with Quicktime 7 is the latest version of iTunes - not true - The iTunes supplied with the iPod is the true latest version. I tried to connect my iPod to the computer using the incorrect version of iTunes and the iPod froze completely which brings me to my next criticism. 3. There is no way to re-set the iPod when it freezes like mine did. The screen stayed lit and the "Do Not Disconnect" message stopped flashing. When my laptop freezes up, if nothing else works, I can always remove the battery. Not so with the iPod. The battery is inaccessible. If you need to get a new battery, the owners manual says you have to ship your iPod to Apple, and pay about $ 60 to replace your battery. Also, Apple says that when your iPod comes back with the new battery, all of your music, videos and pictures will be gone. You will have to re-load them all again. It also (helpfully) says to make a backup of your files before you send it in. I had to wait for the battery to run out before I could try again. 4. Apple doesn't supply a recharger with this iPod. Unlike previous iPods Apple cheaped out on supplying a recharger. You can recharge the iPod through the USB port on your computer, however this is not helpful on the road unless you happen to have a laptop or other access to a computer. Apple will sell you a recharger for $30.00, and according to several customer reviews on the Apple website, the recharger doesn't come with the proper connecting cord. Apparently this costs another $20.00 5. The iPod software doesn't come equipped to convert video files into a form which will play on the iPod. The Apple website says you need to upgrade to Quicktime 7 PRO for another $ 30.00. According to Apple Quicktime 7 PRO "easily converts video files". NOT TRUE - While Quicktime 7 PRO may convert some files, it does not convert "muxed" video files which I learned later from the Apple website (after I purchased Quicktime 7 PRO), that it will not convert "muxed" video. FYI "muxed" video is when your video and audio are integrated into one data stream. A search of the internet led me to the Ulead website. They sell a product called Intervideo CD Copy 4 Platinum, which will rip video from your home DVD's and convert them to a format suitable for the iPod video. However, the software costs $79.00 - you can download a free trial version. I ended up buying the software and it works fine. Buying Quicktime 7 PRO was a total waste of my $ 30.00 --- Pros: -Looks awesome -High capacity. No other company yet offers a 60GB player. They are all stuck on 30GB. -Video capability -Good interface -Good value. For once in the history of all versions of the iPod, the 60GB video player is the best value in it's segment. However, I doubt this will last long. Apple products have been notoriously overpriced throughout Apple's history and I doubt other companies will sit around for long watching Apple bask in its newfound value. Cons: -Faceplate (including screen) scratch very very easily. After a short time, the beautiful video is hindered by all of the scratches on the screen. This is really the most serious problem with this iPod. Go find someone who has had theirs for a while and just look at it. Not so pretty anymore. Make sure you buy a protective covering if you buy an iPod. -Materials are typical Apple quality. Which is to say, they are very low quality. Drop the iPod from 2 feet = GAME OVER. Sometimes you don't even need to drop it, it just breaks itself. -iPod must be sent to Apple when it needs a new battery. Other companies' music players have removable batteries to avoid this annoyance -Ease of use? Most other companies use an interface that is nearly the same as Apple's. In fact, Creative's is almost exactly the same. If you think the iPod is easy to use, then many other players will be easy to use too. Just compare Apple's interface to Creative's (as an example). Both have few buttons and a scroll device and their interfaces are nearly identical. --- If it were me personally, I would look around. Even if the base price of the 60 GB were not an issue, look at the potential headaches ahead. No battery access, isn't durable, scratches, added costs to get other features? I wouldn't wanna dog Apple in general, but do you need video? Maybe a lesser but more reliable model is sufficient? Good luck. "Dream as if you'll live forever; Live as if you'll die today." --James Dean

EREmpireStrikesBack · Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:54 pm

If you really want the video, go with the 30GB version. The extra $ for the 30GB isn't worth it. Just take something off and put one what you want and it is hard to take up that much space anyway. Personally, I'm a fan of the Nano. It is tiny, I like the lanyard headphones and isn't too expensive. But like NN said, look around. There are iPod forums and reviews everywhere. Read around, ask questions and do research. Best of luck! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls

hillhockey · Post by **hillhockey** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:38 pm

The Lithium batteries they use in iPODs are only good for so long, then you they dont recharge very well, until they dont recharge at all. So you have to buy a new IPod every few years. My scroll wheel caved in a month or two ago, but i was able to pop it back out. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... y</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.hmpioneers.net/hockey/images/hm2001.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 3/7/06 11:55 pm

frozen · Post by **frozen** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:23 am

i'll just stick with the good old portable tape player.. it gets the job done... <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> there'd be no hockey if the water wasn't FROZEN

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:07 am

I'd just like to say thank you to everyone that posted their opinions. I read everything you guys had to say and everything was very helpful! If you have anything else, post it! I appreciate it, so keep it coming! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"> The Puck – aka: The self-proclaimed People’s Champion

WBJG · Post by **WBJG** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:23 am

the only reason you'll need a 60g is if you're going to store a lot of full movies on it.

hawkfan70 · Post by **hawkfan70** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:31 pm

i got an ipod for xmas and haven't even opened it yet <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/sick.gif ALT=":x"> do i need to get itunes to put music on it?<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)">

Post by **east hockey** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:42 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> the only reason you'll need a 60g is if you're going to store a lot of full movies on it.<hr></blockquote> That's pretty much the deal. I have 7,500 mp3's and they only take up 37 gigs of space. ____________ Message Board arsonist since 2005 Egomaniac since 2006

EREmpireStrikesBack · Post by **EREmpireStrikesBack** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:52 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>do i need to get itunes to put music on it?<hr></blockquote> No, but it makes it much easier. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls

hawkfan70 · Post by **hawkfan70** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:53 pm

you could add terribly <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)">

chuckslim · Post by **chuckslim** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:12 pm

wow good thing i dont have one, seems like too much of a hassle

hawkfan70 · Post by **hawkfan70** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:13 pm

I'll let you know when I have the nerve to open it <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> see how that works <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)">

EREmpireStrikesBack · Post by **EREmpireStrikesBack** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:41 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> you could add terribly<hr></blockquote> My bad. TERRIBLY <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls

chuckslim · Post by **chuckslim** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:16 pm

Are there anything else out there but i-pods that u can put music on?

EREmpireStrikesBack · Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:07 pm

Lots and lots. Just search eBay or Amazon for mp3 players. Size, capacity, color, options... the possibilities are endless. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls

slapshooter · Post by **slapshooter** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:19 am

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EREmpireStrikesBack · Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:36 am

Why am I not surprised by that? <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls

chuckslim · Post by **chuckslim** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:54 pm

Tater chips, chokin it in the finals again<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"> I donno im bored<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D">

hawkfan70 · Post by **hawkfan70** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:08 pm

you mean board <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)">

chuckslim · Post by **chuckslim** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:47 pm

Same thing i cant spell anyways so dont confuse me<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"> ... <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o">

Govs93 · Post by **Govs93** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:41 pm

I may be posting my live game updates on this baby next season. They finally got the price & network right.

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