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No Mercy in Football

Post by packerboy »

I have been to 3 HS football games this Fall and while I enjoy getting out , the games have been over by the middle of the second quarter.

35-0 so before half.

We have all of this nonsense in Hockey and Baseball that protects our poor witto babies from a lopsided score.

We have running time in the 3rd for a 6 goal lead or more in hockey and the ever popular 10 run rule in baseball that the mushbrained ultra liberals have cramed down our throats.

Where's all the compassion for our poor witto football players. We play stop time all the way no matter what. Heck,we have refs calling false starts with the 4th stringers in and the score 52-7.

I hate the 'mercy rules' in hockey and baseball but I wonder how football escaped the bleeding hearts who have taken over athletics.
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Re: No Mercy in Football

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packerboy wrote:I have been to 3 HS football games this Fall and while I enjoy getting out , the games have been over by the middle of the second quarter.

35-0 so before half.

We have all of this nonsense in Hockey and Baseball that protects our poor witto babies from a lopsided score.

We have running time in the 3rd for a 6 goal lead or more in hockey and the ever popular 10 run rule in baseball that the mushbrained ultra liberals have cramed down our throats.

Where's all the compassion for our poor witto football players. We play stop time all the way no matter what. Heck,we have refs calling false starts with the 4th stringers in and the score 52-7.

I hate the 'mercy rules' in hockey and baseball but I wonder how football escaped the bleeding hearts who have taken over athletics.
According to this article,

"The (Minneapolis) City Conference has a blowout rule, in which running time is used in the second half when the game turns into a train wreck."

I don't know exactly what a "train wreck" is defined as, but they have something in play.
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Milea's last sentence in that article is so typical: "Truth be told, no one came out a winner in this game".

Ahhh John, thats not exactly right. Wayzata won 51-0.

But he is so typical of the bleeding heart , ultra liberal Democrat types that are just so upset if one team wins by a lot.

Hats off to the North kids and coach for being able to put it in perspective and take something out of it. They arent crying about it. But they dont need to, they have enough "mommies"like Milea to do that for them.
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Post by Can't Never Tried »

They still believe in football that the Almighty will deliver the comeback. [-o<


It's a good question...what would you have?? running time in the 2nd 1/2 if they have more then a 35 point lead or what??

I don't like mercy rules either...


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packerboy wrote: ultra liberal Democrat types that are just so upset if one team wins by a lot.
B.S.! I'd lump myself in with that crowd, and I loved nothing more than pounding the snot out of CDH year after year!

And aren't you the one calling for a mercy rule here? Sounds to me like you don't care for the routs either, but then you get upset when a "liberal" doesn't like a team winning by a lot?

Please tell me I'm missing something here, because this sounds an awful lot like a certain "somebody" we all know! :shock: :wink:
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You are speed reading Govs.

I said I didnt like the "mercy rules" but having been to some blowout football games, wondered how football had escaped them.

But I understand. When you and your buddy John Milea get together, all that matters is to protect our witto babies, even if they dont want it.

Just have fun and get a treat after the game.
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Post by Can't Never Tried »

packerboy wrote: Just have fun and get a treat after the game.

Nothing like a treat after a blowout....
I prefer those Juice boxes and of course a healthy granola bar....right!
Give me a Jolt and a twinkie :D


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packerboy wrote:You are speed reading Govs.

I said I didnt like the "mercy rules" but having been to some blowout football games, wondered how football had escaped them.

But I understand. When you and your buddy John Milea get together, all that matters is to protect our witto babies, even if they dont want it.

Just have fun and get a treat after the game.
I did speed read, so I appreciate the clarification - I thought we were heading down a dangerous road there for a minute.

But as I said, and you evidently missed or ignored (as you right wingers are want to do), I'm with you on this one. We all took our lumps on the playing fields growing up, and with the exception of you conservatives ( :wink: ), most of us have done ok for ourselves.

Besides, I think we can all agree that there aren't many better things in life than avenging horrible loss... Just looking across to the other bench or dugout or whatever, and seeing that look of "what the hell just happened?" is the ultimate!
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Its really these nimrods who make up the rules and want to make up more that are so affected by all of this. (a/k/a Democrats)

Milea works for The Red Star but he would fit right in at any mom's group meeting.

The kids dont care. They know that one sided games are a part of athletics. Thast because they are the ones who are playing.

The North kids just wanted to play Wayzata, they dont care what the score was. They did their best against a superior opponent. Good for them. Wayzata played the game and did their best and won big. Good for them too.

The only people who are losers are the ones that cant handle that and are obsessed with passing rules.
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packerboy wrote:
The kids dont care. They know that one sided games are a part of athletics. Thast because they are the ones who are playing.
I'm starting to wonder about this. I'm sure the kids from North knew they were going to be up against it, but in general, I don't know that a lot of kids (particularly where I now live) ever have a thought in their head that they could get blown out. It's clear that the parents in my area (most of whom I despise, btw), pay little to no attention to their kids unless it's at an event where they can have some say in how it ends up.

And I'll also say this - it's not exclusively parents. Some of the associations out here have to have the same kind of control.

I've always considered myself a fairly decent kids baseball coach - I've had some success with 13-14 years olds when I was still on the Eastside. When I moved out to the Wayzata area, I looked into maybe seeing if I could coach out there... until I found out that they train all of their coaches at all levels to coach the same things in the same way (you can see it here). How ridiculous is that? You're going to groom kids to learn to play when they're 6 years old, and essentially give them nothing new for the next 13-14 years?! That is absolutely absurd.

Don't get me wrong, coaches should be certified so that they know what lines they can and can't cross, but to turn the kids into what are more or less mindless "robots", learning the same thing in the same way year after year? You're going to turn kids away from the sport.

Let them learn new things from new people in new and different styles and let them pick up what they feel that can use from their different coaches to benefit them the most. Maybe they learn an offensive or defensive style, or maybe they learn that it's more important for them to just have fun and not always win. That's fine - but at least they're given the opportunity to determine that themselves, and not having it thrust upon them by ego driven parents & sports associations.
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packerboy wrote:Its really these nimrods who make up the rules and want to make up more that are so affected by all of this. (a/k/a Democrats)

Milea works for The Red Star but he would fit right in at any mom's group meeting.

The kids dont care. They know that one sided games are a part of athletics. Thast because they are the ones who are playing.

The North kids just wanted to play Wayzata, they dont care what the score was. They did their best against a superior opponent. Good for them. Wayzata played the game and did their best and won big. Good for them too.

The only people who are losers are the ones that cant handle that and are obsessed with passing rules.
Gee Joe, maybe BillO can set us Lie-brawls right on this issue.

You can always tell a Republican. You just can't tell him much. :)

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east hockey wrote:
packerboy wrote:Its really these nimrods who make up the rules and want to make up more that are so affected by all of this. (a/k/a Democrats)

Milea works for The Red Star but he would fit right in at any mom's group meeting.

The kids dont care. They know that one sided games are a part of athletics. Thast because they are the ones who are playing.

The North kids just wanted to play Wayzata, they dont care what the score was. They did their best against a superior opponent. Good for them. Wayzata played the game and did their best and won big. Good for them too.

The only people who are losers are the ones that cant handle that and are obsessed with passing rules.
Gee Joe, maybe BillO can set us Lie-brawls right on this issue.

You can always tell a Republican. You just can't tell him much. :)

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So Govs, are you finding out that things can get a little too organized.

We struggle with balance dont we?

We organize our athletics which is good but we cant stop ourselves sometimes. We have to go too far and make up 'mercy rules'.

But why do you suppose the MSHSL lets blowout football games go on but cant allow it in baseball or hockey?

And as far as coaching goes , Govs, Ive heard the best place to do that is in an orphanage. :lol:
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east hockey wrote:
packerboy wrote:Its really these nimrods who make up the rules and want to make up more that are so affected by all of this. (a/k/a Democrats)

Milea works for The Red Star but he would fit right in at any mom's group meeting.

The kids dont care. They know that one sided games are a part of athletics. Thast because they are the ones who are playing.

The North kids just wanted to play Wayzata, they dont care what the score was. They did their best against a superior opponent. Good for them. Wayzata played the game and did their best and won big. Good for them too.

The only people who are losers are the ones that cant handle that and are obsessed with passing rules.
Gee Joe, maybe BillO can set us Lie-brawls right on this issue.

You can always tell a Republican. You just can't tell him much. :)

Lee
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Post by elliott70 »

As Barry Goldwater once said, " Where did all those damn democrats come from?"
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packerboy wrote:Milea's last sentence in that article is so typical: "Truth be told, no one came out a winner in this game".

Ahhh John, thats not exactly right. Wayzata won 51-0.

But he is so typical of the bleeding heart , ultra liberal Democrat types that are just so upset if one team wins by a lot.

Hats off to the North kids and coach for being able to put it in perspective and take something out of it. They arent crying about it. But they dont need to, they have enough "mommies"like Milea to do that for them.
Hey PB.

Getting a little board this fall waiting for hockey to start?

And by the way...what do you have against "mommies"?

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Politics and "the blowout rule"?

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Packerboy, are you saying that Republicans are against "blowout rules" in sports?

So Republicans want to watch a blowout until the bitter end, higher the point spread the better,......and Democrats want to hurry up and get the game over with, the winner has been decided, the loser won't catch up, lets end this before someone needlessly gets hurt.

Are Caucasians for "blowouts"? What about Catholics?
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Thats right elliott. We must be vigilant. We cant aford to be as surprised as good ole Barry was.

We let the bleeders put in the mercy stuff in baseball and hockey.

We need to be more like the football guys and keep these ultra liberals out of it.
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Re: Politics and "the blowout rule"?

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Knowlzee wrote:Packerboy, are you saying that Republicans are against "blowout rules" in sports?

So Republicans want to watch a blowout until the bitter end, higher the point spread the better,......and Democrats want to hurry up and get the game over with, the winner has been decided, the loser won't catch up, lets end this before someone needlessly gets hurt.

Are Caucasians for "blowouts"? What about Catholics?
See. There it is. We have to be for or against a blowout.

"Say, ah, what is your position on blowouts?"

Let it happen.Its a natural and expected outcome of some athletic events.

Dont control it. Its just a game. What difference does it make what the score is? Keep playing till the game is over.

Next, we will stop games that are too close becasue of all the pressure that it puts on our witto babies.
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TTpuckster wrote:
packerboy wrote:Milea's last sentence in that article is so typical: "Truth be told, no one came out a winner in this game".

Ahhh John, thats not exactly right. Wayzata won 51-0.

But he is so typical of the bleeding heart , ultra liberal Democrat types that are just so upset if one team wins by a lot.

Hats off to the North kids and coach for being able to put it in perspective and take something out of it. They arent crying about it. But they dont need to, they have enough "mommies"like Milea to do that for them.
Hey PB.

Getting a little board this fall waiting for hockey to start?

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Well, obviously. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Neutron 14 »

Anyone who thinks the Democrats don't enjoy a good massacre, missed the last election...
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Post by Govs93 »

packerboy wrote:
We let the bleeders put in the mercy stuff in baseball and hockey.
I feel as though it should be noted that while I was expressing my disdain for this practice by the parents and associations in my area, my area is heavily Republican! Don't buy into any of PB's right wing garbage. :shock:

It's not a "blue vs. red" situation. It's generational. For some reason my generation is way too protective of their kids. I know I am of my daughter in a lot of ways, but it's not on the scoreboard at all. If she goes out and gets her ass kicked on the soccer field, I'll buy her a treat and we'll talk about what went wrong, how we can correct the mistakes, and get out there and work on it in the backyard. It's not going to make or break who she is.
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Post by packerboy »

Neutron 14 wrote:Anyone who thinks the Democrats don't enjoy a good massacre, missed the last election...
Good point.

And when Lee's favorite party nominates Hilary....................................
better get ready for running time.

But the best case for the proposition that the Democrats love a good blowout is illustarted below:



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Post by Govs93 »

packerboy wrote:
Neutron 14 wrote:Anyone who thinks the Democrats don't enjoy a good massacre, missed the last election...
Good point.

And when Lee's favorite party nominates Hilary....................................
better get ready for running time.

But the best case for the proposition that the Democrats love a good blowout is illustarted below:



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Well, they can't all be winners:

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Post by Stealth »

Is it for the WHITE SHIRTS? Second, third & fourth liners that the parents show up to see their little darling get in for maybe two / three snaps or a kick off return at the very end?

This all has to do with $$$$. Much better gate monies.
Heck, if you think about it. How many football teams have 80+ on the bench? Mon, dad, family, grandparents, friends can add up to a good gate being they hope to be there when that child might get in...
Let along it is held on a Friday night no conflict evening.
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