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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:52 pm    Post subject: Schwans Cup Reply with quote

Anyone know who is playing in this?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the link for this year's schedule:

http://www.nscsports.org/sports/hockey/tourneys/schwan_cup/sched_results.stm
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see WBL is not playing in it this year...

Sager always said, "if we aren't in the Gold Division, then we won't play in it". I guess he meant what he said for once.

Now I'm curious to see who they fill those three games with. I see Edina will be one. Will they bring back the Moorhead / Fargo South trip? Or, as I had always wanted, maybe they will stay close to home and add Mahtomedi and St. Thomas?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:40 am    Post subject: HM - WBL Reply with quote

How is Hill-Murray going to get that win streak back to 14 without an extra game against White Bear in the Schwan Cup? Now it will take longer.

I agree that there should be an annual WBL-Mahtomedi game.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: HM - WBL Reply with quote

stpaul wrote:
How is Hill-Murray going to get that win streak back to 14 without an extra game against White Bear in the Schwan Cup?


Answer: They're not, because they have games against Benilde and Minnetonka before the Schwan Cup.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Predictions:

Gold - Duluth East (easiest bracket)
Silver - Breck (should be in gold)
Bronze - Cretin
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:43 am    Post subject: HM - WBL Reply with quote

I was referring to HM's 14 game win streak against WBL that ended in the section final in March.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GOLD prediction:

Round 1:
Angels over STA
East over B'ville
Tonka over Hill
Edina over Blaine

Round 2:
East over Angels
Edina over Tonka

Round 3:
'ship
East over Edina
3rd
Tonka over Angels
Consolation
Blaine over STA
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MnMade-4-Life wrote:
GOLD prediction:

Round 1:
Angels over STA
East over B'ville
Tonka over Hill
Edina over Blaine

Round 2:
East over Angels
Edina over Tonka

Round 3:
'ship
East over Edina
3rd
Tonka over Angels
Consolation
Blaine over STA


This would be my predictions as well.. for now at least.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have any idea why cretin is in bronze this year? They took 2nd place in last year's silver division to holy angels so I'm curious as to why they were moved down?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why can't this tournament find a decent venue where it can be held on three consecutive days? Maybe even fill at least 50% of the seats instead of 15% at best. It's pretty clear that the Xcel barely tolerates the Schwan's Cup presence.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BodyShots wrote:
I see WBL is not playing in it this year...

Sager always said, "if we aren't in the Gold Division, then we won't play in it". I guess he meant what he said for once.

Now I'm curious to see who they fill those three games with. I see Edina will be one. Will they bring back the Moorhead / Fargo South trip? Or, as I had always wanted, maybe they will stay close to home and add Mahtomedi and St. Thomas?


Just found the answer to my questions. Looks like its Lakeville South, Edina, and Grand Rapids (Hockey Day). Not a bad non-conference schedule when you add in HM, DE, Cloq, and Roch Century.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:58 pm    Post subject: Thought Reply with quote

Why not just make it a one division 16 team tournament and be done. All that and perhaps if they did this tournament right they might actually draw a decent crowd.

really want to make this a great tournament... invite out of state top teams.... football, and basketball are doing it... why not!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

East Side Pioneer Guy wrote:
Why can' this tournament find a decent venue where it can be held on three consecutive days? Maybe even fill at least 50% of the seats instead of 15% at best. It's pretty clear that the Xcel barely tolerates the Schwan's Cup presence.


Definitely agree with that. Another question I have is why is it they are holding the first games at Ridder Arena this year and not Mariucci?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to the first round last year, at Mariucci. Even being significantly smaller than the Xcel, the crowd was still dwarfed by the empty seats. Ridder might be tight, or it could be a good atmosphere. I've been there for youth hockey, and it's a very nice facility. Too bad it doesn't have 5,000 or 6,000 seats.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this is the best possible venue for the Schwan Cup as of right now. The Xcel and Mariucci are way too big and rinks in the Super Rink and other rinks, Braemar, SLP, BIG, etc. have too much familiarity within the metro. I think Ridder will fill up nicely and have a great atmosphere. As long as the student sections show up!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:31 am    Post subject: perspecitive Reply with quote

Make it a showcase! Simple as that... , bring in teams from around the country!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: perspecitive Reply with quote

CenterIceReportMike wrote:
Make it a showcase! Simple as that... , bring in teams from around the country!


I'd rather watch the best teams skate ... let's keep it in state Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: perspecitive Reply with quote

MnMade-4-Life wrote:
CenterIceReportMike wrote:
Make it a showcase! Simple as that... , bring in teams from around the country!


I'd rather watch the best teams skate ... let's keep it in state Wink


... and no teams from the Duluth area either Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:45 pm    Post subject: Re: perspecitive Reply with quote

MnMade-4-Life wrote:
MnMade-4-Life wrote:
CenterIceReportMike wrote:
Make it a showcase! Simple as that... , bring in teams from around the country!


I'd rather watch the best teams skate ... let's keep it in state Wink


... and no teams from the Duluth area either Very Happy


Actually, I'd like to see it moved to the Duluth area. Have the Gold division at the Amsoil, Silver at the DECC and the Bronze at the Heritage Arena. Course, don't want to make the Cidiots drive too far now, do we? Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:04 pm    Post subject: really Reply with quote

are we hat arrogant.... wow.... take a look on the college hockey rosters and see where some of the kids come from, you might be surprised that they are not all from Minnesota....
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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take a look on the college hockey rosters and see where some of the kids come from, you might be surprised that they are not all from Minnesota....


True but they're not playing high school hockey either.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: really Reply with quote

CenterIceReportMike wrote:
are we hat arrogant.... wow.... take a look on the college hockey rosters and see where some of the kids come from, you might be surprised that they are not all from Minnesota....


New here, huh? Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:42 pm    Post subject: lee.... Reply with quote

Not new at all, actually used to coach hs hockey here in the cites a few years back. I guess my point is this.... other programs from other states have quality hockey. If we are going to be arrogant to believe that MN HS hockey is the best and others cant compete, that is plain ol bull. Im not saying any other state in the country could compete from top to bottom, but top to top there are a few... Minnesota is not the only state with High School Hockey!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year no team from another state could beat EP.

The year before, no team would have ever beaten Tonka during the regular season, (after a 4OT game) maybe

EP was pretty darn good in 08-09. (That Edina team could have beaten anyone out of state)


Before this, maybe MT ST Charles or Boston Catholic Memorial could beat the #1 team.
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