Mario Lucia - Notre Dame

starmvp · Post by **starmvp** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:31 pm

Mario Lucia commits to Notre Dame.. Not a surprise to me, congrats to Mario and good luck in the future!

BodyShots · Post by **BodyShots** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:18 am

Could this mean.....Don's not getting an extension

gopherpuck516 · Post by **gopherpuck516** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:53 am

Certainly not a surprise. Mario is a very good hockey player, but this is probably the best fit for him. It would've been nice to see him in a Gophers sweater, but hopefully we'll get a chance to see him play in MN again after his years in South Bend. Best of luck to Mario!

C-dad · Post by **C-dad** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:17 am

BodyShots wrote:Could this mean.....Don's not getting an extension

More likely to mean that he is. Mario doesn't want to be subjected to the kind of crap that came from a part of the fanbase when Tony played for his dad. (The ignorant part of the fanbase who couldn't see that Tony was a hard working, team player.)

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:25 am

You must be referring to that fan base that realized there were 150 guys NOT named Lucia who could have logged those minutes.

TTpuckster · Post by **TTpuckster** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:35 am

Personnaly,

I think it is a good idea not the play at the same place where a parent is the coach.
It can create unease on the team.
Whether there is favortism or not.
It will always be perceived as such by some.

Good luck to Mario

57special · Post by **57special** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:12 am

joining Anders Lee and Stephen Fogarty at ND.

Toomuchtoosoon · Post by **Toomuchtoosoon** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:16 am

You must be referring to that fan base that realized there were 150 guys NOT named Lucia who could have logged those minutes.

Could you name only about 10 of those kids. It should be easy since they would all be AHL and NHL players.

The kid is playing in the AHL-they do not hand those spots out to friends and family.

Also a good way to get an extra scholarship if you pay your kids way.

Oldtimehockeyguy23 · Post by **Oldtimehockeyguy23** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:39 pm

Toomuchtoosoon wrote:
You must be referring to that fan base that realized there were 150 guys NOT named Lucia who could have logged those minutes.
Could you name only about 10 of those kids. It should be easy since they would all be AHL and NHL players.

The kid is playing in the AHL-they do not hand those spots out to friends and family.

Also a good way to get an extra scholarship if you pay your kids way.

Fact is that Mario would not have received the same treatment Tony did if he would have played for the gophs because Mario was a second round pick and a known star. Tony was a 7th round pick and was still a question mark as a freshman for the gophers. He turned out to work his ass off and become a great player and captain for the team and improved greatly in his time at the U.

Shinbone_News · Post by **Shinbone_News** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:18 pm

A known star? Hmm. 47 points, good for about 70th in the state last year.

He's big, fast... and has a good name. Not saying he's not going to be a star. Just saying.

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:28 pm

Shinbone_News wrote:A known star? Hmm. 47 points, good for about 70th in the state last year.

How many guys ahead of him played as tough of a schedule as he did and scored more than his 30 goals?

Shinbone_News wrote:He's big, fast... and has a good name. Not saying he's not going to be a star. Just saying.

Not quite sure what you're saying, but I was disappointed - although not surprised - that he decided to go to Notre Dame.

I happened to go to the Wild's scrimmage earlier this summer when he was playing against other Wild draftees, guys with minor league experience and/or college grads, and Lucia definitely looked like he belonged out there. Not out of place at all, in fact he stood out at times which is pretty decent, I'd say, for a high school kid. Yeah, he probably won't turn out to be the next Sidney Crosby, but he's definitely got potential to be a very good NHL player, and maybe then some.

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:52 am

When assessing Mario as a prospect you missed on the one thing that kept him out of the first round. His skating/speed was the biggest area of concern.
#1 asset is he possesses NHL size
#2 great hands for a big kid
#3 shoots the puck very well and knows how to score
#4 intelligent (on and off the ice/good character) and very competitive

Whether its the NHL or Notre Dame or the "U" its not what he is now but what these teams think he might become if he can bring his skating up to the level of the rest of his considerable skills. I'm sure Mario would tell you that continuing to build strength and improving his speed are the areas of his game that need the most work.

He has a chance to become a top six forward in the NHL, I wouldn't be one bit surprized to see him accomplish it.

Shinbone_News · Post by **Shinbone_News** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:03 am

MNHockeyFan wrote:
How many guys ahead of him played as tough of a schedule as he did and scored more than his 30 goals?

Fair point, but you can see for yourself: http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/subseason/st ... ason=27330

Rau, Toninato, Labate, Kinne, Merchant, Besse, Reid, Kloos, Skrbich, Michaleson, Anderle, Olson, Bahe, Wayzata's own Camarensi, Roo, Opperman, Brodzinski, Zajac... all quality players on quality teams who meet your criteria.

Keepyourheadup is right, and it's all I'm saying. He's looked at closely because of potential. And name/genetics/pedigree plays a big role in that. Why pretend otherwise?

Top six forward in the NHL is, I think, getting the cart a bit before the horse, but I can accept such brazen optimism in these dark days

The Best in the Bizz3 · Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:23 am

Shinbone_News wrote:
MNHockeyFan wrote:
How many guys ahead of him played as tough of a schedule as he did and scored more than his 30 goals?

Fair point, but you can see for yourself: http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/subseason/st ... ason=27330

Rau, Toninato, Labate, Kinne, Merchant, Besse, Reid, Kloos, Skrbich, Michaleson, Anderle, Olson, Bahe, Wayzata's own Camarensi, Roo, Opperman, Brodzinski, Zajac... all quality players on quality teams who meet your criteria.

Keepyourheadup is right, and it's all I'm saying. He's looked at closely because of potential. And name/genetics/pedigree plays a big role in that. Why pretend otherwise?

Top six forward in the NHL is, I think, getting the cart a bit before the horse, but I can accept such brazen optimism in these dark days

The only players listed here that played a harder schedule are Rau, Cameranisi, and Toninato. The other players listed either play in poor conferences or play several poor teams during the season.

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:28 am

Agreed shinbone, I did say a CHANCE to be a top six guy. That's why he got drafted where he did. Unfortunately the hockey landscape is littered with guys much like Mario who never quite got over the hump. I think a fair comparison might be a guy like Jeff taffe. No two players are the same but these two have similar skills at the same age. Very seldom do kids like Mario come along that aren't given every opportunity to fulfill their potential.

northwoods oldtimer · Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:15 pm

Toomuchtoosoon wrote:
You must be referring to that fan base that realized there were 150 guys NOT named Lucia who could have logged those minutes.
Could you name only about 10 of those kids. It should be easy since they would all be AHL and NHL players.

The kid is playing in the AHL-they do not hand those spots out to friends and family.

Also a good way to get an extra scholarship if you pay your kids way.

Shinbone_News · Post by **Shinbone_News** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:00 pm

The Best in the Bizz3 wrote: The only players listed here that played a harder schedule are Rau, Cameranisi, and Toninato. The other players listed either play in poor conferences or play several poor teams during the season.

You're kidding, right??? I'm sure the Hill-Murray, St. Thomas, BSM fans would agree with your sentiment. And Wayzata DOES play Hopkins a couple of times a year, last I heard.

Oh, and I forgot Randolph. But then he's got a good name too

Tigers33 · Post by **Tigers33** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:29 pm

You think Benilde and Wayzata play comparable schedules? Ha! And I didnt Labate play for Holy Angels.

No offense to south suburban conference players, but thats not even close to the schedule that wayzata plays.

Benilde: Cooper 10-1, chisago lakes 7-0, saint louis park 12-0, irondale 11-0, totino grace 9-2, chisago again 8-1, century 7-3, spring lake park again 1-2 (loss), irondale again 9-0, and totino again 6-1...Interesting.

Shinbone_News · Post by **Shinbone_News** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:52 pm

Wayzata:

6-1 Centennial, 10-2 Osseo, 7-0 Buffalo, 7-2 Champlin, 7-2 Hopkins, 5-3 Centennial, 9-3 Hopkins, 5-1 Lakeville N.

Yeah, Lake conference is toughest in the state. But they had some out of conference cakewalks too.

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:19 pm

Doesn't anyone compile a strength of schedule ranking? I believe the KRACH system is capable of calculating SOS. In any case, there is no way BSM's schedule comes close to Wayzata's. Did any other team play both EP and Edina 3 times each? Then add in Minnetonka, Maple Grove and Moorhead (2 times each) and throw in Duluth East, BSM, Jefferson, Burnsville, Apple Valley and Roseau for good measure and it's pretty obvious that Mario had to really work for his 30 goals.

Tigers33 · Post by **Tigers33** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:39 pm

shinbone - Are you serious? Are you comparing Hopkins, Centennial, Lakeville North, Buffalo, Champlin, and Osseo to that of Benilde's schedule.

Lets see tougher - Spring Lake park (2), Irondale (2), Cooper, Totino Grace (2), Saint Louis park, Chisago lakes (2), and Century. Plus I think Benilde played Osseo, so we better had them in there too since you did.

Wayzata - Buffalo, Champlin, Osseo, Lakeville North, Centennial (2), and Hopkins (2)

Good argument

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:15 pm

Wayzata's schedule was as tough as anyones...end of story.

It certainly didn't hurt Mario playing with perhaps one of the best if not the best playmaking centerman in the state. Camaranisi is an outstanding player and had a hand in helping Mario put up the numbers he did. Don't take this as a shot at Lucia, I'm a big fan and believe his best hockey is yet to come. Lets face it, it would have been nice to see Mario here but given what went down with Tony I think most families would avoid the head ache. I say we just enjoy watching his development and see how far he goes.

20custom · Post by **20custom** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:04 pm

Maybe the kid wants a shot at winning a title..

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:46 am

Toomuchtoosoon wrote:
You must be referring to that fan base that realized there were 150 guys NOT named Lucia who could have logged those minutes.
Could you name only about 10 of those kids. It should be easy since they would all be AHL and NHL players.

The kid is playing in the AHL-they do not hand those spots out to friends and family.

Also a good way to get an extra scholarship if you pay your kids way.

Fill me in on where the senior Lucia is playing this season?

Shinbone_News · Post by **Shinbone_News** » Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:25 am

he's in Canadian juniors this year, at Penticton.

whoops, maybe you meant the older Lucia boy, rather than the high school senior Mario. Don't know about him.

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