Here is an article asking some good questions.
http://minnesotahockeyreport.com/2012/0 ... -or-worse/
Are Rule Changes for the Better, or Worse?
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Re: Are Rule Changes for the Better, or Worse?
This was a perfect article to explain how flawed the rules are in MN hockey and with USA hockey.Rank12 wrote:Here is an article asking some good questions.
http://minnesotahockeyreport.com/2012/0 ... -or-worse/
Look at just 2 of his points
-you cut pen min from 2 to 1:30 for some then increase 2 min to 5 min for others
-there is no checking till bantams when the spread between skill and size development is at the greatest - instead of putting checking into the lowest level where the players are almost all the same size
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Re: Are Rule Changes for the Better, or Worse?
Here is the issue. The rules where not being inforced properly. CFB was called boarding or cross check. Boarding was only called if it was a really bad hit. Head contact is still a new penalty and not called enough. The times didn't need to be changed, the enforcement of said penalties did. If you hit someone in the back 2+10, head first in the boards from behind 5+game. If you hit someone from the side and they go in boards head first 2, if they are injured (not hurt, injured) 5+game. If you contact someone above the head 2 minutes. Adding time to penalties does not help officials inforce the rules. It makes it more difficult. A CFB now punishes the checker for 15 minutes, which is fine, but the kid that didn't do anything that has to sit for 5 minutes is missing ice time.bringbackchecking wrote:This was a perfect article to explain how flawed the rules are in MN hockey and with USA hockey.Rank12 wrote:Here is an article asking some good questions.
http://minnesotahockeyreport.com/2012/0 ... -or-worse/
Look at just 2 of his points
-you cut pen min from 2 to 1:30 for some then increase 2 min to 5 min for others
-there is no checking till bantams when the spread between skill and size development is at the greatest - instead of putting checking into the lowest level where the players are almost all the same size
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Re: Are Rule Changes for the Better, or Worse?
well said quakerQuackerTracker wrote:Here is the issue. The rules where not being inforced properly. CFB was called boarding or cross check. Boarding was only called if it was a really bad hit. Head contact is still a new penalty and not called enough. The times didn't need to be changed, the enforcement of said penalties did. If you hit someone in the back 2+10, head first in the boards from behind 5+game. If you hit someone from the side and they go in boards head first 2, if they are injured (not hurt, injured) 5+game. If you contact someone above the head 2 minutes. Adding time to penalties does not help officials inforce the rules. It makes it more difficult. A CFB now punishes the checker for 15 minutes, which is fine, but the kid that didn't do anything that has to sit for 5 minutes is missing ice time.bringbackchecking wrote:This was a perfect article to explain how flawed the rules are in MN hockey and with USA hockey.Rank12 wrote:Here is an article asking some good questions.
http://minnesotahockeyreport.com/2012/0 ... -or-worse/
Look at just 2 of his points
-you cut pen min from 2 to 1:30 for some then increase 2 min to 5 min for others
-there is no checking till bantams when the spread between skill and size development is at the greatest - instead of putting checking into the lowest level where the players are almost all the same size
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Re: Are Rule Changes for the Better, or Worse?
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but the kid that didn't do anything that has to sit for 5 minutes is missing ice time.[/quote]
I would like to make a point on this statement. It is not completely true. It is a calculated risk a coach has to take. If someone has to serve a major penalty for your player you can leave the box empty for as long as you want. You simply need to move a player to the box AT A WHISTLE during the penalty. Then they can come out when the major is over. So if you wait it out and get a whistle with a minute thirty left in the penalty you put a guy in then and he probably doesn't miss a shift.
The risk is if you do not get a whistle to put anyone in the box when the 5 minutes is up to have to play short handed until the next whistle since you can't sent someone off the bench.
Just wanted to clarify what you said.
but the kid that didn't do anything that has to sit for 5 minutes is missing ice time.[/quote]
I would like to make a point on this statement. It is not completely true. It is a calculated risk a coach has to take. If someone has to serve a major penalty for your player you can leave the box empty for as long as you want. You simply need to move a player to the box AT A WHISTLE during the penalty. Then they can come out when the major is over. So if you wait it out and get a whistle with a minute thirty left in the penalty you put a guy in then and he probably doesn't miss a shift.
The risk is if you do not get a whistle to put anyone in the box when the 5 minutes is up to have to play short handed until the next whistle since you can't sent someone off the bench.
Just wanted to clarify what you said.
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but the kid that didn't do anything that has to sit for 5 minutes is missing ice time.[/quote]puckulence wrote:/
I would like to make a point on this statement. It is not completely true. It is a calculated risk a coach has to take. If someone has to serve a major penalty for your player you can leave the box empty for as long as you want. You simply need to move a player to the box AT A WHISTLE during the penalty. Then they can come out when the major is over. So if you wait it out and get a whistle with a minute thirty left in the penalty you put a guy in then and he probably doesn't miss a shift.
The risk is if you do not get a whistle to put anyone in the box when the 5 minutes is up to have to play short handed until the next whistle since you can't sent someone off the bench.
Just wanted to clarify what you said.[/quote]
This rule was changed back this year. You now have to put someone in the box for the full 5 minutes.