HP 17 Final 54

deacon64 · Post by **deacon64** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:27 pm

scienceguy wrote:I guess you are from the Twin Cities area. What you say is true for metro players. But those kids from outstate, other than Roseau, this may be their only opportunity to play where there are a number of coaches, scouts etc. These are the kids that are being excluded by the hypocrisy of Minnesota Hockey. Changes need to be made at MN Hockey.

So true. Look at Select 16 only about 5 kids from Northen half of MN selected. Not right!

auld_skool · Post by **auld_skool** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:40 pm

ticktacktonka wrote:My son has also aged out of the Selects. He did always make the 54s, never made the final trip to NY. He is now playing in the USHL with a scholarship offer and will play DIV 1 hockey this Fall. The moral of the story is that this tournament will not matter in the Big picture. Remember Blake Wheeler never made it. Many other talented players get passed by each year. Maybe their name isn't hyped enough, maybe they are late "bloomers" or sadly, maybe they just don't have the right name. Like I said earlier, do it for fun- if you want- not for anything more.

Exactly. If an athlete deserves attention and plays in MN he (or she for that matter) will get looks from people who matter.

BodyShots · Post by **BodyShots** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:08 am

ticktacktonka wrote:My son has also aged out of the Selects. He did always make the 54s, never made the final trip to NY. He is now playing in the USHL with a scholarship offer and will play DIV 1 hockey this Fall. The moral of the story is that this tournament will not matter in the Big picture. Remember Blake Wheeler never made it. Many other talented players get passed by each year. Maybe their name isn't hyped enough, maybe they are late "bloomers" or sadly, maybe they just don't have the right name. Like I said earlier, do it for fun- if you want- not for anything more.

Or jut maybe, mommy and daddy don't have a money tree in the back yard.

BarDown777 · Post by **BarDown777** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:35 pm

http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/roster/show/ ... ason=72226

Brodzinski listed as 5'1'' 190 lbs

that made me chuckle

Gems · Post by **Gems** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:17 pm

When is the roster posted for the national camp?

Gems · Post by **Gems** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:22 pm

...and how many players advance?

mghockey18 · Post by **mghockey18** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:23 pm

Gems wrote:...and how many players advance?

Should be posted Thursday. Typically with the 17's they choose 5-6 D, 9-12 forwards, and 2 goalies.

deacon64 · Post by **deacon64** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:08 am

mghockey18 wrote:
Gems wrote:...and how many players advance?
Should be posted Thursday. Typically with the 17's they choose 5-6 D, 9-12 forwards, and 2 goalies.

Should be easy to some up with 20 players. The quality of play and players in the 17's is outstanding! Normally the 16's in the cross over games make it competitive, not this year. Scores from 3 games with 17's dominating all there were 7-3, 6-1 and 10-2.

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:12 am

^^^ I agree. The 16's seemed to have the size advantage in a game I saw, but that was dwarfed by the speed and skill of the 17's. Wasnt even close.

Gems · Post by **Gems** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:10 am

95's have a very deep group of players and will see how deep in the next few years as they mature even more...

hshockeyfan8 · Post by **hshockeyfan8** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:46 pm

mghockey18 wrote:
Gems wrote:...and how many players advance?
Should be posted Thursday. Typically with the 17's they choose 5-6 D, 9-12 forwards, and 2 goalies.

My predictions based off these numbers

D: Brodzinski, Schuldt, Raskob, Gross, Heinrich and Kivlhalme
F: Labosky, Sheehy, Peterson, Bergh, Lindstrom, Kuhlman, Hurley, Hajicek and Moore
G: Shepard, Larson

ManBearPig · Post by **ManBearPig** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:00 pm

Looking at the list posted above, I think there may be only a handful of givens that everyone agrees they should be invited. All of the guys that are committed, plus Kulman and Sheehy would be my guess. Maybe Heinrich.

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:49 pm

Based off of what numbers? How can you possibly go off the 54's alone..?? That ridiculous....

You have to take the whole process. Section tryouts, Festival, 54s and the last season they had....I think that is what they will/should base it off..

Otherwise, why even go through the whole process. Just do (1) weekend and get it over with

Gems · Post by **Gems** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:51 pm

D: Brodzinski, Schuldt, Raskob, Gross, Heinrich and Kivlhalme...Reno, Austin
F: Labosky, Sheehy, Peterson, Bergh, Lindstrom, Kuhlman, Hurley, Hajicek and Moore...Hartley, Brown, Spinner
G: Shepard, Larson, [/quote]

Any of these players deserve to go and probably more...very deep group of players...

Gems · Post by **Gems** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:53 pm

SuperStar wrote:My predictions based off these numbers

D: Brodzinski, Schuldt, Raskob, Gross, Heinrich and Kivlhalme
F: Labosky, Sheehy, Peterson, Bergh, Lindstrom, Kuhlman, Hurley, Hajicek and Moore
G: Shepard, Larson

Based off of what numbers? The 54 tourney alone? You have to take the whole process. Section tryouts, Festival, 54s and the last season they had..My predictions are a bit different...

What are your predictions then SuperStar?

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:57 pm

Not into naming names. But there would be a couple more EP kids on there...

hshockeyfan8 · Post by **hshockeyfan8** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:08 pm

SuperStar wrote:Based off of what numbers? How can you possibly go off the 54's alone..?? That ridiculous....

You have to take the whole process. Section tryouts, Festival, 54s and the last season they had....I think that is what they will/should base it off..

Otherwise, why even go through the whole process. Just do (1) weekend and get it over with

By numbers I simply meant how many players they select, not stats. But I would be interested in seeing your predictions SuperStar

Gems · Post by **Gems** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:09 pm

SuperStar wrote:Not into naming names. But there would be a couple more EP kids on there...

Like I said there are a lot of players deserving and it's a shame some will miss out...

mghockey18 · Post by **mghockey18** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:07 am

National Camp is up. A few surprises for sure. Raskob got absolutely hosed. Kid is committed to UMD and got offered a spot out in Ann Arbor. Minnesota Hockey strikes again!

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:04 am

Very surprising...MN hockey ..WOW

They also had 13 kids from EP and DE in the 54's and only (1) makes the team..? Spinner had a great year and tryout and very much deserves it. Congrats to him ! And Tyler Cline had a great year too- congrats!

Who is Tanner Holmes (G) - Back-up goalie at TRF? Congrats for making it..But he gets the nod over a couple varsity starting goalies who had pretty good year(s) and tryouts - LaCombe, Larson, Shepard or Gerdes. Not knocking the kid, just never heard of him or seen him play

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:28 am

mghockey18 wrote:National Camp is up. A few surprises for sure. Raskob got absolutely hosed. Kid is committed to UMD and got offered a spot out in Ann Arbor. Minnesota Hockey strikes again!

Have no idea how good he is, but apparently the evaluators made their selections based on how well they thought the players performed in the tryouts. So often you read here how their picks are based on name and reputation only, and how they pretty much know who will make the final cut before the tryouts even begin.

flatontheice · Post by **flatontheice** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:37 am

mghockey18 wrote:National Camp is up. A few surprises for sure. Raskob got absolutely hosed. Kid is committed to UMD and got offered a spot out in Ann Arbor. Minnesota Hockey strikes again!

Where is it posted?

Benito Juarez · Post by **Benito Juarez** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:50 am

flatontheice wrote:
mghockey18 wrote:National Camp is up. A few surprises for sure. Raskob got absolutely hosed. Kid is committed to UMD and got offered a spot out in Ann Arbor. Minnesota Hockey strikes again!
Where is it posted?

http://www.minnesotahockey.org/page/sho ... -16-and-17

Lowstickside · Post by **Lowstickside** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:32 am

mghockey18 wrote:National Camp is up. A few surprises for sure. Raskob got absolutely hosed. Kid is committed to UMD and got offered a spot out in Ann Arbor. Minnesota Hockey strikes again!

Raskob played well and surly could have gone. He is a great player, will have a good college career, and has nothing to prove. However, he has never made our MN team and has attented the National Camp each year, even making the Nations Tournament team last year while being cut the same weekend as this year. Why give him a spot when he will be in NY anyway? This actually gets one more MN player there! A win/win for MN.

I think almost all of the "54" players could have been chosen to go to N.Y. from the 95 group. This is a great group of players and I think they have set the bar very high as far as the depth of their age group. I did not see that with the 94 or 96 group.

Good luck and congrats to the team!

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:24 pm

Going back to the goalie pick - I am absolutely miffed and baffled.

How can you pick the goalie with the worst "stats" and very little varsity experience for this team?

Not knocking this kid..Just wondering what MN Hockey was thinking...

These are stats I complied for BOTH the Festival and 54's combined - first to worst order. Goals Against (GA) and GAA - granted there is small difference in shots for each - But not alot

Name GA GAA

LaCombe 9 3.00
Shepard 11 3.53
Gerdes 13 4.20
Larson 13 4.30
Martens 13 4.30
Holmes 17 5.65
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