Private vs. Public

mngopher8
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Re: rcfld

Post by mngopher8 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:25 pm

zamman:<br><br> richfield runs 3 lines=9<br> 5 d =14<br> 1 goalie=15<br> no extras.<br><br>but back to the regular topic i agree with slapshooter its the year after year winning people hate not the actual school. i geuss in this case it happens to be the private schools that produce the best teams. <p></p><i></i>

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St. Cloud Cathedral

Post by 2AhockeyOldTimer » Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:25 pm

St. Cloud Cathedral has 2 kids from outside of St. Cloud that did not go to St. Cloud private schools growing up.<br><br>Bob Durant and Nick Murray<br><br>Durants an ok varsity player<br>I wish i could say the same on the latter. <p>2A</p><i></i>

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Re: Been there done that! Plain and Simple! ..by SS

Post by goldy313 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:51 pm

Slapshooter hit it right on the head...Teams are hated because they are successful, it's cyclical. Holy Angels falls into that category now, but it wasn't long ago that they were a crowd favorite because they <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>chose</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> to play AA. They were the underdog. At times Jefferson, Burnsville, and Edina have been the hated teams, in '89 there were probably 1000 Jefferson fans and 13,000 JM fans, everytime the Jaguars touched the puck they were booed. The whole crowd was all over them all game. Why? Because the State tournament went through a bunch of years where the championship teams came from Edina, Bloomington, Burnsville, or Hill-Murray. When a new school came in they were the crowd favorite. Add to that the crowd generally favors outstate teams to metro teams and you have some hostility towards the privates.<br><br>The crowd likes the underdog, always have always will. Now teams like Moorhead (they generate about as many boo's as AHA) AHA, and Hill generate the boo's. Say Cretin makes the title game this year against Moorhead or Jefferson, I bet you a dollar the majority of the crowd will be behind Cretin. It's just the way it is. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Been there done that! Plain and Simple! ..by SS

Post by SB24 » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:10 am

(This message was left blank) <p>Play another sport if ya dont got what it takes to DangleMcFangle.</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... hs>SB24</A> at: 1/3/06 12:11 am<br></i>

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Re: Been there done that! Plain and Simple! ..by SS

Post by SB24 » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:13 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The only time folks show displeasure towards private is when they win the state tourney<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>They dont dislike all teams that win it. But they do dislike all private teams that win. <p>Play another sport if ya dont got what it takes to DangleMcFangle.</p><i></i>

slapshooter
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Who's they?........YOU??????...by SS

Post by slapshooter » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:29 am

Who's they SB24 ???? YOU ???? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><br><br>S<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> S <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Been there done that! Plain and Simple! ..by SS

Post by SB24 » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:32 am

whos the folks slapshooter?????you????<br> <p>Play another sport if ya dont got what it takes to DangleMcFangle.</p><i></i>

slapshooter
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That's me alright!.......by SS

Post by slapshooter » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:37 am

Well, if the "folks" are the "WINNERS" then yeah, that's <br><br>me alright! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :evil --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/devil.gif ALT=":evil"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :evil --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/devil.gif ALT=":evil"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><br>S<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> S <p></p><i></i>

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And if the "WINNERS" are privates....by SS

Post by slapshooter » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:52 am

And if the "Winners" are privates {AHA} that's me! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>And if the "Winners" are public {W<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> RR<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> AD <br><br>and M<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> RHEAD } that's me too! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :evil --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/devil.gif ALT=":evil"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Everybody knows that! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/grin.gif ALT=" >D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><br>S<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> S <p></p><i></i>

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Re: And if the "WINNERS" are privates....by SS

Post by SB24 » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:02 am

whatever<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>Play another sport if ya dont got what it takes to DangleMcFangle.</p><i></i>

packerboy
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Phobic denial

Post by packerboy » Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:13 am

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packerboy
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Pbobia is real

Post by packerboy » Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:31 am

Slappy, you are right to a degree.People are going to pull for the underdog and against the current "power base". Its only natural. The damn Yankees. <br><br>But there is a dislike of the private and Catholic schools that is different. There is a lot more to it than just "rootin for the underdog" and against the favorite. <br><br>I was around when International Falls couldnt be beat in the '60s and Jefferson in the '90s. People wanted to see them get knocked off for sure but it was different. People accepted those teams for what they were...good. <br><br>They didnt whine about all of the supposed advantages that they had and suggest that they be placed in their own leagues. <br>People didnt sit up in the stands and make up pathetic chants about the Broncos and Jaguars. <br>Its different.<br><br>Join The Crusade. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Pbobia is real

Post by goldy313 » Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:59 am

People have made chants about Edina and Jefferson, it's gone on for years, many of those same chants are now directed at Holy Angels. While some of it is private school, I think more of it is directed at the "wealthy" SW suburbs type teams. <br><br>Cretin is different, yet they are a Catholic school, ever been to a football game at the Dome when they play Eden Prairie? The majority of fans pull for Cretin, even this year against Wayzata there seemed to be a definate Cretin bias in the crowd.<br><br>In the 20 years I've been a season ticket holder teams can be classified in basically 5 ways:<br><br>1)Always loved-Roseau, Grand Rapids, Johnson, So. St. Paul, John Marshall...no matter who they play the crowd will pull for them<br><br>2)Always hated-Jefferson, Edina, Hill-Murray, Burnsville...thought of as "elite" no matter who they play the majority will be against them.<br><br>3)indifferent-Centennial, Eastview, Lakeville....newer schools nobody really has any connection to<br><br>4)love 'em or hate 'em-Elk River, Moorhead, Hastings, Duluth East.....they invoke distinct passions on just about everybody, ususally because of their coach. Probably where I'd put Holy Angels now.<br><br>5)underdogs-Anoka, Cloquet, Sibley, Greenway, Blaine...Usually the crowd gets behind them, but not to the degree of the the first group. Generally thought of as the common mans teams. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Phobia is un-real

Post by Neutron 14 » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:19 am

But there is a dislike of the private and Catholic schools that is different. There is a lot more to it than just "rootin for the underdog" and against the favorite. <br><br>Why is this different than the northern teams/fans hating the city teams/fans? I don't believe tastless chants are limited to the privates.<br><br>I think Slappy has 90% of the answer. It's not privates, It's the winners. Who cares if St. Agnes recruits?<br><br>The other 10% is some percieved injustice that creates the animosity. <p></p><i></i>

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What about the thugs?....by SS

Post by slapshooter » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:42 pm

What about the "thugs" in Warroad and the "recruiting" <br><br>window makers etc....? (See: What about Tony Selvog ? <br><br>in the "best of" forum...)<br><br>The W<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> RRI<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> RS of W<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> RR<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> AD are not a private school<br><br>but the whining that we witnessed about them was <br><br>pretty much the same as it was about the Catholics in <br><br>2002-2003 and even M<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> RHEAD was beeing criticized<br><br>for "recruiting" just like the private school "WINNERS".<br><br>Neutron 14 and goldy313 make excellent observations as <br><br>we all remember those "cake eaters" both green and <br><br>white and "powder blue" from Edina and Jefferson when <br><br>they routinely crushed the competition merrily "WINNING" <br><br>as they went along!<br><br>We all got a kick out of ANOKA because they weren't <br><br>supposed to be in that Championship game in the first <br><br>place and we knew they wouldn't again for a long time!<br><br>It's the teams that WIN most to all of their games that<br><br>some folks love to despise.<br><br>Except for EDINA.<br><br>Folks love to take shots at EDINA whether they win or <br><br>lose it seems.<br><br>Mostly due to Neutron 14's "10% perceived injustice" <br><br>observation.<br><br>packerboy seems to prefer the politically correct <br><br>language description of "phobia" which has recently <br><br>replaced the previous language description known as <br><br>'jealousy' or 'envy' in his quest to provoke the hearts of <br><br>those in possession of lesser IQ's .<br><br>One of the main thrusts of this fine forum has always <br><br>appeared to be directed towards the teams that would <br><br>make the state tourney or at least are in the running <br><br>and any team that falls short of that category is deemed <br><br>as useless at best if mentioned at all.<br><br>Therein lies one of the flaws of the Minnhock faithful and <br><br>keeps the participation by potential posters from many <br><br>schools along with their supporters at bay, limiting this <br><br>fine forums viewership to a mere TEN MILLION or so <br><br>when it could and should be much higher.<br><br>Everybody loves a WINNER !<br><br>And Everybody despises a WINNER!<br><br><br><br>L<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> E, SL<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> PSH<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> TER.<br><br>(...a legend in his <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> wn mind...)<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

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WINNER = SS

Post by slapshooter » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:44 pm

WINNER~~> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <~~WINNER<br><br>S<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> S <p></p><i></i>

packerboy
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the fying cakeaters

Post by packerboy » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:29 pm

I do remember people claiming that the Edina hockey team was flown around the state by NW airlines executive Mr Nyrop because his son Bill was on the team. I am not sure why that made them unbeatable but it was great stuff.<br><br>I acknowledged that a part of it is the "damn Yankees syndrome" BUT there have ony been 4 championships won by the Catholics in AA. HM and AHA each have 2. They have been playing together since the mid 70's. Hardly a dynasty.<br><br>So, I have a hard time equating the Edinas and the Jeffersons with the Catholics and just writting it off to "well, they hate the winners regardless of who they are" <br><br>Say, is it possible that I, packerboy, have a phobia about people having a phobia about private schools? Well now, this changes everything. <br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

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What about HM/Blake and Duluth Cathedral?....by SS

Post by slapshooter » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:38 pm

St. Paul Hill won in '70 and Blake won in '71 and Duluth <br><br>Cathedral won all of 'em in the '60's!<br><br>Oh yeah, that was the other tournament when they said <br><br>that the private school teams couldn't hold a candle to <br><br>the public school teams!<br><br>What was Hill then? They were 40 some and one when <br><br>Blake upset them in the 1971 State Championship game!<br><br>Even then it was pointed out that Blake had a kid who <br><br>was the son of a high ranking government official from <br><br>Minnesota!<br><br>The "Lobster Eaters" beat the "Cake Eaters" that <br><br>year. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><br>S<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> S <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Slappy's back

Post by elliott70 » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:46 pm

The world is right again.<br><br>But did I miss it?<br>Who are the predicted cowplow winners for 2006? <p></p><i></i>

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Stuck on the HILL.....by SS

Post by slapshooter » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:51 pm

Well Elliott70,<br><br>I'll let you know when I get down from this mountain.<br><br>Seems like I've been stuck on this "Hill" fr quite a while <br><br>now.<br><br>The almighty's tryin' to tell me somethin' !<br><br>Hill/stuck....stuck/Hill/....Hill/stuck....hmmmmm <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :x --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/sick.gif ALT=":x"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>I'll get it figured out.<br><br><br><br>S<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> S <p></p><i></i>

packerboy
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Hill out of a mole mountain

Post by packerboy » Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:51 pm

Well SS, right you are on the great teams in the old Independent league. <br><br>So, why do you suppose it was that those teams couldnt play in the public school tournamnet? Hmmm.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

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Because they had their own!....by SS

Post by slapshooter » Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:03 pm

Because they had their own tournament packerboy and <br><br>the public schools were not allowed to play!<br><br>This year they're playin' in the public school tourney but <br><br>they are not allowing any of the public schools to <br><br>win!<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :evil --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/devil.gif ALT=":evil"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><br>S<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> S<br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... shooter</A> at: 1/3/06 3:13 pm<br></i>

BIAFP
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Their own

Post by BIAFP » Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:39 pm

The only way the private schools will win is if they meet Moorhead in the finals! <p></p><i></i>

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Everyone

Post by EREmpireStrikesBack » Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:50 pm

That's a guaranteed win for anyone though...<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls</p><i></i>

packerboy
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Crusader slappy

Post by packerboy » Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:04 pm

That's absolutely, positively correct SS. <br><br>Now, what do you supppose anyone can do about it? <p></p><i></i>

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