Best team to have never won the state tournament

MajinHockey
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Best team to have never won the state tournament

Post by MajinHockey » Sat Jan 18, 2003 11:11 pm

Maybe this is impossible to gauge, but there have to be a few teams that have had great teams and either got tripped up in sections or had a bad state tourney. Or, maybe this is a lame thread and nobody gives a rip, we shall soon see. <p></p><i></i>

jr
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best to not win?

Post by jr » Sat Jan 18, 2003 11:46 pm

There are probably endless teams that could fit in this category. I have a group that was pretty impressive that never made it to the State Tourney.<br><br>1978 International Falls team: 11 D-1 players, 3 NHL, and 2 Olympians.<br><br>Goalie: Bob Mason, UMD, NHL, 84 Olympic Team, Wild Coach<br><br>Goalie: Dave Laurion, Notre Dame, US Olympic Festival<br><br>Forward: Gary Sampson, Boston College, 84 Olympic Team, NHL<br><br>Forward: Mike Bolstad, Providence<br><br>Forward: Steve Reyes, Illinois Chicago Circle<br><br>Forward: Bill Mason, UMD<br><br>Forward: Tom Herzig, UMD<br><br>Forward: Gene Rohl, Air Force<br><br>Defense: Todd Paveleck, Ferris State<br><br>Defense: Bruce Raboin, Providence<br><br>Forward/Defense: Neil Sheehy, Harvard, NHL, US Olympic Festival<br><br>There were also 3 other players that played D-2 or 3 hockey on this squad. This team played in one of the best games I have ever witnessed in Roseau. Roseau won 4-3 when Neal Broten scored from his waist late in the game to win it.<br><br>77 Team had Kevin Constantine in net and they lost a thriller to Rapids. Constantine played at RPI, NHL, and later coached Pittsburgh, San Jose, and New Jersey.<br><br>79 team was loaded as well but Jon Casey had 40 some saves in the region final to ice it for Rapids.<br><br>I know there are plenty of other teams that were great that could easily make a claim for this one.<br> <p></p><i></i>

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St. Cloud Apollo...99'

Post by MNfan » Sun Jan 19, 2003 1:06 am

I would say another good team that never made it to the state tounament would have to be St. Cloud Apollo. The odds were defantly against them. Having the Rams from Roseau having the number one seed in the state almost the whole season. Apollo came into this game ignoring all the headlines. Although Roseau was able to prove themselves worthy, as they came out with the win 2-1 in OVERTIME. What if Apollo would have won that game. Would they have been the State champs. I do believe Roseau walked threw the entire state Tournament beating Hastings For the crown 4-0. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Spuds

Post by Videoscout » Sun Jan 19, 2003 3:30 am

I personally thought the 1994 Moorhead Spuds were the best team in Minnesota that year.<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> - "... but Petey may disagree!" <p></p><i></i>

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Best Team to never win..Henry Boucha...WW...by SS..

Post by slapshooter » Sun Jan 19, 2003 3:35 am

That would have to be the Warroad Warriors of 1969 <br><br>when Edina 'Cheap Shotted Henry Boucha out of the <br><br>Championship game back in '69 and stole the <br><br>championship in doing so.<br><br> L<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> E SL<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> PSH<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> TER.<br><br>(...a legend in his <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> wn mind...) <p></p><i></i>

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Elk River

Post by eaglesNhuskiesfan » Sun Jan 19, 2003 1:05 pm

The 2000 squad with Paul Martin that loss to Osseo in section semis was also a very good team. A top two team the entire season and #1 when they lost. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Elk River

Post by DB33Three » Sun Jan 19, 2003 4:27 pm

I agree with Elk River as well as the #2 team in state that year Eden Praire lost to Edina that year in like 5 or 4 OT's It made for a surprise team like Blaine to win state that year. I wonder if that has ever happened before when both the #1 and #2 team in state both didnt make it that was a wacky year. <p></p><i></i>

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Best program

Post by DB33Three » Sun Jan 19, 2003 10:40 pm

Best program to never win state has to bee Moorhead how many state title games no championships i dont think there are any arguments here. <p></p><i></i>

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SSP

Post by ladybyng » Sun Jan 19, 2003 10:58 pm

How can a team with 27 appearances have absolutely no state titles. I'll tell you why, section assignments. Lets face it, tourney appearances can be handed to you. Sections are always lobsided. Southern sections have traditionally been weak, with the middle of the state coming in a close second.<br><br>South St. Paul has had some very good teams. But not 27 tourney appearances worth. Imagine, Holy Angels accomplished last season in their second appearance what South St. Paul has failed to do in 27 tries. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: SSP

Post by petey1321 » Mon Jan 20, 2003 12:41 am

I think my favorite stat like that is White Bear's remarkable record of futility in first round games. I think it's 0-15 or something like that (not counting WB Mariner).<br><br>Also, I was at that EP-Edina game, and that was just awesome. Those EP fans were chanting "season's over" at Edina with 10 seconds left and a face off in their own zone. I bet they wish they hadn't, because the Edina guy had just a beautiful snipe from the point. I think it was Heigl, but it's been awhile, so I'm not positive. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Best team to have never won the state tournament

Post by Ram Hockey » Mon Jan 20, 2003 2:03 am

The undefeted 1978 Roseau Rams lost to Edina East in the semi's 2-0. This team was loaded with talent. Aaron, Neal and Butsy all had over 100 points that year.<br><br>The 1977 team wasn't bad either coming in undefeated also but lost to Edina East in the first round. <p>Ram Hockey</p><i></i>

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Re: Best team to have never won the state tournament

Post by WarriorFan01 » Mon Jan 20, 2003 4:18 am

I can't recall the exact year, but in the late 80's (86-87-8<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... lasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> Back with Larry Olimb and Chad Erickson, Warroad went undefeated and got insanely upset by Moorhead in the first (i belive) round of the section tournament. <p></p><i></i>

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Best not to win

Post by rustyblade » Mon Jan 20, 2003 8:51 am

I will say the 1960 Roseau team not even going to state was a "shocker." Runner-up in '57, Champs in'58, Champs in '59, undefeated through '60 'til they were upset by Warroad in the semis of the region. Warroad did not go to state that year. Roseau were Champs again in '61. <p></p><i></i>

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Best not to win

Post by joe lulic » Mon Jan 20, 2003 9:32 am

Warroad and So St Paul come to mind as the two best programs not to win the AA championship. <br>As far as teams go,the 1973 SSP team was undefeated and returned a lot of guys from a very good team that went to state the year before and was very competitive there. They were ranked #1 all year in the polls but got beat by Sibley in the section finals. <p></p><i></i>

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Best of the rest

Post by joe lulic » Mon Jan 20, 2003 11:08 am

ladybyng, There is more to the SSP story than a weak section. Sure, they have had teams that would not make the tournament in a stronger section and that werent one of the best eight in the state. They have had teams, not many, that were good enought to win it that just didint. It is a single elimination tournament with excellent competition and it is hard to win three in a row unless you are clearly the best. They had a good program, good numbers,good coaching and Wakota arena. But from Doug Woog to Phil Housley and others , they couldnt get it done. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Best of the rest

Post by JLS 81 » Mon Jan 20, 2003 4:03 pm

Grand Rapids 1978 Lost to Edina in overtime. Scott Klienendorst game winning shot went in but a missed call negated the goal. That one hurt real bad. <p></p><i></i>

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Why Warroad?

Post by Green and White Fan » Mon Jan 20, 2003 5:08 pm

I am curious why you would say Warroad has one of the best programs to not win a AA title. When you look back on it, what brings you to that conclusion. Just curious. <p></p><i></i>

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One of the best not to win

Post by afguy44 » Sun Jan 26, 2003 6:43 am

The 1987 Greenway squad should probably be mentioned. That group was successful all the way back to peewees. They won the national silver stick tourney. The got beat by a very good Bloomington Kennedy team (who Greenway beat earlier in the year in Bloomington) in a very good game in the semis and then beat Warroad for third but against Kennedy it could have gone either way I really enjoyed those two games. <p></p><i></i>

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Elks

Post by jpuck » Sun Jan 26, 2003 12:57 pm

2000 Elks-<br>Upset by Osseo in double overtime in sections, had beat blaine 7-1 a week before sections and Blaine wins the State Tournament. Elk River goes on to win the State Tournament in 2001 with a less talented team(but still very good) by beating Moorehead 8-1 in the Championship game. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Best team to have never won the state tournament

Post by mnmoon » Sun Jan 26, 2003 3:34 pm

The 1995 Jefferson squad had Parrish, Peterson, and Clymer (all NHL players) along with DeWolf, M. Anderson, R. Trebil and S. Ludwig who were D1 players themselves. If I remember correctly they lost in the semis to Duluth East in overtime (I may be wrong). <p></p><i></i>

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Best team never

Post by Major » Sun Jan 26, 2003 3:38 pm

Would have to be many Warroad teams before the two tier deal as they never have won "THE" Tournament! <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Best team to have never won the state tournament

Post by ogelthorpe7 » Sun Jan 26, 2003 11:41 pm

i had an uncle who played on the 69 warroad team. and from the stories that he has told me and from what my grandparents tell me, they were one of the best teams that warroad has ever had. they tell me that the game against edina was unreal. they say that everyone was on warroads side because they were such and under dog. my uncle was the one who hit the pipe and then edina came down and scored, all i can say is that i am proud to have had my uncle make warroad proud and to have him be part of the legacy that the 69 warroad team has. they had a whole crew of great players on that team and they were very close to taking the show. my uncle then went on to have a great career at BSU. way too go !!!!!!!! <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Best team to have never won the state tournament

Post by Videoscout » Mon Jan 27, 2003 12:30 am

You've been hang'in at Franks Bar too much...<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> - "...and if you have... you better listen to old Frank!" <p></p><i></i>

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got that right! by SS....Boucha was the 'Big Show'

Post by slapshooter » Mon Jan 27, 2003 1:04 am

Got that right Vide<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> Sc<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ut!<br><br>In '69 it was Boucha that got them to the 'Big Show' and <br><br>when Boucha was removed from the 'Big Show' Warroad <br><br>could do nothing. <br><br>I don't remember Warroad being "underdogs' as long as <br><br>Henry was on the ice with a stick in his hand. We all <br><br>knew that they would win it all until the cheap hit. <br><br>That tournament had a state wide audience, albeit no <br><br>state wide television coverage, that was populated by <br><br>more people than would have been otherwise because of <br><br>Henry Boucha and Henry Boucha alone. People travelled <br><br>from all over to attend that tournament with great <br><br>anticipation at the prospect of seeing Henry Boucha in <br><br>action. At the moment of his misfortune a dark cloud <br><br>hung over all parties involved and even Edina who ended <br><br>up with the crown could not have been happy with the <br><br>resulting backlash. <br><br>HENRY BOUCHA was more than just admired. <br><br>He was truly loved that year and considered by many to <br><br>be a state treasure. Especially by those who had either <br><br>faced him in direct competition as well as those that <br><br>were blessed to see his brilliance first hand.<br><br> L<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> E, SL<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> PSH<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> TER.<br><br>(...a legend in his <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> wn mind...) <p></p><i></i>

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Re: got that right! by SS....Boucha was the 'Big Show'

Post by Videoscout » Mon Jan 27, 2003 1:08 am

Ole Slapshooter ... are we to understand that you and Frank Krahn have similiar philosophies on Warroad dominance in the late 1960's?<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> - "I demand a response!" <p></p><i></i>

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