most hated team in state

gordo13
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most hated team in state

Post by gordo13 » Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:18 pm

how is the most hated team in state that no one wants to see win <p></p><i></i>

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Re: most hated team in state

Post by hockeyiscool » Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:21 pm

Maybe Eden Prairie or Holy Angels, Not sure why but it's just how it is. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: most hated team in state

Post by BearCheer » Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:21 pm

WARROAD<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> i want to see them fall right on their ass this year!! <p></p><i></i>

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Edina

Post by HockeyFan2004 » Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:34 pm

Edina or Duluth East <p></p><i></i>

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Hated teams

Post by petey1321 » Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:15 pm

The most hated team in the state changes pretty regularly. I'd say that it's most often the South/SW Metro team that seems to be doing the best at the time. For instance, Edina has always been hated as the cake eaters, but nobody would care how rich they are if they stunk. For awhile there, Jefferson had 4 sections of people cheering for it at the state tournament while the rest of the arena cheered for whoever they were playing, including Duluth East. Now that the Jags aren't as dominant (but really, who is?), you see more people ragging on EP and Holy Angels. For some reason, this animus doesn't extend eastward, as I can't recall this 4 section phenomenon occuring for Hill-Murray or Roseville or White Bear. I'm reluctant to say that it's a perceived money thing, but in some ways it seems to be. Nobody likes to see the "rich kids" winning, even if "rich" is a loosely defined term. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: most hated team in state

Post by HBK 15 » Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:35 pm

it has to be all private schools<br><br>you cant hate the public schols because they actually grow their own talent, develop their kids and play with what they have but the private schools (plus warroad) just recruit kids <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... ns/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: most hated team in state

Post by newkidonblock » Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:36 pm

Has to be Edina or Hill-Murray. I remember being at the 1988 Championship game between those two teams with my friends. We couldn't decide whom to cheer for, so we booed the entire game. <p></p><i></i>

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most hated up north

Post by gr19 » Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:13 pm

East is the most hated up north. Everyone I've talked to up north, the range, cloquet fans, etc., hate East and everyone cheers for the team playing against them. They recruit like Warroad. Their fans seem to think they are superior to everyone else cuz they live in a bigger city, and have this illusion they are richer and this makes them more important individuals. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: most hated up north

Post by Thehockeyplaya » Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:18 pm

I'm more from Central Mn Gr19 but from what I have read on the board and heard from various people isn't Duluth Marshall hated pretty bad up north? Also is there a reason they don't play some of the better competition from up north I mean for 1 game they go to Rochester wouldn't it just be easier for them to play a team of that caliber from up north. But with the subject I heard they are hated pretty bad up north. True??or not? <p></p><i></i>

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roseville is most hated

Post by bkone15 » Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:19 pm

k whoever wrote the thing about the private schools and recruiting is obviously just one of those stupid public school kids whose team hasnt gone anywhere and most likely because a private school beat them. kids at private schools go there cuz they actually care about an education along with playing hockey because if they arent smart enough then they end up transferring. so i would say roseville is most hated because they are trashy kids who are the cheapest to play against and look for any excuse for why they lose. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: most hated team in state

Post by Lucky hockey13 » Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:21 pm

I agree bear cheer ask anyone up north and they would love to see Warroad melt away like ice. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: warroad and private schools recruiting

Post by HBK 15 » Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:24 pm

hahahahaha they care about an education<br>what is wrong with getting a normal education at a normal school<br><br>p.s. i was honestly laughing out loud reading about the education thing that was a good one <p></p><i></i>

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glad i gave you some humor

Post by bkone15 » Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:33 pm

nothings wrong with an education at a public school. unless you care about what kind of college youre going to if youre not gonna play hockey all your life which i guarantee 99% of mn highschool hockey players wont. plus, hockey players want to go to a public school like hill-murray or holy angels. they want to play for a team that always does well every year. not everybody grows up in an area that produces great hockey. they have to go somewhere to play the hockey they want to. i grew up in the st paul johnson area. didnt want to play for that high school because i wanted to play for a great team like hill. and nobody on our team was recruited. interesting isnt it? just like ignorant public school kids to cry about the private schools being better. sorry you dont have enough money to attend one. <p></p><i></i>

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Cake eatter

Post by MNfan » Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:50 pm

Bkone, "Sorry, you don' have enough money to attend one". Thats exactly why people up north give the the name "cake eatters". Your better because you have money, Correct?<br><br><br>Hill-Murry recruits or do whatever they do, and they still don't produce strong teams year in and year out. Take Roseau for instance, Their enrollment is 360 and yet theychoose to play AA with the "cake eattters" and then the private school boys go home complaining how the public schools are beating up on them.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: glad i gave you some humor

Post by HBK 15 » Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:50 pm

there doesnt seem to be anything wrong with my public school education.<br><br>but i suppose you rich folk like to think your superior just because your daddy has money and puts you into private schools <br><br>im still laughing <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Most Hated

Post by AngusYoung » Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:56 pm

On the big school side, it would have to be the Edina Hornets or the West Bloomington Jaguars. I have yet to attend a game @ the Big Show and see even 1/3 of the fan base cheer for either squad no matter who they play. It sure does not seem to bother the teams or their fans, however. On the small school side, it seem's like the Warriors from Warroad now hold the title of "most hated" as well as "State Chumps" - funny how these often go hand-in-hand. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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i dont expect to win

Post by bkone15 » Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:58 pm

there are too many public school supporters out there because there arent many private schools so i dont expect to win the argument. but i love the roseau comment. you make fun of hill and then try to brag about how roseau is playing in AA. hill has the same situation. their enrollment isnt that small but its in the hundreds. they should be in class A as well but would never even think about it. cake-eaters. i still love the name. i loved it even more playing in the championship game against holy angels. hearing all the roseville kids making fun of us though they were the ones sitting in the stands watching. keep up the complaints. becuz if it was actually rigged with private schools recruiting people each year then they would be in state championship every year. i dont see that happening. <p></p><i></i>

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hated teams

Post by ifhockey88 » Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:37 pm

hey bkone15, you know why that doesnt happen every year? Because the players in the public school system play with pride. Their representing their towns in the great game of highschool hockey. These kids have heart their not just representing some school, their representing a whole community. They take that hometown pride and put it on the ice to make sure two private school cake eaters arent in the state championship. <br><br>enough said. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: hated teams

Post by newkidonblock » Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:42 pm

or they play with pride for whichever school they open enroll to. <p></p><i></i>

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bkone and ignorance

Post by petey1321 » Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:54 pm

First of all, bkone, the reason you're not going to win this argument has nothing to do with you being outnumbered. A man can win an argument 1 vs. 1 million if he's right, or didn't your history teachers at Hill teach you that? There are several reasons why you won't win this. Specifically, you are remarkably ignorant about the quality of education at various schools. Edina, for instance, consistently ranks as the top school in the state, public or private. For my part, I went to a public school, and I doubt you're going to find many kids at your school going to a better university than I attend. Furthermore, you are entirely uninformed if you think that the reason people stay in public school is because their parents can't afford otherwise. Any private school worth its salt provides financial aid, on the one hand, and many people simply choose to stay with their friends on the other. Lastly, you're not going to win this one because your typing and grammar are horrendous. If you want people to think that private schools are some sort of intellectual haven, at least spell out words like "because". It really isn't that difficult to at least seem intelligent, but I guess you didn't learn that one yet.<br><br>As to your comment about the Roseau situation being the same as the Hill-Murray situation, your objection is laughable. Roseau has 300 some kids in its school district, while Hill-Murray has several thousand kids in the area to choose from. Any kid in the St. Paul area, particularly the Catholic kids, know that they have the chance to play at Hill-Murray if they're good enough. You might have 300 some kids at your school, but your admissions department had hundreds more than that to choose from; Roseau's, of course, did not.<br><br>As for your championship game experience, I hate to break it to you, but most people that I know were cheering for you. AHA has completely supplanted Hill-Murray as the private school to be reckoned with, and anybody at that game knew it and cheered for the decided underdog: you. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: bkone and ignorance

Post by newkidonblock » Thu Dec 18, 2003 11:24 pm

petey - You are awesome. Second, I had a few friends who graduated from Roseville High School, one of the feeder programs for Hill-Murray. It would be interesting to see what the Roseville teams would have been like without Hill being nearby. Sigh. <p></p><i></i>

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hated teams

Post by puck4ever » Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:31 am

People say that private schools are the most hated teams in the state. For the most part they are, but not just because they recruit players. Look at Warroad, are you telling me they don't recruit. Thats an incredible lie. I have friends that received offers to play there, their parents were even offerred jobs at Marvin Windows or whatever that is up there. Last time i checked Warroad wasn't private. Up in the northland, Duluth Marshall is a hated team and for good reason. Duluth schools have lost competitiveness over recent years primarily because all the good players are going to Marshall. Brandon Johnson from Denfeld, Scotty Paul from East to name a couple. Yeah the education is probably better at these schools, i wish i would have gone to one, but recruiting is out of place in high school hockey. high school sports are not only to become great athletes, but to become great people. Hockey isn't going to be life for the great majority of kids, so why make the only important thing in high school? Let kids go to school with friends their whole life and have success that is earned, not bought. Therefore, schools that recruit should be most hated, not just private schools. I dont care, make a special class for private schools, not single or double A, private. let them battle over who can recruit better, and leave the real hockey for those who work and earn it themselves, the way its meant to be played. <p></p><i></i>

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Most Hated

Post by JD0004 » Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:15 am

The teams mentioned as most hated: EP, Jefferson, AHA, Hill, East, Edina. Hmm...what do they all have in common? I'll answer my own question. They are all outstanding hockey programs, period. They also have class. I guess if that's the criteria for being hated, well then I would like to be part of a "hated" program. If that doesn't work; you can always use the cake eater insult, because after all being financially successful is something to be ashamed of. <br><br>I would have to stray from the group with my category of Most Hated. I hate the teams that don't have class. Teams who's players, coaches, and fans don't have an ounce of sportsmanship or respect for their opponents. None of the teams named above fall into that category. <p></p><i></i>

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Puck4Ever

Post by JD0004 » Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:25 am

"Duluth schools have lost competitiveness over recent years primarily because all the good players are going to Marshall."<br><br>I hope you were kidding. Some very good East players have gone to Marshall...this is true. Most of Marshall's line up consists of what would be East players, but by no means has that had a negative effect over hockey in Duluth. <br><br>East is still a power, and Marshall will come on in the next few years. I guess that shows the volume of quality players being developed on the East side of Duluth.<br><br>On the other hand, Marshall has had a significantly lesser impact on the other two high school hockey programs in Duluth (Central and Denfeld). The problem there lies with their youth hockey program. Have they lost competitiveness, ABSOLUTELY. Is it because of Marshall, ABSOLUTELY NOT. <p></p><i></i>

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Disliked Teams

Post by BIAFP » Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:48 am

Hate is a pretty strong word for High School athletes. The two teams I think most hockey fans in the state would like to see get beat out in sectional play would be AHA and Warroad. They both recruit and their fans have a "better than everyone else attitude." <p></p><i></i>

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