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Sections!
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:15 am
by MNHockeyFan
Looks like the coaches will begin the seeding process as early as Sunday, February 5th with games getting underway as early as Monday the 6th.
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/showsection.asp?actnum=460
Some handy references to get an idea of each team's strength by section, with both to be updated after regular season play comes to a close:
http://www.minnesota-scores.net./classs ... 10&class=3 (Class AA)
http://www.minnesota-scores.net./classs ... 10&class=2 (Class A)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC_20170129.htm
Looking at just KRACH as of Friday morning, here are the highest rated teams by section:
1AA - Lakeville South
2AA - Eden Prairie
3AA - Eagan
4AA - Hill-Murray
5AA - Maple Grove
6AA - Edina
7AA - Elk River/Zimmerman
8AA - Brainerd/Little Falls
1A - Red Wing
2A - Delano/Rockford
3A - Mankato East
4A - St. Paul United
5A - Blake
6A - Alexandria
7A - Proctor/Hermantown
8A - Warroad
As always some sections will be more competitive than others, and upsets are inevitable.
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:16 pm
by nu2hockey
Yep, the 1st quarterfinal game is Feb 7 sec3A..I will put up the secrional contest this weekend
It is interesting to look at the differences between KRACH and QRF
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:03 am
by MNHockeyFan
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:18 am
by MNHockeyFan
As of 9AM Monday, just three sections that remain to be seeded in each class...
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:18 am
by nu2hockey
MNHockeyFan wrote:As of 9AM Monday, just three sections that remain to be seeded in each class...
Plz note that sec 6A isn't scheduled to vote until Feb 8 with the games starting the NEXT DAY...
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:54 am
by MNHockeyFan
nu2hockey wrote:MNHockeyFan wrote:As of 9AM Monday, just three sections that remain to be seeded in each class...
Plz note that sec 6A isn't scheduled to vote until Feb 8 with the games starting the NEXT DAY...
6A coaches must have moved the date up, as it's now posted!
8AA also added to my post above.
As of noon Monday just four sections outstanding, two in each class.
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:58 am
by nu2hockey
MNHockeyFan wrote:nu2hockey wrote:MNHockeyFan wrote:As of 9AM Monday, just three sections that remain to be seeded in each class...
Plz note that sec 6A isn't scheduled to vote until Feb 8 with the games starting the NEXT DAY...
6A coaches must have moved the date up, as it's now posted!
8AA also added to my post above.
As of noon Monday just four sections outstanding, two in each class.
It makes more sense than to vote the day before...travel is necessary in 6A
And 8AA may be the most fun because nearly everyone can beat each other....
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:05 pm
by Rocketwrister
Heard section 7AA seedings are final:
1. ER
2. Forest lake
3. GRG
4. Andover
5. Cambridge
6. CEC
7. St. Francis
8. Duluth
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:32 pm
by MNHockeyFan
Now only three sections that haven't been seeded: 4A, 5AA & 6AA.
See third post in this thread which is being continuously updated.
Sections!
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:53 pm
by notahockeyguy
6AA is out hit drop down at top of page
Edina
CDH
HopkinsPark
Wayzata
BSM
North Metro
Armstrong Cooper
Re: Sections!
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:44 pm
by MNHockeyFan
notahockeyguy wrote:6AA is out hit drop down at top of page
Edina
CDH
HopkinsPark
Wayzata
BSM
North Metro
Armstrong Cooper
Thanks, notahockeyguy. Section 4A has also been filled in, with the only problem being it's the seedings and results from last year...I will ignore until the new 2017 seeds have been posted.
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:48 pm
by nu2hockey
Hey , you might re-check sec 4A...I only see last year's bracket
I wonder if 5AA is waiting until after Tues games ?
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:53 pm
by MNHockeyFan
nu2hockey wrote:Hey , you might re-check sec 4A...I only see last year's bracket.
Just noticed that and have edited my post.
nu2hockey wrote:I wonder if 5AA is waiting until after Tues games ?
Good point, very possible.
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:05 pm
by cjmhockey19
Section 4A seeds tomorrow
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:51 pm
by old goalie85
how many years in a row has Elk River been #1 ?
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:07 am
by goaline
old goalie85 wrote:how many years in a row has Elk River been #1 ?
Since 2011 I think, unless that State Consolation Andover team from a few years got the 1 seed
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:13 am
by goaline
goaline wrote:old goalie85 wrote:how many years in a row has Elk River been #1 ?
Since 2011 I think, unless that State Consolation Andover team from a few years got the 1 seed
Yep, 2014
http://net.minnesotasportsonline.com/br ... 3&yid=1314
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:27 am
by alcloseshaver
Curious how they determined Blaine as the 1 seed over Maple Grove?
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:39 am
by nu2hockey
alcloseshaver wrote:Curious how they determined Blaine as the 1 seed over Maple Grove?
Maybe MG loses to HM, Blaine ties HM,beyond that I don't know, or that Blaine has 1 fewer loss (19-4-1VS 19-3-2)
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:52 am
by MNHockeyFan
With the seeding of 5AA (link now added to 3rd post in the thread) only 4A is TBD.
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:19 pm
by Lace'emUp
alcloseshaver wrote:Curious how they determined Blaine as the 1 seed over Maple Grove?
The majority of the rankings say Maple Grove should've been given the #1 seed. I know, it's virtually apples to apples, so who cares, right? The difference is #1 gets the bye and plays the winner of SLP and Rogers. #2 most likely will have to go through #3 Centennial to get to the finals. With that, the Maple Grove folks are probably not too happy. Here's why:
Maple Grove is ranked #3 by the coaches, #2 by KRACH, #2 by QRF, and #4 by LSQ (all AA rankings). Their KRACH schedule was 9th toughest.
Blaine is ranked #4 by the coaches, #4 by KRACH, #5 by QRF, and #2 by LSQ. Their KRACH schedule was 18th toughest.
Maple Grove has nice wins against #6 Elk River, #5 Eden Prairie, #8 Centennial, #7 Minnetonka, #9 Lakeville South, and #2 Breck. Losses to #1 Edina (twice) and #2 Hill Murray, with the tie on Saturday against Blaine. They were 6-3-1 against current top 9 teams. 7 of those 10 games were on the road.
Blaine was 4-2-2 against the top ranked teams. Beat #4 Proctor/Hermantown, #8 Centennial (twice), and #6 Elk River. Lost to #1 Blake and #6 Elk River. Tied #2 Hill Murray and Maple Grove. 4 of those 8 games were on the road.
The only explanation for dropping Maple Grove down was their recent 1-0 loss to SLP/CR. It's that, or the coaches strictly went with the LSQ rank. To me, Maple Grove should've edged out Blaine for that top spot. In 10 days we'll see how smart the coaches were with their decision.
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:48 pm
by MNHockeyFan
Section 4A is now linked above in the 3rd post of this thread. HOWEVER, upon closer examination, someone forgot to put the seed numbers next to the teams!
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:02 pm
by MNHockeyFan
Re: 4A here's what it appears to be, feel free to chime in.
#1 St. Paul United (bye) - plays the winner of:
#4 Simley and
#5 Henry Sibley
#3 Mahtomedi vs.
#6 Minnehaha Academy
#2 South St. Paul vs.
#7 St. Paul Blades
Agree? Disagree
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:14 pm
by thegreatone99
Lace'emUp wrote:alcloseshaver wrote:Curious how they determined Blaine as the 1 seed over Maple Grove?
The majority of the rankings say Maple Grove should've been given the #1 seed. I know, it's virtually apples to apples, so who cares, right? The difference is #1 gets the bye and plays the winner of SLP and Rogers. #2 most likely will have to go through #3 Centennial to get to the finals. With that, the Maple Grove folks are probably not too happy. Here's why:
Maple Grove is ranked #3 by the coaches, #2 by KRACH, #2 by QRF, and #4 by LSQ (all AA rankings). Their KRACH schedule was 9th toughest.
Blaine is ranked #4 by the coaches, #4 by KRACH, #5 by QRF, and #2 by LSQ. Their KRACH schedule was 18th toughest.
Maple Grove has nice wins against #6 Elk River, #5 Eden Prairie, #8 Centennial, #7 Minnetonka, #9 Lakeville South, and #2 Breck. Losses to #1 Edina (twice) and #2 Hill Murray, with the tie on Saturday against Blaine. They were 6-3-1 against current top 9 teams. 7 of those 10 games were on the road.
Blaine was 4-2-2 against the top ranked teams. Beat #4 Proctor/Hermantown, #8 Centennial (twice), and #6 Elk River. Lost to #1 Blake and #6 Elk River. Tied #2 Hill Murray and Maple Grove. 4 of those 8 games were on the road.
The only explanation for dropping Maple Grove down was their recent 1-0 loss to SLP/CR. It's that, or the coaches strictly went with the LSQ rank. To me, Maple Grove should've edged out Blaine for that top spot. In 10 days we'll see how smart the coaches were with their decision.
Centennial will win this section, so the whiners can stop complaining about seedings. Man-up MG and play the game.
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:45 pm
by Lace'emUp
thegreatone99 wrote:Lace'emUp wrote:alcloseshaver wrote:Curious how they determined Blaine as the 1 seed over Maple Grove?
The majority of the rankings say Maple Grove should've been given the #1 seed. I know, it's virtually apples to apples, so who cares, right? The difference is #1 gets the bye and plays the winner of SLP and Rogers. #2 most likely will have to go through #3 Centennial to get to the finals. With that, the Maple Grove folks are probably not too happy. Here's why:
Maple Grove is ranked #3 by the coaches, #2 by KRACH, #2 by QRF, and #4 by LSQ (all AA rankings). Their KRACH schedule was 9th toughest.
Blaine is ranked #4 by the coaches, #4 by KRACH, #5 by QRF, and #2 by LSQ. Their KRACH schedule was 18th toughest.
Maple Grove has nice wins against #6 Elk River, #5 Eden Prairie, #8 Centennial, #7 Minnetonka, #9 Lakeville South, and #2 Breck. Losses to #1 Edina (twice) and #2 Hill Murray, with the tie on Saturday against Blaine. They were 6-3-1 against current top 9 teams. 7 of those 10 games were on the road.
Blaine was 4-2-2 against the top ranked teams. Beat #4 Proctor/Hermantown, #8 Centennial (twice), and #6 Elk River. Lost to #1 Blake and #6 Elk River. Tied #2 Hill Murray and Maple Grove. 4 of those 8 games were on the road.
The only explanation for dropping Maple Grove down was their recent 1-0 loss to SLP/CR. It's that, or the coaches strictly went with the LSQ rank. To me, Maple Grove should've edged out Blaine for that top spot. In 10 days we'll see how smart the coaches were with their decision.
Centennial will win this section, so the whiners can stop complaining about seedings. Man-up MG and play the game.
Centennial is ripe for a big time upset. I can see them knocking off Maple Grove in an OT type game, but can they pull off two big upsets and beat Blaine also? They are 0 for 10 against the top 6 teams (from both AA and A), with their "signatures" wins being at Eagan in December and their come from behind OT win at Andover last Friday. I don't see any other quality wins on the schedule. I guess you can count TRF since they're ranked 10th in single-A, but their overall KRACH is 46th.