What's up with Cloquet hockey??

mnmouth · Post by **mnmouth** » Thu May 11, 2017 8:27 am

So, Dave Esse fires Jamie Langenbrunner off his staff last week. This week, reportedly, assistant Kyle Young resigns on Monday and Esse resigns last night. Not optimal timing for a program on the rise.

Slammer · Post by **Slammer** » Thu May 11, 2017 9:37 am

Jamie Langenbrunner should take over the whole program.

hadenuf · Post by **hadenuf** » Thu May 11, 2017 12:49 pm

Hey Kniven....what's the scoop?
I've got a Hamilton that says it is a parent issue.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Thu May 11, 2017 1:21 pm

hadenuf wrote:Hey Kniven....what's the scoop?
I've got a Hamilton that says it is a parent issue.

Yes. A sad day with Esse and his staff resigning. *sigh

blueblood · Post by **blueblood** » Thu May 11, 2017 8:36 pm

Wow! This team has high aspirations for the coming few seasons.

Post by **karl(east)** » Thu May 11, 2017 9:43 pm

At this point, all I think we can confirm is that Langenbrunner is out; Esse has not officially resigned or been driven out. At this point.

From the start, I was skeptical that Langenbrunner and Esse would stay on rosy terms through Langenbrunner's time as a Cloquet parent--though it has sure blown up quickly.

Neither of these men are the sort who take things lying down, either. We may be in for quite the saga.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Fri May 12, 2017 1:01 am

A tribute to my CEC Lumberjacks hockey. Memories will last a lifetime. It has truely been an honor and privilege serving the kids of Cloquet, Esko, and Carlton since 2012-2013.

https://youtu.be/aMW3EybRXV0

Slammer · Post by **Slammer** » Fri May 12, 2017 8:26 am

kniven wrote:A tribute to my CEC Lumberjacks hockey. Memories will last a lifetime. It has truely been an honor and privilege serving the kids of Cloquet, Esko, and Carlton since 2012-2013.

https://youtu.be/aMW3EybRXV0

Are you going to stop being a fan or what? The program isn't over....

grindiangrad-80 · Post by **grindiangrad-80** » Fri May 12, 2017 10:01 am

I know absolutely nothing about this situation but I have noticed that whenever a team has some up and coming and very talented young players the expectations can take on a whole new life of their own.

Again, I know nothing about this but the pressure in prep sports is much higher today than when I was a kid. It's a different animal.

gitter · Post by **gitter** » Fri May 12, 2017 10:45 am

karl(east) wrote:At this point, all I think we can confirm is that Langenbrunner is out; Esse has not officially resigned or been driven out. At this point.

From the start, I was skeptical that Langenbrunner and Esse would stay on rosy terms through Langenbrunner's time as a Cloquet parent--though it has sure blown up quickly.

Neither of these men are the sort who take things lying down, either. We may be in for quite the saga.

As an alumni and speaking to other alumni, I believe it is true.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Fri May 12, 2017 10:47 am

Slammer wrote:
kniven wrote:A tribute to my CEC Lumberjacks hockey. Memories will last a lifetime. It has truely been an honor and privilege serving the kids of Cloquet, Esko, and Carlton since 2012-2013.

https://youtu.be/aMW3EybRXV0
Are you going to stop being a fan or what? The program isn't over....

I'll always be a fan of the team in purple and Minnesota high schol hockey. Esse asked me to be part of the team in 2012. Esse is stepping down so I am going to as well.

Schotzy · Post by **Schotzy** » Fri May 12, 2017 10:51 am

gitter wrote:
karl(east) wrote:At this point, all I think we can confirm is that Langenbrunner is out; Esse has not officially resigned or been driven out. At this point.

From the start, I was skeptical that Langenbrunner and Esse would stay on rosy terms through Langenbrunner's time as a Cloquet parent--though it has sure blown up quickly.

Neither of these men are the sort who take things lying down, either. We may be in for quite the saga.
As an alumni and speaking to other alumni, I believe it is true.

My understanding, as of last night, no paper work has been submitted. Nothing official until that has happened, and the board has accepted the written resignation.

Wet Paint · Post by **Wet Paint** » Fri May 12, 2017 12:02 pm

Schotzy wrote:
gitter wrote:
karl(east) wrote:At this point, all I think we can confirm is that Langenbrunner is out; Esse has not officially resigned or been driven out. At this point.

From the start, I was skeptical that Langenbrunner and Esse would stay on rosy terms through Langenbrunner's time as a Cloquet parent--though it has sure blown up quickly.

Neither of these men are the sort who take things lying down, either. We may be in for quite the saga.
As an alumni and speaking to other alumni, I believe it is true.
My understanding, as of last night, no paper work has been submitted. Nothing official until that has happened, and the board has accepted the written resignation.

News paper said it is official. Resigned this morning. Will be really interesting to see how this shakes out. They have a talented bunch coming up that I expected to rattle a few cages.

mnmouth · Post by **mnmouth** » Fri May 12, 2017 12:13 pm

http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/sports ... 18-seasons

jacks85 · Post by **jacks85** » Fri May 12, 2017 12:34 pm

kniven wrote:
Slammer wrote:
kniven wrote:A tribute to my CEC Lumberjacks hockey. Memories will last a lifetime. It has truely been an honor and privilege serving the kids of Cloquet, Esko, and Carlton since 2012-2013.

https://youtu.be/aMW3EybRXV0
Are you going to stop being a fan or what? The program isn't over....
I'll always be a fan of the team in purple and Minnesota high schol hockey. Esse asked me to be part of the team in 2012. Esse is stepping down so I am going to as well.

Kniven - as an alum - I respect your decision and would do the same! Tough day for Cloquet hockey.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Fri May 12, 2017 12:52 pm

jacks85 wrote:
kniven wrote:
Slammer wrote: Are you going to stop being a fan or what? The program isn't over....
I'll always be a fan of the team in purple and Minnesota high schol hockey. Esse asked me to be part of the team in 2012. Esse is stepping down so I am going to as well.
Kniven - as an alum - I respect your decision and would do the same! Tough day for Cloquet hockey.

Thank you.

Post by **karl(east)** » Sat May 13, 2017 10:05 am

My take: https://apatientcycle.com/2017/05/13/exit-dave-esse/

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Sat May 13, 2017 10:35 am

karl(east) wrote:My take: https://apatientcycle.com/2017/05/13/exit-dave-esse/

Without knowing all of the inside facts, your article seems insightful and well balanced. Great job as usual.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Sat May 13, 2017 10:41 am

MNHockeyFan wrote:
karl(east) wrote:My take: https://apatientcycle.com/2017/05/13/exit-dave-esse/
Without knowing all of the inside facts, your article seems insightful and well balanced. Great job as usual.

Right on the money Karl. The next 3-5 years were looking very tasty indeed. Nobody knows now though. I predict instability and chaos. Early departures and several coaches coming and going depending on the talent. I once knew somebody who came into a lot of money. Turned the guy/friend his extended family into greedy and unhappy people. His kids I believe are on their 4th mother now. The kids are greatest though. Unconditional love as always. Do their best under the circumstances.

Hermhawkey · Post by **Hermhawkey** » Mon May 15, 2017 9:07 am

Sad, sad, sad. Having been around Esse for many years I think he is a class act. He deserves better. He was on the cusp of getting great players. It would have been exactly what he deserved. Not this.

JL does not belong anywhere near kids. The behavior I have witnessed is exactly what is wrong with the parent coach/legends in their own mind types.
He brings that to a new level. If he is the new coach I would feel very sorry for those great kids and parents.

Slammer · Post by **Slammer** » Mon May 15, 2017 9:41 am

I'm hoping Jamie Langenbrunner is the new coach. It would be good for northern hockey.

jacks85 · Post by **jacks85** » Mon May 15, 2017 10:02 am

Slammer wrote:I'm hoping Jamie Langenbrunner is the new coach. It would be good for northern hockey.

Good for Northern hockey? Meaning good for East, Rapids and everyone else in their section because the jacks would be in the box for bench minors every single game? JL at the helm would not be good for northern hockey or Cloquet hockey. Guessing you are another outsider who is star struck and easily influenced. Just because someone plays in the NHL doesn't mean they are good coaches.

greenwayraider · Post by **greenwayraider** » Mon May 15, 2017 2:51 pm

jacks85 wrote:
Slammer wrote:I'm hoping Jamie Langenbrunner is the new coach. It would be good for northern hockey.
Good for Northern hockey? Meaning good for East, Rapids and everyone else in their section because the jacks would be in the box for bench minors every single game? JL at the helm would not be good for northern hockey or Cloquet hockey. Guessing you are another outsider who is star struck and easily influenced. Just because someone plays in the NHL doesn't mean they are good coaches.

I agree. JL has no control over his temper and would make a former Greenway coach look like a choir boy.

hadenuf · Post by **hadenuf** » Mon May 15, 2017 3:49 pm

greenwayraider wrote:
jacks85 wrote:
Slammer wrote:I'm hoping Jamie Langenbrunner is the new coach. It would be good for northern hockey.
Good for Northern hockey? Meaning good for East, Rapids and everyone else in their section because the jacks would be in the box for bench minors every single game? JL at the helm would not be good for northern hockey or Cloquet hockey. Guessing you are another outsider who is star struck and easily influenced. Just because someone plays in the NHL doesn't mean they are good coaches.
I agree. JL has no control over his temper and would make a former Greenway coach look like a choir boy.

What he said. He should have been banned as a youth coach!

Rocketwrister · Post by **Rocketwrister** » Mon May 15, 2017 4:42 pm

hadenuf wrote:
greenwayraider wrote:
jacks85 wrote: Good for Northern hockey? Meaning good for East, Rapids and everyone else in their section because the jacks would be in the box for bench minors every single game? JL at the helm would not be good for northern hockey or Cloquet hockey. Guessing you are another outsider who is star struck and easily influenced. Just because someone plays in the NHL doesn't mean they are good coaches.
I agree. JL has no control over his temper and would make a former Greenway coach look like a choir boy.
What he said. He should have been banned as a youth coach!

Why? Whatever he was doing the kids responded. The pee wee AA AND Bantam AA teams did very well. Kicked out of 1 arena/ game as a youth coach; it's not like he was all the time as its being portrayed here.