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Who wins on Tuesday in the biggest Class A game of the week?

Poll ended at Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:16 am

Delano
2
20%
Orono
8
80%
 
Total votes: 10

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Class A Rankings 1-7-2018

Post by HShockeywatcher » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:16 am

The first rankings of 2018! Happy New Year!

Not a lot of big changes since last week with only a few surprises, notably Providence Academy 7-1 over Breck and Proctor beating Virginia in OT.

The only matchup of ranked teams this week is Mound Westonka @ Orono on Tuesday.
Lake of the Woods is a great story this year as they are one of two Class A team who hasn't lost to any Class A teams this season. Friday they host Johnson and then travel to East Grand Forks. It seems likely they pick up at least one loss this week, but it would be cool to see them pick up 3 more wins.


1. [1] Hermantown (6-3-2) (2-0)
The Hawks came from behind to beat Cathedral by 1 at home. Two home games they should win this week followed by a trip to Minnetonka. There doesn't seem to be much anyone could do in the short term to take the top spot from them.
This week: Tues vs Grand Rapids, Thurs vs Denfeld, Sat @ Minnetonka

2. [2] Mahtomedi (9-2-1) (6-1)
The Zephyrs kept it close with St Thomas; can they beat a Hill-Murray team they previously tied?
This week: Thurs @ Tartan, Sat vs Hill-Murray

3. [3] Mound Westonka (11-2-1) (9-1-1)
The White Hawks picked up 3 wins this week, including a win over the team who beat Breck this week. Can they keep rolling and beat Orono on the road?
This week: Tues @ Orono, Fri vs New Prague

4. [4] Greenway (11-4) (9-2)
The Raiders won a section game then lost to Holy Family at home. One game this week they should win before they play Hermantown next week.
This week: Tues vs North Shore

5. [5] Orono (7-4-1) (7-1)
The Spartans lost to one of the best AA teams in the state, then won in Delano which puts them into the top 2 in the section. Can they beat Mound Westonka at home this week?
This week: Tues vs Mound Westonka, Fri vs Waconia

6. [7] Delano (6-6) (6-4)
The Tigers lost a close one to Delano last week and they have two AA opponents this week.
This week: Tues @ New Prague, Sat vs Wayzata

7. [9] Minneapolis (9-6) (5-4)
The Novas picked up a win last week. They play one Class A games this week along with a home rematch with a good St Cloud team they beat in the Schwan Cup.
This week: Tues vs St Paul Johnson, Sat vs St Cloud

8. [10] East Grand Forks (7-5-1) (5-3-1)
The Green Wave got shut out by Red River and play them again this week, along with their lone game this season against Lake of the Woods, who haven't lost to a Class A team yet.
This week: Tues vs Grand Forks Red River, Sat vs Lake of the Woods

9. [8] Virginia (10-5) (7-3)
The Blue Devils lost in Proctor then beat Cathedral at home.
This week: Tues @ International Falls, Thurs @ Hibbing

10. [11] Cathedral (10-4) (10-4)
The Crusaders lost close games in both Hermantown and Virginia. Considering the differences of those two, it's really hard to rank them any higher. After Friday's close loss, it was looking like they'd jump quite a bit, but losing to a team who lost to Proctor the night before doesn't bode well. They play Little Falls this week then, St Cloud next week and still have games with 5 teams ranked here. They seem like a team that will cruise through sections and 3 of their 4 losses have all been to teams in the same section, so they control their own destiny for state seeding up to 3, or even 2, at this point.
This week: Thurs vs Little Falls

11. [13] Sartell-St Stephen (9-4) (8-1)
The Sabres beat Alexandria and got crushed by Bemidji. They play 3 very winnable games this week.
This week: Tues vs Fergus Falls, Thurs vs Hutchinson, Sat vs Mankato West

12. [12] Alexandria (5-7-1) (5-5-1)
The Cardinals have a recent win over Greenway, but they are 2-7 in their last 9 games. This seems like a week that they could bring them to .500 and get them back winning.
This week: Thurs vs Willmar, Fri vs Mankato West

13. [6] Breck (3-8) (2-3)
The Mustangs started the week losing to Blake for the first time in 17 matchups then lost to Providence Academy. They are on a 4 game losing streak and it doesn't look like they'll be winning this week.
This week: Sat @ Moorhead

14. [14] Monticello (10-2-1) (9-1)
The Moose lost to a good Buffalo team then picked up a section win. They should be picking up wins over the next couple weeks and probably won't be challenged for a while.
This week: Thurs @ North Branch

15. [-] Warroad (7-6-1) (5-4-1)
The Warriors started the season 0-6 and since are 7-0-1. Can they keep up the winning this week?
This week: Thurs @ Roseau, Sat vs Crookston



Other noteworthy teams:

Fergus Falls (6-5-3) (5-4-3)
This week: Tues @ Sartell, Thurs @ Sauk Rapids

Hibbing (4-7) (2-3)
This week: Thurs vs Virginia

Lake of the Woods (8-1-1) (7-0)
This week: Tues vs Bagley, Fri vs St Paul Johnson, Sat @ East Grand Forks

Little Falls (9-3-2) (7-2-2)
This week: Tues vs River Lakes, Thurs @ Cathedral

Providence Academy (8-5-2) (6-3-1)
This week: Tues vs St Paul Academy

South St Paul (7-4) (3-2)
This week: Thurs @ Henry Sibley, Sat vs Minnehaha Academy
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Post by elliott70 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:23 am

Quote
"The only matchup of ranked teams this week is Delano @ Orono on Tuesday."

I think this game is on Tuesday January 30th.
Orono plays Mound on Tuesday.
They just played Delano on Friday and won 3-2.

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Post by elliott70 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:33 am

Quote
"Lake of the Woods is a great story this year as they are one of two Class A team who hasn't lost to any Class A teams this season. Friday they host Johnson and then travel to East Grand Forks. It seems likely they pick up at least one loss this week, but it would be cool to see them pick up 3 more wins."

This is very exciting for Section 8A.

LOW big games are against their section opponents
at East Grand Forks

Tue, Jan 16
vs. Red Lake Falls

Fri, Jan 19
at Detroit Lakes

Sat, Jan 20
at Thief River Falls

Fri, Jan 26
vs. Park Rapids Area

Thu, Feb 1
at Kittson Central

Fri, Feb 9
at Crookston

Tue, Feb 13
at Warroad

They should/could win their other 5 games and still not get a home game in the first round of play-offs.
They may end up the 5 seed.

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Post by O-townClown » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:44 pm

elliott70 wrote:Quote
"The only matchup of ranked teams this week is Delano @ Orono on Tuesday."

I think this game is on Tuesday January 30th.
Orono plays Mound on Tuesday.
They just played Delano on Friday and won 3-2.
Kind of ruins the poll question. I see Delano lost to Delano as well! (It appears he meant Delano lost to Orono.)

Great work giving attention to Class A hockey.
Be kind. Rewind.

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Post by Stang5280 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:49 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote: 12. [12] Alexandria (5-7-1) (5-5-1)
The Cardinals have a recent win over Greenway, but they are 2-7 in their last 9 games. This seems like a week that they could bring them to .500 and get them back winning.
This week: Thurs vs Willmar, Fri vs Mankato West

13. [6] Breck (3-8) (2-3)
The Mustangs started the week losing to Blake for the first time in 17 matchups then lost to Providence Academy. They are on a 4 game losing streak and it doesn't look like they'll be winning this week.
This week: Sat @ Moorhead
I realize that the bottom of the rankings is a mess and it is hard to even find teams worthy of those slots, but it seems to me that Alex and Breck are not being punished enough for their losses and could easily be dropped out of the top 15 altogether.

Sure, most of Alex’s losses are close ones to teams ranked above them, but at some point you have to win some games and the only notable victory Alex has is the Greenway game. The Cardinals then followed that signature win by being skunked against Virginia and dropping another game against a fairly weak Hibbing squad. The Greenway win looks like more of an aberration at this point.

As for Breck, they are a complete mess right now. Their only significant Class A win was against Delano, which was now over a month ago. Dropping games to Mahtomedi, Orono, and Blake are one thing, but that Providence Academy loss is embarrassing. I would have no objection to putting PA in the rankings ahead of Breck. Things are unlikely to get much better, either, given their remaining schedule.

All in all these are minor quibbles, though, and Class A is nearly impossible to rank outside of the top handful of teams.

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Post by east hockey » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:07 pm

Stang5280 wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote: 12. [12] Alexandria (5-7-1) (5-5-1)
The Cardinals have a recent win over Greenway, but they are 2-7 in their last 9 games. This seems like a week that they could bring them to .500 and get them back winning.
This week: Thurs vs Willmar, Fri vs Mankato West

13. [6] Breck (3-8) (2-3)
The Mustangs started the week losing to Blake for the first time in 17 matchups then lost to Providence Academy. They are on a 4 game losing streak and it doesn't look like they'll be winning this week.
This week: Sat @ Moorhead
I realize that the bottom of the rankings is a mess and it is hard to even find teams worthy of those slots, but it seems to me that Alex and Breck are not being punished enough for their losses and could easily be dropped out of the top 15 altogether.

Sure, most of Alex’s losses are close ones to teams ranked above them, but at some point you have to win some games and the only notable victory Alex has is the Greenway game. The Cardinals then followed that signature win by being skunked against Virginia and dropping another game against a fairly weak Hibbing squad. The Greenway win looks like more of an aberration at this point.

As for Breck, they are a complete mess right now. Their only significant Class A win was against Delano, which was now over a month ago. Dropping games to Mahtomedi, Orono, and Blake are one thing, but that Providence Academy loss is embarrassing. I would have no objection to putting PA in the rankings ahead of Breck. Things are unlikely to get much better, either, given their remaining schedule.

All in all these are minor quibbles, though, and Class A is nearly impossible to rank outside of the top handful of teams.
PageStat has Alex #16 and Breck #17 in Class A. You would think Breck should be lower, given their record, but they've had the 2nd toughest schedule in Class A (according to PageStat)

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Post by Stang5280 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:13 pm

east hockey wrote:
Stang5280 wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote: 12. [12] Alexandria (5-7-1) (5-5-1)
The Cardinals have a recent win over Greenway, but they are 2-7 in their last 9 games. This seems like a week that they could bring them to .500 and get them back winning.
This week: Thurs vs Willmar, Fri vs Mankato West

13. [6] Breck (3-8) (2-3)
The Mustangs started the week losing to Blake for the first time in 17 matchups then lost to Providence Academy. They are on a 4 game losing streak and it doesn't look like they'll be winning this week.
This week: Sat @ Moorhead
I realize that the bottom of the rankings is a mess and it is hard to even find teams worthy of those slots, but it seems to me that Alex and Breck are not being punished enough for their losses and could easily be dropped out of the top 15 altogether.

Sure, most of Alex’s losses are close ones to teams ranked above them, but at some point you have to win some games and the only notable victory Alex has is the Greenway game. The Cardinals then followed that signature win by being skunked against Virginia and dropping another game against a fairly weak Hibbing squad. The Greenway win looks like more of an aberration at this point.

As for Breck, they are a complete mess right now. Their only significant Class A win was against Delano, which was now over a month ago. Dropping games to Mahtomedi, Orono, and Blake are one thing, but that Providence Academy loss is embarrassing. I would have no objection to putting PA in the rankings ahead of Breck. Things are unlikely to get much better, either, given their remaining schedule.

All in all these are minor quibbles, though, and Class A is nearly impossible to rank outside of the top handful of teams.
PageStat has Alex #16 and Breck #17 in Class A. You would think Breck should be lower, given their record, but they've had the 2nd toughest schedule in Class A (according to PageStat)

Lee
I’m not saying that Alex and Breck are terrible teams by any stretch, and it makes complete sense that computer rankings would treat them well given the strength of their schedules. However, at some point an accumulation of “good” losses reaches critical mass and you have to start rewarding teams who are actually winning games, even if against weaker competition. How about Simley, who is 10-3-3 and ranked #12 in PageStat? They don’t even appear in the honorable mentions section. I just have a hard time seeing a 3-8 team ranked, even if it is my alma mater.

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Post by Mite-dad » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:53 pm

Little Falls is 9-3-2

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Post by Schnauzer1 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:03 am

I'm assuming the poll for this thread is actually looking for a vote on the Tuesday game between Westonka and Orono? Section 2A is a grind. A couple current front runners and several more capable of getting hot at playoff time. Section semis or even quarter finals will feel more like some section finals.

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Post by elliott70 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:33 am

Mine at 1/8/18

1 Hermantown 6-3-2
2 Mahtomedi 9-2-1
3 Mound 11-2-1
4 Greenway 11-4-0
5 East Grand Forks 7-5-1
6 St Cloud Cathedral 10-4-0
7 Warroad 7-6-1
8 Virginia 10-5-0
9 Sartell 9-4-0
10 Orono 7-4-1
11 Simley 10-3-1
12 Minneapolis 9-6-0
13 Delano 6-6-0
14 So St Paul 7-4-0
15 Fergus Falls 6-5-3
15 Alexandria 5-7-1
16 Lake of the Woods 8-1-1
17 Little Falls 9-3-2
18 Providence Academy 8-5-2
19 Monticello 10-2-1
20 Hibbing 4-7-0
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Post by Mite-dad » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:07 pm

elliott70 wrote:Mine at 1/8/18

1 Hermantown 6-3-2
2 Mahtomedi 9-2-1
3 Mound 11-2-1
4 Greenway 11-4-0
5 East Grand Forks 7-5-1
6 St Cloud Cathedral 10-4-0
7 Warroad 7-6-1
8 Virginia 10-5-0
9 Sartell 9-4-0
10 Orono 7-4-1
11 Simley 10-3-1
12 Minneapolis 9-6-0
13 Delano 6-6-0
14 So St Paul 7-4-0
15 Fergus Falls 6-5-3
15 Alexandria 5-7-1
16 Lake of the Woods 8-1-1
17 Little Falls 9-3-2
18 Providence Academy 8-5-2
19 Monticello 10-2-1
20 Hibbing 4-7-0
There, fixed it. LOL. Why is it so hard to find the record for this team.

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Post by elliott70 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:19 pm

Mite-dad wrote:
elliott70 wrote:Mine at 1/8/18

1 Hermantown 6-3-2
2 Mahtomedi 9-2-1
3 Mound 11-2-1
4 Greenway 11-4-0
5 East Grand Forks 7-5-1
6 St Cloud Cathedral 10-4-0
7 Warroad 7-6-1
8 Virginia 10-5-0
9 Sartell 9-4-0
10 Orono 7-4-1
11 Simley 10-3-1
12 Minneapolis 9-6-0
13 Delano 6-6-0
14 So St Paul 7-4-0
15 Fergus Falls 6-5-3
15 Alexandria 5-7-1
16 Lake of the Woods 8-1-1
17 Little Falls 9-3-2
18 Providence Academy 8-5-2
19 Monticello 10-2-1
20 Hibbing 4-7-0
There, fixed it. LOL. Why is it so hard to find the record for this team.
From MNSCORES
Fri, Nov 24 at International Falls W 5-3 F
Sat, Nov 25 at Virginia/Mt. Iron-Buhl L 5-3 F
Tue, Nov 28 at Alexandria T 3-3 F/OT

Thu, Nov 30 vs. Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato W 3-2 F
Tue, Dec 5 at Fergus Falls T 3-3 F/OT
Thu, Dec 7 at Wadena-Deer Creek W 8-0 F

Tue, Dec 12 vs. Prairie Centre Area W 9-2 F
Fri, Dec 15 vs. St. Paul Johnson L 3-1 F
Tue, Dec 19 at Northern Lakes W 6-3 F

Wed, Dec 27 vs. West Fargo Sheyenne L 5-4 F
Thu, Dec 28 vs. Willmar W 5-3 F
Fri, Dec 29 vs. North Branch W 3-0 F

Tue, Jan 2 at Becker/Big Lake W 6-3 F
Thu, Jan 4 at Cambridge-Isanti W 5-2 F


What needs correcting?

Won the Cambridge game I see.

I know your coach had a poor HS education but he needs to change MNScores info. Poor education and getting hit in the head with a rubber disk.
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Post by Where is F3? » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:20 pm

Mite-dad wrote:
elliott70 wrote:Mine at 1/8/18

1 Hermantown 6-3-2
2 Mahtomedi 9-2-1
3 Mound 11-2-1
4 Greenway 11-4-0
5 East Grand Forks 7-5-1
6 St Cloud Cathedral 10-4-0
7 Warroad 7-6-1
8 Virginia 10-5-0
9 Sartell 9-4-0
10 Orono 7-4-1
11 Simley 10-3-1
12 Minneapolis 9-6-0
13 Delano 6-6-0
14 So St Paul 7-4-0
15 Fergus Falls 6-5-3
15 Alexandria 5-7-1
16 Lake of the Woods 8-1-1
17 Little Falls 9-3-2
18 Providence Academy 8-5-2
19 Monticello 10-2-1
20 Hibbing 4-7-0
There, fixed it. LOL. Why is it so hard to find the record for this team.
All depends on where you look... Minnesota scores has them at 8-4-2, and hockeyhub has them at 9-3-2. Minnesota scores has them losing their game against Cambridge 5-2, while hockeyhub has them winning that game 5-2.

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Post by Mite-dad » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:44 pm

They won. And I don't doubt the getting hit on the head part. Isn't that true of all old hockey players?

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Post by elliott70 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:26 pm

Mite-dad wrote:They won. And I don't doubt the getting hit on the head part. Isn't that true of all old hockey players?
Especially old goalies (real old in this case) and unfortunately for the Bronoco's he did not get hit enough.

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Post by Mite-dad » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:23 pm

elliott70 wrote:
Mite-dad wrote:They won. And I don't doubt the getting hit on the head part. Isn't that true of all old hockey players?
Especially old goalies (real old in this case) and unfortunately for the Bronoco's he did not get hit enough.
LOL!

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Post by HShockeywatcher » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:52 pm

Mite-dad wrote:Little Falls is 9-3-2
Yup. I believe I added their two wins this week to the loss column instead of the win column. Thanks for pointing it out.
Schnauzer1 wrote:I'm assuming the poll for this thread is actually looking for a vote on the Tuesday game between Westonka and Orono? Section 2A is a grind. A couple current front runners and several more capable of getting hot at playoff time. Section semis or even quarter finals will feel more like some section finals.
Well, I'm on a roll with the mistakes this week. Unfortunately I can't change poll questions at this point :(
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HShockeywatcher wrote: 12. [12] Alexandria (5-7-1) (5-5-1)
The Cardinals have a recent win over Greenway, but they are 2-7 in their last 9 games. This seems like a week that they could bring them to .500 and get them back winning.
This week: Thurs vs Willmar, Fri vs Mankato West

13. [6] Breck (3-8) (2-3)
The Mustangs started the week losing to Blake for the first time in 17 matchups then lost to Providence Academy. They are on a 4 game losing streak and it doesn't look like they'll be winning this week.
This week: Sat @ Moorhead
I realize that the bottom of the rankings is a mess and it is hard to even find teams worthy of those slots, but it seems to me that Alex and Breck are not being punished enough for their losses and could easily be dropped out of the top 15 altogether.

Sure, most of Alex’s losses are close ones to teams ranked above them, but at some point you have to win some games and the only notable victory Alex has is the Greenway game. The Cardinals then followed that signature win by being skunked against Virginia and dropping another game against a fairly weak Hibbing squad. The Greenway win looks like more of an aberration at this point.

As for Breck, they are a complete mess right now. Their only significant Class A win was against Delano, which was now over a month ago. Dropping games to Mahtomedi, Orono, and Blake are one thing, but that Providence Academy loss is embarrassing. I would have no objection to putting PA in the rankings ahead of Breck. Things are unlikely to get much better, either, given their remaining schedule.

All in all these are minor quibbles, though, and Class A is nearly impossible to rank outside of the top handful of teams.
I think the biggest issue is who to replace them with and who they've lost to. Can you point me to someone beyond my top 14 that you'd rank ahead of Breck/Alex?
Also, I definitely agree that the Providence Academy loss looks bad, but it's really just one game. Virginia lost to now 3-10-2 Proctor this weekend and they are still in the top 10. I think kids get to have off games and it's really about the entire body of work. Also, I don't really like the logic of saying that "The Greenway win looks like more of an aberration at this point" while not being able to say the exact same thing about the Breck loss.


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Post by nahc » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:23 pm

Where's Luverne??!!!!

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Post by Stang5280 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:36 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:I think the biggest issue is who to replace them with and who they've lost to. Can you point me to someone beyond my top 14 that you'd rank ahead of Breck/Alex?
Also, I definitely agree that the Providence Academy loss looks bad, but it's really just one game. Virginia lost to now 3-10-2 Proctor this weekend and they are still in the top 10. I think kids get to have off games and it's really about the entire body of work. Also, I don't really like the logic of saying that "The Greenway win looks like more of an aberration at this point" while not being able to say the exact same thing about the Breck loss.
I don’t really see those two things as being a logical disconnect. Yes, the Providence Academy loss was bad, by far Breck’s worst performance of the season. However, It isn’t like the Mustangs have a track record of good results to offset their recent swoon. They only have two wins of consequence, against decent Delano and Buffalo teams. Breck is now up to six blowout losses on the season: Fargo Davies and CDH (understandable); Chaska, STMA, and Blake (pretty good, but not great AA teams); and then the Providence debacle. And the rest of their resume boils down to close losses against Orono and Mahtomedi.

I don’t really see the point of rewarding a team for playing a difficult schedule and continually losing games. At some point you need to pull out some victories, which Breck has not done so far. I realize that Class A is not very deep this year, but I would have no problem putting Simley or Providence Academy toward the end of the top 15.

Sorry to turn this into a Breck rant, but it has been frustrating to follow the team this season after many years of success.

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Post by HShockeywatcher » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:48 pm

Stang5280 wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:I think the biggest issue is who to replace them with and who they've lost to. Can you point me to someone beyond my top 14 that you'd rank ahead of Breck/Alex?
Also, I definitely agree that the Providence Academy loss looks bad, but it's really just one game. Virginia lost to now 3-10-2 Proctor this weekend and they are still in the top 10. I think kids get to have off games and it's really about the entire body of work. Also, I don't really like the logic of saying that "The Greenway win looks like more of an aberration at this point" while not being able to say the exact same thing about the Breck loss.
I don’t really see those two things as being a logical disconnect. Yes, the Providence Academy loss was bad, by far Breck’s worst performance of the season. However, It isn’t like the Mustangs have a track record of good results to offset their recent swoon. They only have two wins of consequence, against decent Delano and Buffalo teams. Breck is now up to six blowout losses on the season: Fargo Davies and CDH (understandable); Chaska, STMA, and Blake (pretty good, but not great AA teams); and then the Providence debacle. And the rest of their resume boils down to close losses against Orono and Mahtomedi.

I don’t really see the point of rewarding a team for playing a difficult schedule and continually losing games. At some point you need to pull out some victories, which Breck has not done so far. I realize that Class A is not very deep this year, but I would have no problem putting Simley or Providence Academy toward the end of the top 15.

Sorry to turn this into a Breck rant, but it has been frustrating to follow the team this season after many years of success.
I guess it's a matter of what you consider "good results" and how important the distinction between "good" and "fine" is.

Breck's season:
-Fargo Davies is 8-0-2.
-Shut out Pine City.
-Breck beat Delano on the road.
-The margin of loss to STMA and Chaska isn't great.
-1 goal loss to Orono who was top 3 at the time.
-Beat Buffalo.
-Lost to CDH by 4. 7 of CDH's wins are by 3, the others are by 4 to Breck, by 7 to Minneapolis (what's your thought on Mpls?) and by 5 to Roseville. So, not a "great loss", but still understandable.
-Lost to Mahtomedi by 2 (Greenway got shut out by them).
-Lost to Blake by 4.
-Bad loss to Providence.

I look at this as a record of good results with two bad losses.
I'm happy agreeing to disagree.


With a Tartan win Simley would've cracked the top 15 this week. But their schedule has nothing impressive on it.

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Post by elliott70 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:11 pm

Mine at 1/8/18 - MODIFIED AT 1-10-2018

1 Hermantown 7-3-2
2 Mahtomedi 9-2-1
3 East Grand Forks 8-5-1
4 Greenway 11-4-0
5 St Cloud Cathedral 10-4-0
6 Orono 7-4-1
7 Mound 11-2-1

8 Warroad 7-6-1
9 Sartell 9-4-0
10 Virginia
11 Simley 10-3-1
12 Minneapolis 9-6-0
13 Delano 6-6-0
14 So St Paul 7-4-0
15 Fergus Falls 6-5-3
15 Alexandria 5-7-1
16 Lake of the Woods 8-1-1
17 Little Falls 9-3-2
18 Providence Academy 8-5-2
19 Monticello 10-2-1
20 Hibbing 4-7-0[/quote]

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Post by hawkeyguy2 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:14 pm

nahc wrote:Where's Luverne??!!!!
You need to go all the way down to 27....

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Post by TTpuckster » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:14 pm

elliott70 wrote:Mine at 1/8/18 - MODIFIED AT 1-10-2018

1 Hermantown 7-3-2
2 Mahtomedi 9-2-1
3 East Grand Forks 8-5-1
4 Greenway 11-4-0
5 St Cloud Cathedral 10-4-0
6 Orono 7-4-1
7 Mound 11-2-1

8 Warroad 7-6-1
9 Sartell 9-4-0
10 Virginia
11 Simley 10-3-1
12 Minneapolis 9-6-0
13 Delano 6-6-0
14 So St Paul 7-4-0
15 Fergus Falls 6-5-3
15 Alexandria 5-7-1
16 Lake of the Woods 8-1-1
17 Little Falls 9-3-2
18 Providence Academy 8-5-2
19 Monticello 10-2-1
20 Hibbing 4-7-0
[/quote]

Good rebound win by the Green Wave last night. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
What is a Green Wave anyway?

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Post by rainier2 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:08 pm

Virginia beats Cathedral and takes Cloquet to the limit, yet they have dropped recent games against Proctor and Hibbing, and tied an I-Falls team they beat 7-1 earlier in the season. These are teams they should beat.

Not sure what's going on with that team. Seems like a lot of standing around watching Seitz try to take over the game. Not his fault, his teammates have to take the initiative also. Power play was mostly the same set up to Seitz over and over, which made it easy for Hibbing to cheat that way and block his shots.

A lot of Virginia players that made all-star teams over the past few years that really aren't doing much at the HS level, reminds me of Cloquet this year.

Plenty of time for them to right the ship, but there is reason for concern.

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