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victor maitland
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Post by victor maitland » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:38 am

Minnesota-Scores QRF - http://www.minnesota-scores.net/classqr ... 09&class=3

1 Edina (19-1) 139.3
T-2 Minnetonka (15-2-2) 130.6
T-2 St. Thomas Academy (16-1-1) 130.6
4 Duluth East (16-1-3) 124.6
5 Cretin-Derham Hall (16-2-1) 119.9
6 Holy Family Catholic (14-3-1) 113.8
7 Eastview (16-4) 113.3
8 Moorhead (16-6) 111.4
9 White Bear Lake (14-3-2) 108.7
10 Rosemount (15-4) 106.6

Page Stat - http://www.minnhock.com/ps2018.htm

1 Edina 6AA
2 St Thomas Academy 3AA
3 Minnetonka 2AA
4 Duluth East 7AA
5 Cretin Derham Hall 6AA
6 Holy Family 2AA
7 Moorhead 8AA
8 White Bear Lake 4AA
9 Andover 7AA
10 Brainerd 8AA

RPI - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... la/pubhtml

Rank Section Team RPI SOS
1 6AA Edina 0.690 0.602
2 2AA Minnetonka 0.685 0.629
3 3AA St. Thomas Academy 0.684 0.603
4 2AA Holy Family 0.656 0.603
5 7AA Duluth East 0.640 0.562
6 8AA Moorhead 0.637 0.606
7 6AA Cretin-Derham Hall 0.623 0.553
8 6AA Wayzata 0.613 0.626
9 8AA Brainerd 0.609 0.562
10 4AA White Bear Lake 0.601 0.538

Please discuss.
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Post by O-townClown » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:40 am

Thanks for sharing. Always interested in seeing computer rankings because they net out who you played and do a great job sorting out who beat who and peak/low performances.

Interesting to see how much Karl's list and the cold PageStat calculation converge later in the season.
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Post by Stang5280 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:20 pm

O-townClown wrote:Thanks for sharing. Always interested in seeing computer rankings because they net out who you played and do a great job sorting out who beat who and peak/low performances.

Interesting to see how much Karl's list and the cold PageStat calculation converge later in the season.
Agreed, and it is also interesting to see the variations in the computer rating systems. I’m no expert in the algorithms involved, but PageStat seems to be the most accurate in aligning with human perception of the teams. RPI is heavily weighted toward strength of schedule (75%), while QRF values wins more than the other two systems. PageStat falls somewhere between those two ends of the spectrum, and always seems to beat the section seedings in predicting playoff winners. PS seems to be a bit like the KenPom rankings for college basketball.

(Don’t get a big head now with all those compliments, Lee :lol: )

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Post by WarmUpTheBus » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:42 pm

All 3 have Minnetonka ranked ahead of DE yet DE beat Mtka at Mtka.

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Post by Stang5280 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:15 pm

WarmUpTheBus wrote:All 3 have Minnetonka ranked ahead of DE yet DE beat Mtka at Mtka.
To quote the PageStat FAQ, “One game does not a season make.”

For better or worse, computer rating systems treat head-to-head matchups as just another game on the schedule. Duluth East has a few questionable results, such as the Blaine tie and the Eden Prairie loss, that no doubt drag down their computer ratings a bit.

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Post by blueblood » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:28 pm

Same thing could be said of Pagestat having STA ahead of Tonka. Tonka has not lost to STA in 2 games this season.
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