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Possible Mr. Hockey Finalists 2018-2019

 
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ThatMNHockeyGuy62



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:00 pm    Post subject: Possible Mr. Hockey Finalists 2018-2019 Reply with quote

Now that we're fully into the doldrums of summer, we've had a couple of early departure developments, and the only thread that's being regularly added to currently is CTE (a worthy cause, but I think the conversation is now going in circles), I'm hoping the time is right to begin an early Mr. Hockey finalists thread. Obviously, things will change with potential new-ish names on the scene after national camps and more guys leaving early, but this is where I see it now. Feel free to add/subtract/debate names as you please. That's the fun!

In no particular order:

Jack Jensen (EP)
Mike Koster (Chaska)
Josh Luedtke (Tonka)
Ethan Frisch (Moorhead)
Bryce Brodzinski (Blaine)
Rob Christy (STA)
Ryder Donovan (DE)
Jack Perbix (ER)
Ben Helgeson (HM)
Charlie Schoen (Andover)

Other names: Jett Jungels (Edina), Brady Meyer (North Branch... 99% sure he's gone but I don't know if I've seen it confirmed anywhere), Jack Bayless (Tonka), Mason Nevers (Edina), Blaine Warnert (Chaska), Landon Langenbrunner (CEC), Donte Lawson (Greenway), Jackson Jutting (PL), Danny Magnuson (CDH), Trevor Kukkonen (Maple Grove), Shane Griffin (Lakeville North).

Would love to add some more Single A players, but unfortunately don't see enough of them during the season and it's tough to go by stats alone since their strength of schedule is often different. Overall it's a pretty deep class so I'm sure I've missed somebody.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks pretty complete 62.

I thought there was a thread on this a few months ago, with comments and also prediction of early departs ? Anyway....

Andovers Dainty also had over 50 points last year along with Schoen, although with much lower SOS than JJ who was under 40 I recall

Think Perbix likely to be the early favorite, JJ and Donovan in close pursuit.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Possible Mr. Hockey Finalists 2018-2019 Reply with quote

ThatMNHockeyGuy62 wrote:

Other names: Jett Jungels (Edina),
Mason Nevers (Edina)


67 points for Nevers & 64 for Jungels in their junior season. I'm not sure how there is a list of 10 frontrunners without them.

Donovan had 62.
Perbix had 68.
Jensen had 38.
Christy had 42.
Brodzinski had 57.
Schoen had 63.
Helgeson had 36.

Edina's soft schedule?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WestMetro wrote:
I thought there was a thread on this a few months ago, with comments and also prediction of early departs ?


I thought so too, but I couldn't find it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Possible Mr. Hockey Finalists 2018-2019 Reply with quote

O-townClown wrote:
ThatMNHockeyGuy62 wrote:

Other names: Jett Jungels (Edina),
Mason Nevers (Edina)


67 points for Nevers & 64 for Jungels in their junior season. I'm not sure how there is a list of 10 frontrunners without them.


The committee is obviously biased against Edina, and since they picked a Hornet last year it will be another few decades before they do it again Wink

In all honesty, you are correct. They should be on there. Couldn't figure out who to take off.. maybe Helgeson? Obviously they were beneficiaries of stellar teammates. Same could be said for a couple others on the list, but it will be interesting to see how things go for them this year.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Possible Mr. Hockey Finalists 2018-2019 Reply with quote

ThatMNHockeyGuy62 wrote:
Obviously they were beneficiaries of stellar teammates. Same could be said for a couple others on the list, but it will be interesting to see how things go for them this year.


For sure. Donovan had a modest amount of goals, but Worth scoring a ton so he racked up assists. When a player didn't have a standout to play with the numbers are a lot lower. I'll offer up Jack Jensen as an example.

Edina will be a top team next season. If their top scorers have a ton of points, which is a reasonable assumption because they did last year, those players will be on a list of 10 guys in the mix around late December.

Interesting off-season banter. Because they played all season on a line with Walker I don't think a lot of people realize how good Jungels & Nevers were.

The D you listed are excellent. It'll be interesting to see which actually make the discussion. Seems to me things are shaped a great deal by the Elite League and input from NHL scouts when names show up on the watch list.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Possible Mr. Hockey Finalists 2018-2019 Reply with quote

O-townClown wrote:
ThatMNHockeyGuy62 wrote:

Other names: Jett Jungels (Edina),
Mason Nevers (Edina)


67 points for Nevers & 64 for Jungels in their junior season. I'm not sure how there is a list of 10 frontrunners without them.

Donovan had 62.
Perbix had 68.
Jensen had 38.
Christy had 42.
Brodzinski had 57.
Schoen had 63.
Helgeson had 36.

Edina's soft schedule?




Nevers and Jungles not at top of Mr Hockey lists as those numbers, talented as those kids are, are by-product of playing on 1st line w/ Walker. Assuming a wait -and-see approach based on the lineups and/or possible further Edina departures? Not sure who will be top 2 centers for Edina this year as SW, LC, ES are all gone so maybe Cavanagh or Morton are possibilities, some JV kids...TBD. Definte impact on Nevers and JJ...so we shall see.

Surely you jest re: Edina's 'soft schedule'? Toughest conference in state with Tonka, EP and Wyz...played HF, Centennial, WBL, LV So and North, DE, ER, etc etc. I believe, according to PageStat, that Edina had top 3 toughest SOS's...maybe even #1? Followed by Wayzata, EP, Mtka (theres that pesky Lake Conf again), Moorhead, DE, GR, PL, Blaine and LV North to round out the top 10 toughest SOS's.

But I agree, after Walker received MR Hockey it will be awhile until its awarded to an Edina kid again, which is fine. Maybe Jimmy Clark in a few years?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

62 Agree Edina unlikely so soon again with who is in pipeline

OOTC. All good points on those star Hornets, and Hornet team outlook for this year, number 2 only to Tonka on my list.

but Perbix, JJ have had NHL interest as will Donovan, which will help keep them as front runners , if they stay for senior year and perform as expected .
If Perbix and JJ do not , then itís Donovanís to lose .
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:28 am    Post subject: Re: Possible Mr. Hockey Finalists 2018-2019 Reply with quote

O-townClown wrote:
The D you listed are excellent. It'll be interesting to see which actually make the discussion. Seems to me things are shaped a great deal by the Elite League and input from NHL scouts when names show up on the watch list.


Very true. DK wasn't on anybody's radar outside of Edina before the Elite League, and Walker being an NHL draft pick really solidified his spot. A couple of the guys I mentioned are eligible for this year's draft, so that will certainly play a role.

Have to wonder if playing in the USHL before the season helps or hurts Mr. Hockey chances. I'm not sure how much that enters player's mind when they're deciding where to play, but it would be interesting to see historical data there. Obviously, Walker was Elite League and Mittelstadt was USHL.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Chaska takes a step up into the top 10 or even top 5 my money will be on Defenseman Mike Koster. He had 55 points last season albeit against a weaker schedule than some listed here. None the less I believe it will be one of the defensemen.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WarmUp

Right now Ive got the Hawks 10th on my own preseason list, hoping the juniors stay for their senior year. I think I saw someone a couple months ago that had them even higher.

Id like to see them start the season in Nov/Dec by knocking off a couple top 15 teams and consistently beating the weaker teams by 3 or 4 goals.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WestMetro wrote:
I think I saw someone a couple months ago that had them even higher.


http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=36486
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WestMetro wrote:
WarmUp

Right now Ive got the Hawks 10th on my own preseason list, hoping the juniors stay for their senior year. I think I saw someone a couple months ago that had them even higher.

Id like to see them start the season in Nov/Dec by knocking off a couple top 15 teams and consistently beating the weaker teams by 3 or 4 goals.


Top 5 AA team
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WestMetro wrote:
WarmUp

Right now Ive got the Hawks 10th on my own preseason list, hoping the juniors stay for their senior year. I think I saw someone a couple months ago that had them even higher.

Id like to see them start the season in Nov/Dec by knocking off a couple top 15 teams and consistently beating the weaker teams by 3 or 4 goals.


Iím told Warnert and Koster are doing Elite League this fall instead of USHL and theyíve confirmed they are staying, which surely puts Koster in mix of top candidates. Not sure on others but Iíd assume if they stay the rest will stay. Early season tests vs Rosemount, CEC, and Eastview will be telling, and then the gauntlet of Tonka, EP, Prior Lake, Edina around Christmas will have major 2AA implications. Can imagine EP will want revenge after being knocked off by Hawks in sections.
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