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Re: University of St Thomas

Post by That guy for that thing » Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:40 am

Slap Shot wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:59 am
nu2hockey wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:04 pm
Slap Shot wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:37 pm
The Wolves averaged 7.9k attendance last season.
Yeah, but, the Wolves are not in Champaign, they play in the northwest suburbs (Rosemont) where most of the youth hockey takes place....the Mission went downtown ,which is stupid, the Fury are down by Joliet, but the highest number of rinks and young players are northwest
That's super, but Mankato doesn't lie in a hockey hotbed. In fact they are in an area where wrestling and basketball reign supreme yet they manage ok with an enrollment that without looking I assume is less than UCI. Is UNO in a hockey hotbed? Notre Dame? Penn State? Ohio State? Arizona State?
This is a great point. You are giving college kids something to go do that is fast-paced and physical. It gives them something to "pre-game" for, more to party around.

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Re: University of St Thomas

Post by goldy313 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:15 am

Penn St. had a donor who paid for the program. Notre Dame is national, not regional. Mankato is in a state hockey crazy, same reason Florida, Texas, Georgia, etc. can support so many D1 football teams. Omaha supported a USHL team far and away better than anyone else in that league for years at Aksarben.

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Re: University of St Thomas

Post by Slap Shot » Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:03 am

goldy313 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:15 am
Penn St. had a donor who paid for the program. Notre Dame is national, not regional. Mankato is in a state hockey crazy, same reason Florida, Texas, Georgia, etc. can support so many D1 football teams. Omaha supported a USHL team far and away better than anyone else in that league for years at Aksarben.
There is nothing to say UIC can't have a donor and PSU's donor isn't buying tickets, Notre Dame's national recognition has nothing to do with filling seats, Mankato is not a hockey area and is barely a hockey school but has decent attendance and again the Chicago Wolves draw very well in their league. Try again.

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Re: University of St Thomas

Post by nu2hockey » Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:50 pm

Slap Shot wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:03 am
goldy313 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:15 am
Penn St. had a donor who paid for the program. Notre Dame is national, not regional. Mankato is in a state hockey crazy, same reason Florida, Texas, Georgia, etc. can support so many D1 football teams. Omaha supported a USHL team far and away better than anyone else in that league for years at Aksarben.
There is nothing to say UIC can't have a donor and PSU's donor isn't buying tickets, Notre Dame's national recognition has nothing to do with filling seats, Mankato is not a hockey area and is barely a hockey school but has decent attendance and again the Chicago Wolves draw very well in their league. Try again.
Not sure how you define hockey area,but, Mankato is a hockey area. All the surrounding communities have high school teams and associations...want to see community based hockey?... Try attending one of these small community's home games..community pride and passion exists in all of these rinks , my guess would be that on a per capita basis(population wise) these small towns have better attendance than many of the cities teams..

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Re: University of St Thomas

Post by Slap Shot » Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:25 am

nu2hockey wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:50 pm
Slap Shot wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:03 am
goldy313 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:15 am
Penn St. had a donor who paid for the program. Notre Dame is national, not regional. Mankato is in a state hockey crazy, same reason Florida, Texas, Georgia, etc. can support so many D1 football teams. Omaha supported a USHL team far and away better than anyone else in that league for years at Aksarben.
There is nothing to say UIC can't have a donor and PSU's donor isn't buying tickets, Notre Dame's national recognition has nothing to do with filling seats, Mankato is not a hockey area and is barely a hockey school but has decent attendance and again the Chicago Wolves draw very well in their league. Try again.
Not sure how you define hockey area,but, Mankato is a hockey area. All the surrounding communities have high school teams and associations...want to see community based hockey?... Try attending one of these small community's home games..community pride and passion exists in all of these rinks , my guess would be that on a per capita basis(population wise) these small towns have better attendance than many of the cities teams..
I graduated from MSU before they turned Div I and no one went to games then. Even now they draw just OK considering how good of a record they've the past few years. Most people at the games when I go down barely watch nor understand the game and student participation is pretty poor. Mankato and surrounding areas pay far more attention to bb and fb.

I am not knocking MSU in any way - I am simply countering the claims that UIC has insurmountable hills to climb and could never manage to draw as well as MSU, UNO, WMU, PSU, OSU, ND....

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Re: University of St Thomas

Post by MrBoDangles » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:04 am

Slap Shot wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:25 am
nu2hockey wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:50 pm
Slap Shot wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:03 am


There is nothing to say UIC can't have a donor and PSU's donor isn't buying tickets, Notre Dame's national recognition has nothing to do with filling seats, Mankato is not a hockey area and is barely a hockey school but has decent attendance and again the Chicago Wolves draw very well in their league. Try again.
Not sure how you define hockey area,but, Mankato is a hockey area. All the surrounding communities have high school teams and associations...want to see community based hockey?... Try attending one of these small community's home games..community pride and passion exists in all of these rinks , my guess would be that on a per capita basis(population wise) these small towns have better attendance than many of the cities teams..
I graduated from MSU before they turned Div I and no one went to games then. Even now they draw just OK considering how good of a record they've the past few years. Most people at the games when I go down barely watch nor understand the game and student participation is pretty poor. Mankato and surrounding areas pay far more attention to bb and fb.

I am not knocking MSU in any way - I am simply countering the claims that UIC has insurmountable hills to climb and could never manage to draw as well as MSU, UNO, WMU, PSU, OSU, ND....
I think they had a higher average attendance than SCSU last year and are right behind many of the huge Big Ten schools... 1992 is far gone. :wink:

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Re: University of St Thomas

Post by Duluthguy » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:17 am

MrBoDangles wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:04 am
Slap Shot wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:25 am
nu2hockey wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:50 pm


Not sure how you define hockey area,but, Mankato is a hockey area. All the surrounding communities have high school teams and associations...want to see community based hockey?... Try attending one of these small community's home games..community pride and passion exists in all of these rinks , my guess would be that on a per capita basis(population wise) these small towns have better attendance than many of the cities teams..
I graduated from MSU before they turned Div I and no one went to games then. Even now they draw just OK considering how good of a record they've the past few years. Most people at the games when I go down barely watch nor understand the game and student participation is pretty poor. Mankato and surrounding areas pay far more attention to bb and fb.

I am not knocking MSU in any way - I am simply countering the claims that UIC has insurmountable hills to climb and could never manage to draw as well as MSU, UNO, WMU, PSU, OSU, ND....
I think they had a higher average attendance than SCSU last year and are right behind many of the huge Big Ten schools... 1992 is far gone. :wink:
St. Cloud's and Mankato's attendance last year were roughly the same.

According to USCHO.com, SCSU averaged 4146 per game, 16th in the country.
MSUM averaged 4129 per game, ranking 18th.

Full attendance figures are here:

https://www.uscho.com/stats/attendance/ ... 2018-2019/

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Re: University of St Thomas

Post by MrBoDangles » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:10 am

Duluthguy wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:17 am
MrBoDangles wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:04 am
Slap Shot wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:25 am


I graduated from MSU before they turned Div I and no one went to games then. Even now they draw just OK considering how good of a record they've the past few years. Most people at the games when I go down barely watch nor understand the game and student participation is pretty poor. Mankato and surrounding areas pay far more attention to bb and fb.

I am not knocking MSU in any way - I am simply countering the claims that UIC has insurmountable hills to climb and could never manage to draw as well as MSU, UNO, WMU, PSU, OSU, ND....
I think they had a higher average attendance than SCSU last year and are right behind many of the huge Big Ten schools... 1992 is far gone. :wink:
St. Cloud's and Mankato's attendance last year were roughly the same.

According to USCHO.com, SCSU averaged 4146 per game, 16th in the country.
MSUM averaged 4129 per game, ranking 18th.

Full attendance figures are here:

https://www.uscho.com/stats/attendance/ ... 2018-2019/
Ok... CollegeXpress and others had MSU having higher. The point is it’s not a ghost town for attendance.

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Re: University of St Thomas

Post by Slap Shot » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:50 am

MrBoDangles wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:10 am
Duluthguy wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:17 am
MrBoDangles wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:04 am


I think they had a higher average attendance than SCSU last year and are right behind many of the huge Big Ten schools... 1992 is far gone. :wink:
St. Cloud's and Mankato's attendance last year were roughly the same.

According to USCHO.com, SCSU averaged 4146 per game, 16th in the country.
MSUM averaged 4129 per game, ranking 18th.

Full attendance figures are here:

https://www.uscho.com/stats/attendance/ ... 2018-2019/
Ok... CollegeXpress and others had MSU having higher. The point is it’s not a ghost town for attendance.
I didn't say it was a ghost town but rather I don't see UIC being unable to get enough fans as some of the aforementioned schools to justify supporting a Div I program.

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