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[MNPrepHockey]

After doing some research I found that he's been having a tough year but against Roseau in Roseau St. Cloud Apollo's Ryne Zenner really showed me something. With his team over -matched he put up save percentage in the low 90's and made some really nice saves.

[Hockey4Life00]

When we played them early on in the year Zenner got pulled i believe at their home rink. I dont think he is performing much at St Cloud Apollo

[NINshuggah]

The best JV goalie is owatonnas. No way. The team may be good at controlling the play, but no way is he the best jv goalie. I seen a game against AL and he didn't even get tested and looked questionalble on his feet. I think AL had someting like 8 shots to 35 and the score was only 3-0. Sure he didn't let any in, but if he was tested the score whould have changed. It is hard to say who the best jv goalie is. Some teames are just better out front like owatonna and make the goalie look good. Other goalies have bad teams in front of them and see 40 plus shots a night. To say the BEST is not correct. Thats why hockey is a team sport.

[ApolloEagle39]

How can you say that if he would have been tested more the score would have been different? Who knows what would have happened or how many goals he would have let in? I like how you're saying that he was shaky in a shutout performance.

[puckiNnet19]

He's right, a shutout is a shutout, however, there's a JV goalie from SCC named Corey Neer. He's lightning quick and can steal a game. You should really see him play, if you can see him at all.

[NINshuggah]

I'v seen him play many times. Hes not at the top of his game. I'm sick of all these people seeing a goalie then worship him for a small number of shots. Sure the team won, but in no way is that goalie the best on in minnesota. Also if shots are put on this goalie the puck will get by him. Its all about shots. More shots, more times the puck will go in.
Rock on in 2006!

[2AhockeyOldTimer]

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Its all about shots. More shots, more times the puck will go in.

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False statement.

More shots...More opportunity for the puck to go in. Also more chances for the goalie to prove why he's the best.

"2A You are a true Cidiot" - IronRanger4ever

[hawkygod015]

sauk rapids had the best goalie we've seen all year but our goalie out played him (wade citro) of hermantown

[NINshuggah]

Think about it MAN.... If a team get more shots on a goalie that puck will go in. Its simple math buddy. The average number of shots to get a puck past a goalie is 10. That means if there are 30 shots then 3 may go in. I thought I tell you this since you don't uderstand numbers very well.

Sure some goalies will save this, but a lot are just average goalies. The goalies that are great are the ones that are on teams that suck and see 40 plus shots and the team still has a chance to win. Theres you GOD of a goalie. People just don't understand the whole team in hockey. YOU SIR are one of these people.

ROCK ON in 2006 I would like you to Address me as colonel or sir...... I think I'v earn it.

[ApolloEagle39]

Obviously there's a lot that you don't understand. Just because a JV goalie has 30 shots on him doesn't mean that a certain number are going to go in. I'm sure we've both seen a game where a goalie had a 40-60 save shutout and a game where a goalie had 10 shots and let in 5 goals. As much as I hate to admit it, 2A is right, more shots means more of an oppertunity for goals to go in, not necessairly that more goals will go in.

[eaglepucks]

8th grader playing for Irondale, he sees 50+ shots a game!

[THGoalieguy]

Boerger - Burnsville, very quick feet. If he can learn to stay up more (plays like Manny) he will be a great V goalie (sophmore)

Sturlaugson - LKVL North - big kid 6' 1", great fundamentals (plays like Rollie) needs to play more agressively, should play V next season.

[NINshuggah]

Thats my point. More shots more chances. I was trying to explain myself in numbers. However to say that someone is the best goalie is false there is no such thing. Thats the thing that is grinding my gears. A person can't label a goalie as the best in something. Sure they have good games and bad ones. Some goalies are better, but sometimes the teams they play for are better too. Really is it that hard to understand. I don't think a lot of people see what is really going on in the game from both perspectives. Goalies and players.
Some players just don't get the credit they deserve.
Don't make asumptions about people you don't know.

Keep your head up or you'll get your faced smashed in 2006 \m/

[2AhockeyOldTimer]

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If a team get more shots on a goalie that puck will go in. Its simple math buddy.

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Is there a Math Equation for this?

If Martin Brodeur sees 30 shots from Apollo's JV team, not many will go in.

If a squirt goalie sees 10 shots from Apollo's JV team, more will go in.

So...obviously outliers occur. It is not simple math...buddy. There is no mathematical equation for how good a goalie is or how many shots will go in out of 10.

"2A You are a true Cidiot" - IronRanger4ever

[NINshuggah]

ALL I'm saying is the A person can't label a goalie as the "Best" in anything. Its Team Sport; Why don't we just hug and make up. HAHahah. We all love the sport so just leave it at that. Rock on

[2AhockeyOldTimer]

If you can't label the best...how come there is a hall of fame?

Beuben Spree Grandma

[NINshuggah]

Sure there is a Hall a Fame in high levels of play. My god man are u seriously going to keep egging me on about this. I'm talking high school. There are good goalies, but in no way at this point in a players life can someone say that goalie is the best in the state or the country for that matter. There is a lot of development and regression left for these players. Its a team sport. Even in the pros there are goalies that are good and put on teams that lack the power to win. So they end up losing more then winning. Now take that same goalie and put him on a great team like the The Wings and he may just have HALL and Fame season. THere is no such thing as the best goalie in anything, just good goalies that help their team win. Partrik Roy now he was a good goalie in his early years and I though he sliped off when he went to Colorado. He still had size to his advantage, but he had a great team in front of him.
YOU need players to score to win a game.

Now that we agree to disagree everything is on a slippery slope. YA DIGG IT

"THAT is a Tasty Burger" UP THE IRONS IN 2006

[2AhockeyOldTimer]

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YOU need players to score to win a game

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I don't need anything.

Since there is no best at anything, how come people strive to be the best.

Beuben Spree Grandma

[gumper1]

Remember the name Brandon Wigen of the 22-0-3 Woodbury Royals. He is better than a lot of Varsity goalies.

[Puck Stud 3]

Steve is the best goalie in JV. i was on his team last year. Last year he gave up 7 goals in 11 starts, as his team went 19-4-1. This year he should have be the Varsity starter but saw little time. On JV he had several shutouts. And led his Roseville JV to a 20-3-2 mark. In two years at JV his goals against is under 1 and his record is about 20-2. Look for him next year at the Varsity level, but he is most likely going to be sharing time with fellow junior Luke Kretchmer, also solid.

[ApolloEagle39]

If you asked 100 people who the best goalie of all time was, you wouldn't get more than five different names, is it just a random happening that all those people would agree being that there is no best goalie?

[ae42]

Im pretty sure that ettel for Roseville had less losses than Krech, but Steve was the numero uno goalie
Im just sayin that ettel is the best backup in 21 years

[hckyplaya0069]

ummm PLEASE BAN ME all those goalies the goalie with the best record and save percentage is danny macaneanny fro mhill murray hes the PLEASE BAN ME

[b-allstar93]

andrew ettel for rosevilles jv is way better than centennials jack hanna for varsitiy

ps i half to agree with ae_42

[gmoola89]

b-allstar. are you retarded? "andrew ettel for rosevilles jv is way better than centennials jack hanna for varsitiy" you seriously should get ur brain checked out if a jv goalie is better than one of the top 90 goalies in the state...then he should be on varsity derka derka muhammad jihad