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Should JV teams be ranked in Lets play hockey
yes
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no
28%
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THEGunslinger



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject: JV STATE RANKING Reply with quote

Im just curious to see what people think on this one? Some have even talked about bringing back a state tourny for them. It is the only level that I know of that does not have a post season!
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CrossbarandIn99



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: JV STATE RANKING Reply with quote

THEGunslinger wrote:
Im just curious to see what people think on this one? Some have even talked about bringing back a state tourny for them. It is the only level that I know of that does not have a post season!


I would say no, since JV rosters are ever-changing....a number of JV teams could be the best in the state at one time depending on who drops down from their varsity to play.
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gopherhockey33



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree, teams would stack their JV for the tourney
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HShockeywatcher



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there'd obviously be rules about that if it happened. I think it's weird that bantams have a state, then you can end your season with a win the next year...
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THEGunslinger



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree.... Rules could be easily implemented.... Something of the fact that you cant make a roster change etc after a certain date... or players can only have so much varsity time...
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HShockeywatcher



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, varsity play time is good for any JV player in any sport, but dropping lots of players down isn't good though.
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boblee



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would have to happen for a tourney would be set playoff rosters. Tournaments go on at the same time (Varsity & JV) and players can't move up and down.
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Card27



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright hear is my piece on this. I think this is one of the dumbest ideas i have ever heard. No one really cares about the jv programs other than the coaches and parents of the jv players. The only thing a good jv team shows is that you have potential in upcoming years. A jv state tournament would be a terrible idea. Then a coach with players on both jv and varsity could just send them down to jv so there team is better. This program is for developing kids to get to the varsity level, not to see who has the best players that arent able to play varsity level in the state.
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FutureSeaWolve



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

written by THEGunslinger
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I agree.... Rules could be easily implemented.... Something of the fact that you cant make a roster change etc after a certain date... or players can only have so much varsity time...


This rule is enforced even without jv state tourney. A player can only play 4 periods within 24 hours. I think this would still work if there was a jv state tourney becuase if there was a good player on varsity the coach would want him up there all 3 periods. Making him only be able to play 1 period in the jv game. Which i think is fine just to give the team a little boost or just for some extra men.
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WBLM



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Im pretty convinced we have the best JV team (WBL), but I dont see some of the northern teams ever play(warroad, roseau etc..).
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The_Godfather



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No--JV teams should not be ranked or have a state tournament. What they should be allowed to do is have a playoff within their own conference at seasons end. As of right now, you get 25 games and thats it, and the MSHSL does not recognize a JV playoff, so teams would be in violation if they had those games. That way, those kids still have something to play for. Anybody on the Varsity roster for playoffs, should not be eligible


"The Godfather" Not talking
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countrygentleman



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

White Bear Lake= best JV squad around???????? d'oh! d'oh! Brick wall Brick wall Found that just a bit funny.
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WBLM



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

12-1 only loss to moorhead? Well theres no way there not in the top 3.
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hawkfan70



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FutureSeaWolve wrote:

This rule is enforced even without jv state tourney. A player can only play 4 periods within 24 hours.


are you sure about this rule?

where is it written
i am not doubting you, I have just never seen it
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murraychadwick



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about Seniors? We've had topics on here discussing Pros/Cons of playing seniors on JV. Some conferences have bylaws saying you can't.
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boblee



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hawkfan70 wrote:
FutureSeaWolve wrote:

This rule is enforced even without jv state tourney. A player can only play 4 periods within 24 hours.


are you sure about this rule?

where is it written
i am not doubting you, I have just never seen it


Yes, this is a rule.
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hawkfan70



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boblee wrote:
hawkfan70 wrote:
FutureSeaWolve wrote:

This rule is enforced even without jv state tourney. A player can only play 4 periods within 24 hours.


are you sure about this rule?

where is it written
i am not doubting you, I have just never seen it


Yes, this is a rule.


well then tell me where i can find it (way to lazy to look myself) Embarassed
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boblee



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hawkfan70 wrote:
boblee wrote:
hawkfan70 wrote:
FutureSeaWolve wrote:

This rule is enforced even without jv state tourney. A player can only play 4 periods within 24 hours.


are you sure about this rule?

where is it written
i am not doubting you, I have just never seen it


Yes, this is a rule.


well then tell me where i can find it (way to lazy to look myself) Embarassed


I don't even know where to find it, but I know it is a rule.
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hockeyfan32



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roseau Rams #1 beat MOORHEAD!!!!!!!!! 1-0
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THEGunslinger



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is in the MSHL rules.... checked with the office.. its official... 4 periods in 24 hours.... thats the rule!

I think the debate here has been great... I think what the godfather said was perfect.... somehow Im wondering if they could do that!

How did WBL JV do in the schwans cup? anyone know?
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FutureSeaWolve



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

murraychadwick wrote:
How about Seniors? We've had topics on here discussing Pros/Cons of playing seniors on JV. Some conferences have bylaws saying you can't.


Why not? Just because they aren't good enough or not serious enough about hockey to make varsity doesn't mean that they shouldn't be able to play. I know a couple seniors who play jv and have a great time, so why take it away they aren't different then any of the other players on jv.
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Trashman



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:56 am    Post subject: Roseau? Reply with quote

Roseau No 1 Question , just because they beat Moorhead Question Question The only reason Moorehead finished as high as 4th in the Schwans Cup is because they played Duluuth East in the first round.
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Trashman



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:05 am    Post subject: Seniors Reply with quote

If a senior is not good enough to play on the varsity, why shouldn't they be eligible for JV Question Question In many cases a senior has played competitve hockey for 10-13 years, and all the sudden just because they aren't good enough for varsity they need to sit? Is there an alternative league for a senior who is denied V and JV? If not then they should definately be eligible, especially those at private schools who might be beaten out by transfers.
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hawkfan70



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boblee wrote:
hawkfan70 wrote:
boblee wrote:
hawkfan70 wrote:
FutureSeaWolve wrote:

This rule is enforced even without jv state tourney. A player can only play 4 periods within 24 hours.


are you sure about this rule?

where is it written
i am not doubting you, I have just never seen it


Yes, this is a rule.


well then tell me where i can find it (way to lazy to look myself) Embarassed


I don't even know where to find it, but I know it is a rule.


anyone find this yet?????
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doubleeagle



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bylaw 502.00 under Daily/Season Player Participation Limitations @mshsl.org
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