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And there is very little chance of Roseau getting knocked off since they play in a section that is ranked below two Class A sections.slasher wrote:hockeyfan43 wrote:what do you think
Roseau is the best until someone knocks them off.
Lets see how good Edina's super team does this year.If they make it that far.
BIAFP wrote:Never? I'm wondering where you learned your math. There is a very high correlation with a team's ranking and their likelihood of winning state. Every year.packerboy wrote: And there is very little chance of Roseau getting knocked off since they play in a section that is ranked below two Class A sections.
And since when have rankings had ANYTHING to do with Champions in Minnesota High School Hockey?........................NEVER
Top 5 teams win more than Top 10 teams.
Top 10 teams win more often than those just outside.
And it is a once-in-a-blue-moon occurence that a team outside the Top 15 musters a six game win streak at the right moment.
History has shown that teams regarded to be among the state's best (defined by Top 5 seems reasonable) usually win. Last year may have been an exception as Roseau could have been a little outside that list entering Sections, but they were only a 2-loss team.
No team since Hill-Murray in 1991 has won state with more than 5 losses. (I'm talking big school class; there may have been a small-school champ.)
I wouldn't feel great about a team's chances to win state if they enter sections outside the Top 10. Rankings matter a lot.
(It isn't necessarily the ranking that matters, it is what the ranking means.)
O-townClown wrote:Yah, thats what I was gonna say! I knew all thatBIAFP wrote:Never? I'm wondering where you learned your math. There is a very high correlation with a team's ranking and their likelihood of winning state. Every year.packerboy wrote: And there is very little chance of Roseau getting knocked off since they play in a section that is ranked below two Class A sections.
And since when have rankings had ANYTHING to do with Champions in Minnesota High School Hockey?........................NEVER
Top 5 teams win more than Top 10 teams.
Top 10 teams win more often than those just outside.
And it is a once-in-a-blue-moon occurence that a team outside the Top 15 musters a six game win streak at the right moment.
History has shown that teams regarded to be among the state's best (defined by Top 5 seems reasonable) usually win. Last year may have been an exception as Roseau could have been a little outside that list entering Sections, but they were only a 2-loss team.
No team since Hill-Murray in 1991 has won state with more than 5 losses. (I'm talking big school class; there may have been a small-school champ.)
I wouldn't feel great about a team's chances to win state if they enter sections outside the Top 10. Rankings matter a lot.
(It isn't necessarily the ranking that matters, it is what the ranking means.)
ACTUALFORMERPLAYER wrote:They gave Edina too much credit last year and seeded them #1. I doubt they will make that same mistake again. #1 Roseau, #2 BSM (they beat Edina) #3 Edinapackerboy wrote:Well hf43 , unless BERG and his buddy HF1 get an ocean of calamine lotion, that doesnt seem too likely.
We should be happy the the tournament will be seeded so whatever happens, happens Friday night or after. Hopefully it will go #1 Edina, #2 Roseau and #3 Minnetonka/BSM.
Until that time, dont get any cat scratch fever.
It might but it shouldnt.DasCondor wrote:ACTUALFORMERPLAYER wrote:They gave Edina too much credit last year and seeded them #1. I doubt they will make that same mistake again. #1 Roseau, #2 BSM (they beat Edina) #3 Edinapackerboy wrote:Well hf43 , unless BERG and his buddy HF1 get an ocean of calamine lotion, that doesnt seem too likely.
We should be happy the the tournament will be seeded so whatever happens, happens Friday night or after. Hopefully it will go #1 Edina, #2 Roseau and #3 Minnetonka/BSM.
Until that time, dont get any cat scratch fever.
lets say minnetonka beats edina this saturday,,, would that make them 2 seed? if they win their section
packerboy wrote:It might but it shouldnt.DasCondor wrote:ACTUALFORMERPLAYER wrote: They gave Edina too much credit last year and seeded them #1. I doubt they will make that same mistake again. #1 Roseau, #2 BSM (they beat Edina) #3 Edina
lets say minnetonka beats edina this saturday,,, would that make them 2 seed? if they win their section
What the ....? Apparently somebody can't read a map, or ignores the posts explaining it to him. I've also come to realize that money can't solve the distance problem. As someone else pointed out, these kids are high school students and time is a big issue. They can't live on a school bus. Those very few posting from Roseau, it may be time to stop. Even though this is the internet where we shoot off our mouths with total disregard, disrespect, and with no sense of responsibility, I think several are getting a bad taste for Roseau. It isn't fair to the community. When I read posts explaining that Edina has no ill will for Roseau, but we do for them, it's time to stop.packerboy wrote:
If your excuse for your beloved northwoods heros' schedule is distance, how do you explain Mororhead's schedule being ranked top 10?
WISH, the world seems to have a chip on its shoulder regarding Edina. Edina kids direct their focus to local rivals. At the present it is mainly Eden Prairie. Because of the public/private aspect it was Hill-Murray and now includes Minneapolis-area privates, compounded by the fact they've lost players to them.wishock wrote: When I read posts explaining that Edina has no ill will for Roseau, but we do for them, it's time to stop.
Poor, poor Clown. Everbody picks on the Clown.O-townClown wrote:WISH, the world seems to have a chip on its shoulder regarding Edina. Edina kids direct their focus to local rivals. At the present it is mainly Eden Prairie. Because of the public/private aspect it was Hill-Murray and now includes Minneapolis-area privates, compounded by the fact they've lost players to them.wishock wrote: When I read posts explaining that Edina has no ill will for Roseau, but we do for them, it's time to stop.
There have been so many posts where people say they'll rejoice if/when Edina loses you can stack them and climb Paul Bunyan. 43, 27, Fox Hockey, Spin-o-Rama, etc... any of them make claims they'll be giddy when anyone else loses? No. Nobody in Edina ever much cares about anyone but themselves. (Another oft-heard knock against Edina.)
Don't waste grief on me. I'm fine.OGEE OGELTHORPE wrote:
Poor, poor Clown. Everbody picks on the Clown.
O-townClown wrote:WISH, the world seems to have a chip on its shoulder regarding Edina. Edina kids direct their focus to local rivals. At the present it is mainly Eden Prairie. Because of the public/private aspect it was Hill-Murray and now includes Minneapolis-area privates, compounded by the fact they've lost players to them.wishock wrote: When I read posts explaining that Edina has no ill will for Roseau, but we do for them, it's time to stop.
There have been so many posts where people say they'll rejoice if/when Edina loses you can stack them and climb Paul Bunyan. 43, 27, Fox Hockey, Spin-o-Rama, etc... any of them make claims they'll be giddy when anyone else loses? No. Nobody in Edina ever much cares about anyone but themselves. (Another oft-heard knock against Edina.)
Does it matter? Any of it? If Roseau gets to State they will get a top 4 seed, and a random opponant from 5-8. The top seed hasn't won since 2004 so I don't know why anybody wants it let alone argues about it. Is there so little going on in Edina and Roseau that not being #1 on this forum means so much?ACTUALFORMERPLAYER wrote:Neut, are you in the sauce?Neutron 14 wrote:Well I have both Edina and Minnetonka ahead of Roseau, so it doesn't change Roseaus position at all.61ache wrote:Well Roseau just finished the season undefeated and Edina dropped a game let the feud of speculation continue!
Correct, I think it would matter if they seeded 1-8. I guess the high school league doesn't want someone to feel sad if they got the 8th seed?Neutron 14 wrote:Does it matter? Any of it? If Roseau gets to State they will get a top 4 seed, and a random opponant from 5-8. The top seed hasn't won since 2004 so I don't know why anybody wants it let alone argues about it. Is there so little going on in Edina and Roseau that not being #1 on this forum means so much?ACTUALFORMERPLAYER wrote:Neut, are you in the sauce?Neutron 14 wrote: Well I have both Edina and Minnetonka ahead of Roseau, so it doesn't change Roseaus position at all.
Neutron 14 wrote:Does it matter? Any of it? If Roseau gets to State they will get a top 4 seed, and a random opponant from 5-8. The top seed hasn't won since 2004 so I don't know why anybody wants it let alone argues about it. Is there so little going on in Edina and Roseau that not being #1 on this forum means so much?ACTUALFORMERPLAYER wrote:Neut, are you in the sauce?Neutron 14 wrote: Well I have both Edina and Minnetonka ahead of Roseau, so it doesn't change Roseaus position at all.
blueblood wrote:Don't forget about T-O-N-K-A.
If Roseau, Edina and Tonka all make it, there is the potential for a semifinal game for the ages. Who knows, maybe Roseau doesn't get the #1 seed?
Tonka and Edina can both argue they are #1 based on Strength of Schedule. Roseau is a great team, but they haven't really played anyone.
Their two best wins are 1-0 over Blaine and 1-0 over Rapids, two decent teams, but not in the caliber of Edina or Tonka.
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rams80 wrote:blueblood wrote:Don't forget about T-O-N-K-A.
If Roseau, Edina and Tonka all make it, there is the potential for a semifinal game for the ages. Who knows, maybe Roseau doesn't get the #1 seed?
Tonka and Edina can both argue they are #1 based on Strength of Schedule. Roseau is a great team, but they haven't really played anyone.
Their two best wins are 1-0 over Blaine and 1-0 over Rapids, two decent teams, but not in the caliber of Edina or Tonka.
The Rams own the Championship Belt and until someone knocks them off they are #1.
hockeyfan43 wrote:rams80 wrote:blueblood wrote:Don't forget about T-O-N-K-A.
If Roseau, Edina and Tonka all make it, there is the potential for a semifinal game for the ages. Who knows, maybe Roseau doesn't get the #1 seed?
Tonka and Edina can both argue they are #1 based on Strength of Schedule. Roseau is a great team, but they haven't really played anyone.
Their two best wins are 1-0 over Blaine and 1-0 over Rapids, two decent teams, but not in the caliber of Edina or Tonka.
The Rams own the Championship Belt and until someone knocks them off they are #1.
Your beating a dead horse
Don't know about in Edina, but Neut, in Roseau the answer to your question is YES there is so little going on that is that importantNeutron 14 wrote:Does it matter? Any of it? If Roseau gets to State they will get a top 4 seed, and a random opponant from 5-8. The top seed hasn't won since 2004 so I don't know why anybody wants it let alone argues about it. Is there so little going on in Edina and Roseau that not being #1 on this forum means so much?ACTUALFORMERPLAYER wrote:Neut, are you in the sauce?Neutron 14 wrote: Well I have both Edina and Minnetonka ahead of Roseau, so it doesn't change Roseaus position at all.
