Yuro?
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Bash Brother
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Yuro?
This guy called Yuro coaches the 97 Northern Edge Nationals and goes to associations. Is he worth the money cause we run into him everywhere?
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Icehound99
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Stephen Yurichuk is a very good coach. Very demanding, very disciplined and good for young/older skaters! My 10 yr old son says he's the best (not favorite)! Now I've seen other kids not enjoy the experience. So if your kid can't grasp the concept of "what's good for them" it may not be all good but the parents sure are happy with him.
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HockeyDadMN
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Yuro is fun to watch skate, I've never seen anyone with so much energy. His energy rubs of on the kids and he personally helps them become better skaters.
NEEHS run one of the hardest physical camps, but I think the players enjoy themselves more than any highly motivational camp I've seen. Where else do you see 6-8 coaches on the ice all day, every day. I believe they are the fastest growing training group in the country and have a very high retention rate.
I'm not involved with them or any other, but my som has been to several well known clinics and camps, multiple times over the last 6 years. In my opinion NEEHS, Shattuck and MM are the best for players that want to push themselves. NEEHS is probably the best value for the buck, Shattuck may be the toughest, MM is probably the most controversial, but has been "the place" to be seen since they built the rink.
NEEHS run one of the hardest physical camps, but I think the players enjoy themselves more than any highly motivational camp I've seen. Where else do you see 6-8 coaches on the ice all day, every day. I believe they are the fastest growing training group in the country and have a very high retention rate.
I'm not involved with them or any other, but my som has been to several well known clinics and camps, multiple times over the last 6 years. In my opinion NEEHS, Shattuck and MM are the best for players that want to push themselves. NEEHS is probably the best value for the buck, Shattuck may be the toughest, MM is probably the most controversial, but has been "the place" to be seen since they built the rink.
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oldtimer64
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Yuro works with Champlin Park Bloomington IGH Rosemount and many others. He also works with NHL players. No he is not for all kids or parents, I also have not seen a better program in this state for development. My son has skated for NEEHS for the last 4 years Every program he has is different. and he can assist you with the prices. www.neehs.com yes he is tough on the bench but gets more out of kids then anyone I have ever seen.
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Judgeandjury
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Very demanding, very disciplined and good for young/older skaters? From what I hear he's just like Bernie at minnesota made. The kids will need to listen and want to learn. Yuro isn't for everyone.mnhcp wrote:Stephen Yurichuk is a very good coach. Very demanding, very disciplined and good for young/older skaters! My 10 yr old says he's the best (not favorite)! Now I've seen other kids not enjoy the experience. So if your kid can't grasp the concept of "what's good for them" it may not be all good but the parents sure are happy with him.
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goinbardown
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The man is a phenomenal teacher of the game. He doesn't care if your 5 or 50 he just wants you to do the drill correctly and to the best of your ability. He is nothing like Bernie. I've experience both programs (AAA) and Northern Edge is going to be a better program(Eventually) because they create incredibly high skilled players where to me it seemed like Minnesota Made was taking good players and teaching them a high passing system.
Overall I'm a huge fan of NEEHS and what they bring to the table as for Yuro and his staff keep up the good work and I'll see you at a camp this summer.
Overall I'm a huge fan of NEEHS and what they bring to the table as for Yuro and his staff keep up the good work and I'll see you at a camp this summer.
Yuro is nothing like Bernie. Demanding yes but not brash. Demanding not intimidating. I also think Minnesota Made has gone downhill abit as they've expanded their offerings. The calibur of the instructors isn't what it used to be. Usually a bunch of dads who's kids skate for free. Neeh's is top notch. I've stopped sending my kids to MN Made when I witnessed them just cruising through the drills incorrectly. I should have said something. Neehs isn't a come to town and gone camp either. They do get to know your kids. At MN Made I don't see this happening but I could be wrong.
When 1 father complained about how demanding Neeh was I believe I heard Yuro say, "maybe you should send them to church camp next time instead". I loved it!
I did like MN Made better when Bernie was always on the ice as the lead. As irritating as he is I still liked him running the show.
When 1 father complained about how demanding Neeh was I believe I heard Yuro say, "maybe you should send them to church camp next time instead". I loved it!
I did like MN Made better when Bernie was always on the ice as the lead. As irritating as he is I still liked him running the show.
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Ron Hextall
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Sounds like we got a bunch of board members on here trying to justify the $200 an hour plus ice cost that you guys spent on him.
For those of you that have had him for a skills night, please tell me what he brought to your team practices and development? Was the overall development of the association better, the same, or worse?
I ask because the people I have talked to are not bringing him back at all next year, so if he is good for a program than why is he not coming back?
For those of you that have had him for a skills night, please tell me what he brought to your team practices and development? Was the overall development of the association better, the same, or worse?
I ask because the people I have talked to are not bringing him back at all next year, so if he is good for a program than why is he not coming back?
Quote "For those of you that have had him for a skills night, please tell me what he brought to your team practices and development? Was the overall development of the association better, the same, or worse?"
In a nutshell, he has creative-effective-demanding drills, full of energy, no wasted time and off the charts tempo. With no preparation he'll have the entire practice plan mapped out in his head 1 minute to prior to your practice specifically taylored to your teams desired weakness to be addressed. Your kids will see the most effective use of a 1 hour practice seen no where else! They won't even have the time to realize how hard they've just worked until the practice is over!
We didn't have him back because the coaches are intimidated and don't want the side by side comparison. The coaches are know it alls and having Yuro makes them look bad.
The parents didn't have him back for 2 reasons. 1) The coaches didn't want him back 2) The parents felt it was a waste since the coaches didn't implement any of the things he was teaching into their practices.
Most A parents all want him back (A) but they also want the coaches to implement what he's teaching the kids and the coaches. The ones who don't are generally C parents. The A coaches generally aren't intimidated and are open to his creativity and flow he brings unless they are insecure which is the case with some. The C coaches wouldn't even know what to do with what he brings.
Why don't you just email him and go watch him yourself? That'll give you the answer you're looking for.
or watch him here,
http://www.neehs.com/video.20080131.asp
The practices aren't much different then the video. Even while kids are waiting in line for "their turn" their maybe doing medicine ball stuff or age appropriate push ups. "NO" time is wasted.
In a nutshell, he has creative-effective-demanding drills, full of energy, no wasted time and off the charts tempo. With no preparation he'll have the entire practice plan mapped out in his head 1 minute to prior to your practice specifically taylored to your teams desired weakness to be addressed. Your kids will see the most effective use of a 1 hour practice seen no where else! They won't even have the time to realize how hard they've just worked until the practice is over!
We didn't have him back because the coaches are intimidated and don't want the side by side comparison. The coaches are know it alls and having Yuro makes them look bad.
The parents didn't have him back for 2 reasons. 1) The coaches didn't want him back 2) The parents felt it was a waste since the coaches didn't implement any of the things he was teaching into their practices.
Most A parents all want him back (A) but they also want the coaches to implement what he's teaching the kids and the coaches. The ones who don't are generally C parents. The A coaches generally aren't intimidated and are open to his creativity and flow he brings unless they are insecure which is the case with some. The C coaches wouldn't even know what to do with what he brings.
Why don't you just email him and go watch him yourself? That'll give you the answer you're looking for.
or watch him here,
http://www.neehs.com/video.20080131.asp
The practices aren't much different then the video. Even while kids are waiting in line for "their turn" their maybe doing medicine ball stuff or age appropriate push ups. "NO" time is wasted.
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Ron Hextall
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I didn't want to get negative, but I am wondering if we are seeing the same thing here, or talking about the same person.
Its a very interesting spin you are putting on here, or should I say marketing campaign.
I have seen him on the ice, and to be blunt he runs good drills, that are often times too complicated for the group he has on the ice. He spends the majority of his time stopping to explain the drill over and over again, the end result is the kids get less and less repetitions. They spend more time on one knee than skating the drill, but I agree it is a good drill. He also makes very little eye contact with the skaters, rarely faces them when talking.
I won't question his hockey knowledge at all, but his ability to teach players in order to get them to understand I have not seen. He is a teller more than a teacher, telling a kid he needs to go faster and skate harder is different than getting him to do it.
Also, I did not see him share a practice plan with coaches or have one, approach them with instructions on what drills they would be doing ask for their input, assess team talent level and adjust accordingly in order to maximize development. Biggest statement I heard was that this what 'AAA' peewee age kids are supposed to be able to do now, so do it. Keep in mind he was running the skills for the same group when they were squirts.
Last thing, driest heads I have seen come off of an ice rink in a long time.
Its a very interesting spin you are putting on here, or should I say marketing campaign.
I have seen him on the ice, and to be blunt he runs good drills, that are often times too complicated for the group he has on the ice. He spends the majority of his time stopping to explain the drill over and over again, the end result is the kids get less and less repetitions. They spend more time on one knee than skating the drill, but I agree it is a good drill. He also makes very little eye contact with the skaters, rarely faces them when talking.
I won't question his hockey knowledge at all, but his ability to teach players in order to get them to understand I have not seen. He is a teller more than a teacher, telling a kid he needs to go faster and skate harder is different than getting him to do it.
Also, I did not see him share a practice plan with coaches or have one, approach them with instructions on what drills they would be doing ask for their input, assess team talent level and adjust accordingly in order to maximize development. Biggest statement I heard was that this what 'AAA' peewee age kids are supposed to be able to do now, so do it. Keep in mind he was running the skills for the same group when they were squirts.
Last thing, driest heads I have seen come off of an ice rink in a long time.
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Ron Hextall
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"In a nutshell, he has creative-effective-demanding drills, full of energy, no wasted time and off the charts tempo. With no preparation he'll have the entire practice plan mapped out in his head 1 minute to prior to your practice specifically taylored to your teams desired weakness to be addressed. Your kids will see the most effective use of a 1 hour practice seen no where else! They won't even have the time to realize how hard they've just worked until the practice is over!
We didn't have him back because the coaches are intimidated and don't want the side by side comparison. The coaches are know it alls and having Yuro makes them look bad."
This is the most arrogant thing I have read in quite sometime. As a coach you must be prepared, especially if you are getting paid for it. Being prepared requires communication and thought.
If you can honestly tell me that you can look at the kids 1 minute before a practice and asses what they are in need of, your crazy, that's not hockey excellence that's laziness. What that says to me is that things are being pulled out of thin air.
We didn't have him back because the coaches are intimidated and don't want the side by side comparison. The coaches are know it alls and having Yuro makes them look bad."
This is the most arrogant thing I have read in quite sometime. As a coach you must be prepared, especially if you are getting paid for it. Being prepared requires communication and thought.
If you can honestly tell me that you can look at the kids 1 minute before a practice and asses what they are in need of, your crazy, that's not hockey excellence that's laziness. What that says to me is that things are being pulled out of thin air.
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goinbardown
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I think he runs great practices. Him stopping is because every kid in his mind has to do the drill correctly or else they are wasting his time and the associations money.
It just like anything else, if you only lift weights 1 time a month your not going to get much stronger than if your did 4 times a week. You need to see him more than once in a while to get the full effect of his program.
His clinics are just that with a bunch of instructors and the kids are going through the drill every 40 seconds.
His teams are starting to get big. I watched the 97, 98, 95 try out and there were some really talented kids there.
It just like anything else, if you only lift weights 1 time a month your not going to get much stronger than if your did 4 times a week. You need to see him more than once in a while to get the full effect of his program.
His clinics are just that with a bunch of instructors and the kids are going through the drill every 40 seconds.
His teams are starting to get big. I watched the 97, 98, 95 try out and there were some really talented kids there.
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Judgeandjury
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I've also experienced both. I can honestly say there's not much of a difference between the two guys. Both guys are very demanding and expect the kids to be at their best. Don't forget that Bernie has four AAA teams at every age level and every talent level. Yuro does a good job too cannot go wrong with either one. If your skater is shy take them elsewhere.mnhcp wrote:Yuro is nothing like Bernie. Demanding yes but not brash. Demanding not intimidating. I also think Minnesota Made has gone downhill abit as they've expanded their offerings. The calibur of the instructors isn't what it used to be. Usually a bunch of dads who's kids skate for free. Neeh's is top notch. I've stopped sending my kids to MN Made when I witnessed them just cruising through the drills incorrectly. I should have said something. Neehs isn't a come to town and gone camp either. They do get to know your kids. At MN Made I don't see this happening but I could be wrong.
When 1 father complained about how demanding Neeh was I believe I heard Yuro say, "maybe you should send them to church camp next time instead". I loved it!
I did like MN Made better when Bernie was always on the ice as the lead. As irritating as he is I still liked him running the show.
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Lily Braden
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HEX
There is no interesting spin. We are just repeat customers!
I see the spin coming from you. You ask all these questions but you already know the answer your looking for. Yours.
By the way,
I DID SAY "TO YOUR TEAMS DESIRED WEAKNESS" NOT A 1 MINUTE ASSESSMENT!
He can't read minds so of course he finds the desired weaknesses to work on by consulting with the team before practice.
Meaning after consulting the coaches he "can" on the fly have the entire practice plan all mapped out. By no means will he have assessed the team in 1 minute. For example, Yuro shows up to practice with no preparation as coach never advised him expectations or goals, he shows up blind, tracks down the coach and says, "what do you want to work on today"......coach says "kids need alot of work on angling and rebounds". Without hesitation he has the entire practice mapped out.
Normally of course this is done in advance. If not I'd blame the person doing the hiring (the team or coaches) not Yuro.
I disagree with the teaching and demonstrating. Depending on when you saw him which was maybe late summer and into the fall he was skating with a busted ankle. Therefore I'm sure there was little skating by example? I've never seen a lead instructor skate so hard during a practice (when ankle not busted)! Ever!
I guess we beg to differ.
There is no interesting spin. We are just repeat customers!
I see the spin coming from you. You ask all these questions but you already know the answer your looking for. Yours.
By the way,
I DID SAY "TO YOUR TEAMS DESIRED WEAKNESS" NOT A 1 MINUTE ASSESSMENT!
He can't read minds so of course he finds the desired weaknesses to work on by consulting with the team before practice.
Meaning after consulting the coaches he "can" on the fly have the entire practice plan all mapped out. By no means will he have assessed the team in 1 minute. For example, Yuro shows up to practice with no preparation as coach never advised him expectations or goals, he shows up blind, tracks down the coach and says, "what do you want to work on today"......coach says "kids need alot of work on angling and rebounds". Without hesitation he has the entire practice mapped out.
Normally of course this is done in advance. If not I'd blame the person doing the hiring (the team or coaches) not Yuro.
I disagree with the teaching and demonstrating. Depending on when you saw him which was maybe late summer and into the fall he was skating with a busted ankle. Therefore I'm sure there was little skating by example? I've never seen a lead instructor skate so hard during a practice (when ankle not busted)! Ever!
I guess we beg to differ.
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Ron you need to go wacth his practice and see what he is all about. Dry heads thats BS If have a player have him skate with yuro for 30 minutes and see if his or her head is wet if it is not then put your kid in a different sport I have been around Steve for many years and I have to say that statement is false. He is the real deal for TOP end players.
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goinbardown
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Judgeandjury
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Can he do the Hamel Camel?goinbardown wrote:I watched him skate with the Jefferson Varsity and I saw him doing the jumping thing where his feet are like 5 ft off the ground. Not only could he get substantially higher than the kids but he had the broken ankle. The man is an athlete no doubt about it.
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surehockey
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I have seen him on the ice, and to be blunt he runs good drills, that are often times too complicated for the group he has on the ice. He spends the majority of his time stopping to explain the drill over and over again, the end result is the kids get less and less repetitions. They spend more time on one knee than skating the drill, but I agree it is a good drill. He also makes very little eye contact with the skaters, rarely faces them when talking.
I won't question his hockey knowledge at all, but his ability to teach players in order to get them to understand I have not seen. He is a teller more than a teacher, telling a kid he needs to go faster and skate harder is different than getting him to do it.
Also, I did not see him share a practice plan with coaches or have one, approach them with instructions on what drills they would be doing ask for their input, assess team talent level and adjust accordingly in order to maximize development. Biggest statement I heard was that this what 'AAA' peewee age kids are supposed to be able to do now, so do it. Keep in mind he was running the skills for the same group when they were squirts.
Last thing, driest heads I have seen come off of an ice rink in a long time.[/quote]
I have NEVER seen a dry head come off the ice. My oldest skated with him in Cedar Rapids, and I had 2 skate with NEEHS last year. His drills may seem complicated at first, but the kids do get them. Maybe WE don't, but they do, and if they have a question about it, he explains it. If it is done wrong, he stops and corrects. In my opinion they need to get pushed. Why do the easy stuff, just to get by? He wants the best out of them, and I see nothing wrong with that, teaches them life lessons, to stive for something better. My kids look forward to skating with him. He may be stern on the ice, but when he is off the ice, he has a smile on his face and talks with they kids, and parents, very positive.
I won't question his hockey knowledge at all, but his ability to teach players in order to get them to understand I have not seen. He is a teller more than a teacher, telling a kid he needs to go faster and skate harder is different than getting him to do it.
Also, I did not see him share a practice plan with coaches or have one, approach them with instructions on what drills they would be doing ask for their input, assess team talent level and adjust accordingly in order to maximize development. Biggest statement I heard was that this what 'AAA' peewee age kids are supposed to be able to do now, so do it. Keep in mind he was running the skills for the same group when they were squirts.
Last thing, driest heads I have seen come off of an ice rink in a long time.[/quote]
I have NEVER seen a dry head come off the ice. My oldest skated with him in Cedar Rapids, and I had 2 skate with NEEHS last year. His drills may seem complicated at first, but the kids do get them. Maybe WE don't, but they do, and if they have a question about it, he explains it. If it is done wrong, he stops and corrects. In my opinion they need to get pushed. Why do the easy stuff, just to get by? He wants the best out of them, and I see nothing wrong with that, teaches them life lessons, to stive for something better. My kids look forward to skating with him. He may be stern on the ice, but when he is off the ice, he has a smile on his face and talks with they kids, and parents, very positive.
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seek & destroy
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Re: Yuro?
The original question was 'is he worth the money?' I don't think that there is any clinic that is worth $450 fo 4 days skating nor is there anyone who is worth that kind of money per hour. You can't teach enough crammed into that short period of time to make a player that much better for the long haul.Bash Brother wrote:This guy called Yuro coaches the 97 Northern Edge Nationals and goes to associations. Is he worth the money cause we run into him everywhere?
I've also personally witnessed his sessions and there can be a lot of down time while he re-explains the drills. It is not necessarily his fault but it is just the way open registration clinics tend to work. They are there to make money so they end up taking whoever signs up. If you could get a small group of only very talented players they could get a lot out of his drills because he does have some great drills. But if yours is like most associations where you have a variety of talent levels who want to participate in his clinics they will spend a lot of time listening to him talk (and occasionally yell) because a bunch of kids just won't be good at his drills.
He can also be very judgemental of players. His philosophy appears to be: if you don't do things exactly the way he tells you, you aren't going to be any good at hockey. In my opinion there are a large number of ways to learn the sport of hockey and his clinics are one option.