Edina Squirt A tourney predictions

Trout · Post by **Trout** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:11 pm

Finals went as expected

Edina 9-1 over Andover
ER 4-0 over Blaine

forreal · Post by **forreal** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:02 pm

Trout wrote:Finals went as expected

Edina 9-1 over Andover
ER 4-0 over Blaine

Geez is Edina good! Saw them today. I don't think they'll lose this year. After them elk river and Andover seemed like the best teams. I also thought if still water had any idea of positioning they would be very good.

Impressive showing by Edina and district 10

Tellitlikeitis · Post by **Tellitlikeitis** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:25 pm

Edina is just too loaded, has good coaching and may not be touched this season. Andover in the championship game were simply outclassed in every aspect.

Edina's side of the bracket was stacked and they still rolled. STMA Finished 5th in that bracket. STMA may have won the other bracket if they were placed in that bracket.

forreal · Post by **forreal** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:59 pm

Tellitlikeitis wrote:Edina is just too loaded, has good coaching and may not be touched this season. Andover in the championship game were simply outclassed in every aspect.

Edina's side of the bracket was stacked and they still rolled. STMA Finished 5th in that bracket. STMA may have won the other bracket if they were placed in that bracket.

Did you see any of the tournament? The few games I saw, Andover and elk river were much stronger. I also think stillwater would have beat stma THIS WEEKEND. These teams could change spots everyweekend with the exception of Edina who won't likely lose this year.

I think they'd beat the fire by 3

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:15 pm

99 Fire or 00? Edina sounds like they have one heck of a team.

forreal · Post by **forreal** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:36 pm

Edina might be the best squirt team I've seen since my nephews started 12 years ago. That said I don't think they could beat the 99 fire. I've never seen the 99 fire play but I think they were able to check all summer and this year. It would be near impossible for a squirt team team to compete with a 99 aaa team. I just think Edina has so much more depth than the 00 fire

Toomuchtoosoon · Post by **Toomuchtoosoon** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:41 pm

PW B1 Green and White easily beat the SQ A, 99 fire beat Green and White.

hotsauce · Post by **hotsauce** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:27 pm

big orange wrote:Did enjoy the show or aka hot sauce or vanila ice have his suite on for another smack down by jungles

Wasn't there to see. Interesting that every time someone wants to attack that man they seem to have orange in there name or something of the like. My understanding is they(jungles and him) seem to get a long well now.

I don't think he or jungles played in that game. I think their teams did. It sounds like it was a smack down but do you really expect a guy coaching a team from an association as small as Andover was going to beat Edina?

I thought you were done posting on here after I made you look stupid with your last post. If I see him before the spring I'll ask him if he owns a "suite". Looks like you might want to buy a dictionary.

It will be interesting to see how their respective teams do in the spring, but for now Edina sounds like they will dominate everyone this winter and they should be proud of that. Looks like they have a great coach and a great team.

Sounds like it was a good tournament. Would of been even
Better if wayzata and centennial were there. Leave it to your genius self to try to make it about 2 coaches. Grow up you've yet again emberassed yourself. Congrats!

Trout · Post by **Trout** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:40 am

I saw a lot of the tournament. I have also seen lots of squirt hockey over the past 4 years. I believe this Edina team and the one I belive 4 years ago are pretty comparable. With that said I do not think they could even have a close game with the 99 fire...not even close.

I do agree with much of what I heard. I have seen Wayzata and Centennial and if you replace Eagan and Fargo with those two you probably have the best squirt teams around. Maybe add Sibley, WBL in the mix as well.

I belive Andover is the 4th best team in D10 with Blaine, ER, and Centennial ahead of them. They just are not deep enough.

STMA has very good D and goaltending which will keep them in a lot of games. Stillwater has lots of talent, but inconsistent goaltending and their kids were all over this ice this tourney.

OMG agian good goaltending and D, need a little more scoring. EP is a lot like Andover to me, a few high end kids but lack some depth.

All in all if you take Edina out of the mix it would be a different team that wins this thing every time you play it.

forreal · Post by **forreal** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:46 am

Trout wrote:
All in all if you take Edina out of the mix it would be a different team that wins this thing every time you play it.

Absolutely agree!!!

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:56 am

Seen a ton of youth hockey in general. People don't get this pumped up about squirt teams. They must be good. I would like to see them play, but wrong side of the metro,and have my own five kids to get to hockey. Good luck to all those kids and parents. Enjoy the times. Next thing you know they will be in high school. [then they are too cool to even ride to or from the arena with you]

Towelie · Post by **Towelie** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:33 am

Toomuchtoosoon wrote:PW B1 Green and White easily beat the SQ A, 99 fire beat Green and White.

When did the PWb1 teams ever play the squirt A team?...and fyi PWb1 green and white havn't played the fire for 2 years now as they are not allowed to, and if i recall the white never played them and only the green did and that was a few times

Toomuchtoosoon · Post by **Toomuchtoosoon** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:06 pm

When did the PWb1 teams ever play the squirt A team?...and fyi PWb1 green and white havn't played the fire for 2 years now as they are not allowed to, and if i recall the white never played them and only the green did and that was a few times

Don't take things so literally-it is just an educated observation on the relative strengths of the teams. Don't start drooling too much over this SQA team. look at the current PWA team is compared to two years ago. Still very good, but obviously beatable.

O-townClown · Post by **O-townClown** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:12 pm

Toomuchtoosoon wrote: Don't start drooling too much over this SQA team. look at the current PWA team is compared to two years ago. Still very good, but obviously beatable.

True, but the last awesome Edina Squirt team was three years ago. Two years later they did in fact win Pee Wee State.

Survey · Post by **Survey** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:24 pm

I think a lot of their top players this year are just 1st years too.

Trout · Post by **Trout** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:57 pm

I believe there are 5 first years on that team (someone may correct me here but I think that is the case). It is amazing for a large program like this to have that many first years on the team.

I think several of the other good teams have a good young core as well. The Stillwater guy I was standing next to said they have 5 first years this year the most they have had in many years. He also said they had none last year so they have no returning A squirts. Wayzata only has 1 if I am not mistaken. The smaller programs all have 4 or 5 returners each year as they don't have the depth in any class that the large programs do.

The fact that Edina has that many young guys and are still that consistently good is pretty amazing. Their B teams are loaded as well. They will certainly be very good next year as well. Not sure if the depth will be like this year but they will be very good none the less.

No doubt they will be beaten in the future, their training regimen, time they put on the ice and keeping those kids together has helped them get ahead at this young age. They practice twice a day sometimes (morning and afternoon) as squirts! Overboard...maybe. Does it mean they can sustain their advantage...maybe maybe not.

57special · Post by **57special** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:39 pm

My son was a first year Edina Squirt B last year and is back in it. Thought he might have a chance to make the A team this year, but he didn't even get a chance.
All of the Edina Squirt B teams are pretty competitive this year. If you took the top four players off of each team you'd have a group that could compete with other A teams, and probably win at least half of their games. Probably the same could be said of Chaska and Wayzata, maybe Tonka.
I wish the stronger programs would field two A teams. I don't see the point in beating opponents 10-1 or 9-3 on a regular basis,as is happening on both the A and B level this year. Nobody wins in that scenario, IMO. And getting between 5-10 shots a game sucks for the goalies.

DMom · Post by **DMom** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:43 am

Trout wrote:I believe there are 5 first years on that team (someone may correct me here but I think that is the case). It is amazing for a large program like this to have that many first years on the team.

I think several of the other good teams have a good young core as well. The Stillwater guy I was standing next to said they have 5 first years this year the most they have had in many years. He also said they had none last year so they have no returning A squirts. Wayzata only has 1 if I am not mistaken. The smaller programs all have 4 or 5 returners each year as they don't have the depth in any class that the large programs do.

The fact that Edina has that many young guys and are still that consistently good is pretty amazing. Their B teams are loaded as well. They will certainly be very good next year as well. Not sure if the depth will be like this year but they will be very good none the less.

No doubt they will be beaten in the future, their training regimen, time they put on the ice and keeping those kids together has helped them get ahead at this young age. They practice twice a day sometimes (morning and afternoon) as squirts! Overboard...maybe. Does it mean they can sustain their advantage...maybe maybe not.

The Edina Bantam A team outscored their opponenets, 6-2, 6-2, 9-1, 9-6 and 11-1, rolling to victory with no serious challenge, their high school is doing pretty well

, I'd say that yes, they can sustain their advantage.

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:53 am

DMom wrote:
Trout wrote:I believe there are 5 first years on that team (someone may correct me here but I think that is the case). It is amazing for a large program like this to have that many first years on the team.

I think several of the other good teams have a good young core as well. The Stillwater guy I was standing next to said they have 5 first years this year the most they have had in many years. He also said they had none last year so they have no returning A squirts. Wayzata only has 1 if I am not mistaken. The smaller programs all have 4 or 5 returners each year as they don't have the depth in any class that the large programs do.

The fact that Edina has that many young guys and are still that consistently good is pretty amazing. Their B teams are loaded as well. They will certainly be very good next year as well. Not sure if the depth will be like this year but they will be very good none the less.

No doubt they will be beaten in the future, their training regimen, time they put on the ice and keeping those kids together has helped them get ahead at this young age. They practice twice a day sometimes (morning and afternoon) as squirts! Overboard...maybe. Does it mean they can sustain their advantage...maybe maybe not.
The Edina Bantam A team outscored their opponenets, 6-2, 6-2, 9-1, 9-6 and 11-1, rolling to victory with no serious challenge, their high school is doing pretty well , I'd say that yes, they can sustain their advantage.

Many of these kids will be replaced by B Squirts that are not being burned out and move ins.

Trout · Post by **Trout** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:10 am

[size=9][color=red][quote="57special"]My son was a first year Edina Squirt B last year and is back in it. Thought he might have a chance to make the A team this year, but he didn't even get a chance.
All of the Edina Squirt B teams are pretty competitive this year. If you took the top four players off of each team you'd have a group that could compete with other A teams, and probably win at least half of their games. Probably the same could be said of Chaska and Wayzata, maybe Tonka.
I wish the stronger programs would field two A teams. I don't see the point in beating opponents 10-1 or 9-3 on a regular basis,as is happening on both the A and B level this year. Nobody wins in that scenario, IMO. And getting between 5-10 shots a game sucks for the goalies.[/quote][/color][/size]

Interestingly enough Tonka didn't even put 15 skaters on their team...do you really think they could have 2 A teams and compete at that level? Chaska, no way could they have 2 A teams.

I agree Edina could do it if they split their teams equally but they wouldn't win all their games so they just won't do that. I know their B teams are good but they tried an A1 and A2 a few years ago and that didn't work because the second team only won a handful of games. It would be the same this year, at the A level they would need a few go to kids on each team and the second group just wouldn't have that.

Nearly all the smaller programs are putting 13 or 14 skaters on their teams to be able to compete (keeps their best players on the ice every other shift...I watched them do it this weekend, Andover, STMA etc..) so it seems to be going the other way. If you watched the squirt teams this weekend I bet only 1/2 were a full 15 skaters and 2 goalies.

DMom - when I said can they maintain their advantage I meant beat everyone by 10 goals not be one of the top 2 or 3 in the state. They will remain very near the top for the long haul because of their depth...no doubt. They will not keep beating everyone 10-1 when the get older, the other teams will catch up and they will lose some games, it is just the nature of the animal. The Edina A Bantam team has lost some games and there are teams that can hang with them.

the_juiceman · Post by **the_juiceman** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:39 am

Trout wrote:
57special wrote:My son was a first year Edina Squirt B last year and is back in it. Thought he might have a chance to make the A team this year, but he didn't even get a chance.
All of the Edina Squirt B teams are pretty competitive this year. If you took the top four players off of each team you'd have a group that could compete with other A teams, and probably win at least half of their games. Probably the same could be said of Chaska and Wayzata, maybe Tonka.
I wish the stronger programs would field two A teams. I don't see the point in beating opponents 10-1 or 9-3 on a regular basis,as is happening on both the A and B level this year. Nobody wins in that scenario, IMO. And getting between 5-10 shots a game sucks for the goalies.

Interestingly enough Tonka didn't even put 15 skaters on their team...do you really think they could have 2 A teams and compete at that level? Chaska, no way could they have 2 A teams.

I agree Edina could do it if they split their teams equally but they wouldn't win all their games so they just won't do that. I know their B teams are good but they tried an A1 and A2 a few years ago and that didn't work because the second team only won a handful of games. It would be the same this year, at the A level they would need a few go to kids on each team and the second group just wouldn't have that.

Nearly all the smaller programs are putting 13 or 14 skaters on their teams to be able to compete (keeps their best players on the ice every other shift...I watched them do it this weekend, Andover, STMA etc..) so it seems to be going the other way. If you watched the squirt teams this weekend I bet only 1/2 were a full 15 skaters and 2 goalies.

DMom - when I said can they maintain their advantage I meant beat everyone by 10 goals not be one of the top 2 or 3 in the state. They will remain very near the top for the long haul because of their depth...no doubt. They will not keep beating everyone 10-1 when the get older, the other teams will catch up and they will lose some games, it is just the nature of the animal. The Edina A Bantam team has lost some games and there are teams that can hang with them.

sounds like it all comes down to winning--the hell with the development of all the kids--just the few. Typical Edina-like mentality

Snowmass · Post by **Snowmass** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:51 am

the_juiceman wrote:
Trout wrote:
57special wrote:My son was a first year Edina Squirt B last year and is back in it. Thought he might have a chance to make the A team this year, but he didn't even get a chance.
All of the Edina Squirt B teams are pretty competitive this year. If you took the top four players off of each team you'd have a group that could compete with other A teams, and probably win at least half of their games. Probably the same could be said of Chaska and Wayzata, maybe Tonka.
I wish the stronger programs would field two A teams. I don't see the point in beating opponents 10-1 or 9-3 on a regular basis,as is happening on both the A and B level this year. Nobody wins in that scenario, IMO. And getting between 5-10 shots a game sucks for the goalies.

Interestingly enough Tonka didn't even put 15 skaters on their team...do you really think they could have 2 A teams and compete at that level? Chaska, no way could they have 2 A teams.

I agree Edina could do it if they split their teams equally but they wouldn't win all their games so they just won't do that. I know their B teams are good but they tried an A1 and A2 a few years ago and that didn't work because the second team only won a handful of games. It would be the same this year, at the A level they would need a few go to kids on each team and the second group just wouldn't have that.

Nearly all the smaller programs are putting 13 or 14 skaters on their teams to be able to compete (keeps their best players on the ice every other shift...I watched them do it this weekend, Andover, STMA etc..) so it seems to be going the other way. If you watched the squirt teams this weekend I bet only 1/2 were a full 15 skaters and 2 goalies.

DMom - when I said can they maintain their advantage I meant beat everyone by 10 goals not be one of the top 2 or 3 in the state. They will remain very near the top for the long haul because of their depth...no doubt. They will not keep beating everyone 10-1 when the get older, the other teams will catch up and they will lose some games, it is just the nature of the animal. The Edina A Bantam team has lost some games and there are teams that can hang with them.
sounds like it all comes down to winning--the hell with the development of all the kids--just the few. Typical Edina-like mentality

Juiceman- take it uo with the Edina Association (I take it your an Edina guy)

HockeyDad41 · Post by **HockeyDad41** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:15 pm

MrBoDangles wrote:
DMom wrote:
Trout wrote:I believe there are 5 first years on that team (someone may correct me here but I think that is the case). It is amazing for a large program like this to have that many first years on the team.

I think several of the other good teams have a good young core as well. The Stillwater guy I was standing next to said they have 5 first years this year the most they have had in many years. He also said they had none last year so they have no returning A squirts. Wayzata only has 1 if I am not mistaken. The smaller programs all have 4 or 5 returners each year as they don't have the depth in any class that the large programs do.

The fact that Edina has that many young guys and are still that consistently good is pretty amazing. Their B teams are loaded as well. They will certainly be very good next year as well. Not sure if the depth will be like this year but they will be very good none the less.

No doubt they will be beaten in the future, their training regimen, time they put on the ice and keeping those kids together has helped them get ahead at this young age. They practice twice a day sometimes (morning and afternoon) as squirts! Overboard...maybe. Does it mean they can sustain their advantage...maybe maybe not.
The Edina Bantam A team outscored their opponenets, 6-2, 6-2, 9-1, 9-6 and 11-1, rolling to victory with no serious challenge, their high school is doing pretty well , I'd say that yes, they can sustain their advantage.
Many of these kids will be replaced by B Squirts that are not being burned out and move ins.

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:37 pm

HockeyDad41 wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:
DMom wrote: The Edina Bantam A team outscored their opponenets, 6-2, 6-2, 9-1, 9-6 and 11-1, rolling to victory with no serious challenge, their high school is doing pretty well , I'd say that yes, they can sustain their advantage.
Many of these kids will be replaced by B Squirts that are not being burned out and move ins.

Little do you know

O-townClown · Post by **O-townClown** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:21 pm

MrBoDangles wrote:Many of these kids will be replaced by B Squirts that are not being burned out and move ins.

Given their large numbers - 175 Pee Wees a few years ago - there's really no way around that. Kids get better at different rates. Of course the best Squirts aren't the same as the best Bantams.

That has nothing to do with Edina.