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Iranger33
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Post by Iranger33 »

Cujo Bardown isn't old enough to have a kid playing, has two brothers but thats it. But my take on the overtime winner was a snipe. Top goal scorer in tbe section bet him glove side. I felt bad for fhe seniors, they played a great game.

Best of luck to both NU and Luverne in the finals. Whoever wins make section 3 proud at the X.

Luverne earned some respect today in my opinion.
notTONIGHT
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Re: Marshall v. Luverne

Post by notTONIGHT »

cellyhard01 wrote:Did anyone see the shot from #19 in the 3rd period that swafford called a goal and then called it off, heard that it was in. Any replies?
Swoff was right on top of it. Goal judge immediately shook his head no, they conversed. Called it no goal. From center ice it sure looked like it had to go in, but the officials had a much better view.
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Re: Marshall v. Luverne

Post by p_cku »

cellyhard01 wrote:Did anyone see the shot from #19 in the 3rd period that swafford called a goal and then called it off, heard that it was in. Any replies?
I was at the game and had a great angle of the shot it never when in. The goal judge and ref got the call right. The Luverne Defense got his stick on it to defect it out.
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Post by p_cku »

Iranger33 wrote:Cujo Bardown isn't old enough to have a kid playing, has two brothers but thats it. But my take on the overtime winner was a snipe. Top goal scorer in tbe section bet him glove side. I felt bad for fhe seniors, they played a great game.

Best of luck to both NU and Luverne in the finals. Whoever wins make section 3 proud at the X.

Luverne earned some respect today in my opinion.

I totally agree with Hutch played their hearts out. But Brody shot was a snipe a big time goal. Hutch had him completely covered. Hats off to Brody but also to Hutch and their players who never gave a inch.
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Post by Grocery_Stick »

looks like bettman wont have much to talk about, good win luvurne, waiting to see what bettman consideres a legitimate win now.
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Post by 3A alum »

how many did peterson end up getting in the hutch game? the hub doesnt have the stats
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Post by notTONIGHT »

Grocery_Stick wrote:looks like bettman wont have much to talk about, good win luvurne, waiting to see what bettman consideres a legitimate win now.
Good question. Probably still doesn't get luverne any respect from some of the nuts on here.
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Post by cellyhard01 »

Well considering 75% of people on here are from luverne there's not to many people to get respect from. Do you guys ever talk about anything other than respect?
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Re: Marshall v. Luverne

Post by MHGr8ness »

p_cku wrote:
cellyhard01 wrote:Did anyone see the shot from #19 in the 3rd period that swafford called a goal and then called it off, heard that it was in. Any replies?
I was at the game and had a great angle of the shot it never when in. The goal judge and ref got the call right. The Luverne Defense got his stick on it to defect it out.
I was literally sitting on the line... no goal. The defenseman got to it first.
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Post by MHGr8ness »

3A alum wrote:how many did peterson end up getting in the hutch game? the hub doesnt have the stats
one goal. he was shut down and not a factor until the last goal. i would say that the best player for NU was 10 and 16 for Hutch
Bettman's Bender
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Post by Bettman's Bender »

The real winner of the Marshall Luverne games was New Ulm....... My bashes to luverne up to this point were blind but now as I watch...

The team doesnt even have a break out. The first kid that gets the puck tries to skate it coast to coast... Luverne did not make 3 consecutive passes one time the entire game. good luck against new ulm. Luverne won and goaltending was likely the factor in the game.. shots 31-19 in favor of marshall. Marshall has no finish and cant win faceoffs. Luverne capitalized on power plays.

I think one would be foolish to say Luverne was the better team on the ice. but they won so that really doesnt matter.
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Post by 3A alum »

Bettman's Bender wrote:The real winner of the Marshall Luverne games was New Ulm....... My bashes to luverne up to this point were blind but now as I watch...

The team doesnt even have a break out. The first kid that gets the puck tries to skate it coast to coast... Luverne did not make 3 consecutive passes one time the entire game. good luck against new ulm. Luverne won and goaltending was likely the factor in the game.. shots 31-19 in favor of marshall. Marshall has no finish and cant win faceoffs. Luverne capitalized on power plays.

I think one would be foolish to say Luverne was the better team on the ice. but they won so that really doesnt matter.
I agree Bettman. new ulm will overcome luverne with their speed and passing
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Post by bardown27 »

Iranger33 wrote:Cujo Bardown isn't old enough to have a kid playing, has two brothers but thats it. But my take on the overtime winner was a snipe. Top goal scorer in tbe section bet him glove side. I felt bad for fhe seniors, they played a great game.

Best of luck to both NU and Luverne in the finals. Whoever wins make section 3 proud at the X.

Luverne earned some respect today in my opinion.
Iranger33, too bad you have NO IDEA who i am. you think im one of the older cowger's. wrong.
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Post by Bettman's Bender »

bardown27 wrote:
Iranger33 wrote:Cujo Bardown isn't old enough to have a kid playing, has two brothers but thats it. But my take on the overtime winner was a snipe. Top goal scorer in tbe section bet him glove side. I felt bad for fhe seniors, they played a great game.

Best of luck to both NU and Luverne in the finals. Whoever wins make section 3 proud at the X.

Luverne earned some respect today in my opinion.
Iranger33, too bad you have NO IDEA who i am. you think im one of the older cowger's. wrong.
The shot was a snipe... but in all honesty... me being a goalie, from my perspective you cannot allow that goal... From that sharp an angle you really should not get scored on...no excuses. It was a weak goal but he will improve he is only a sophomore.

another note.. first time i saw bordy peterson this year.... I wasnt impressed. the talent level in this section has fallen quite a bit in the last few years.
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Post by Cujo »

Im a big newspaper guy. I like to read someones opinion that was actually at the game.

This is the NU-Hutch game. Even NU knows they got away with one.
http://www.nujournal.com/page/content.d ... l?nav=5013

Hutch and Marshalls articles arent up yet. As soon as they get up it would be nice to get a link to it. Also Luvernes newspaper makes you subscribe. So if anyone could copy and paste the article on there id be great!
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Post by SquareWheels »

setterholm makes me laugh
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Post by MHGr8ness »

Bettman's Bender wrote:
bardown27 wrote:
Iranger33 wrote:Cujo Bardown isn't old enough to have a kid playing, has two brothers but thats it. But my take on the overtime winner was a snipe. Top goal scorer in tbe section bet him glove side. I felt bad for fhe seniors, they played a great game.

Best of luck to both NU and Luverne in the finals. Whoever wins make section 3 proud at the X.

Luverne earned some respect today in my opinion.
Iranger33, too bad you have NO IDEA who i am. you think im one of the older cowger's. wrong.
The shot was a snipe... but in all honesty... me being a goalie, from my perspective you cannot allow that goal... From that sharp an angle you really should not get scored on...no excuses. It was a weak goal but he will improve he is only a sophomore.

another note.. first time i saw bordy peterson this year.... I wasnt impressed. the talent level in this section has fallen quite a bit in the last few years.
I agree with you on both points. It was a snipe, but he shouldn't have had an opening anywhere from that angle.

I had expected Peterson to really stand out after seeing his stats, but he really did nothing other than that one shot.
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Post by Section 3A HockeyScout »

Well it was a very fun day @ Don Roberts Ice Arena in Gustavus for Section 3A Semi-final Saturday.

Both games had different elements about them that made them entertaining to watch. Now we are down to just Two Teams left. A traditional 3A Power and a newcomer to the big dance known as the Section Championship.

Saturday Semi-Finals Recap
New Ulm Area 4 Hutchinson 3 OT
This game was all Hutchinson to start they came out with a jump in their step and played body on New Ulm perfectly. The Tigers jumped out to a quick 1 to 0 on a goal by Senior Trace Adams and had control of the play early. New Ulm Area’s other Peterson (9th grader Wyatt) answered for New Ulm Area with a goal. Then Hutchinson took 2 penalties in a corner scrum and gave New Ulm Area a 5-3 power play.

New Ulm Area converted one goal on the 5-3 in the 2nd period to take a 2 to 1 lead. However, after that it was Hutchinson. The Tigers took over the game and were eventually able to jump out to a 3-2 lead on goals by Cowger (A Snipe from the point) and the younger Adams. New Ulm Area was able to rally on goal by Blake Neuman (Who I thought along with Banal were New Ulm’s top Players). Once New Ulm scored the goal to tie the game at 3 I really thought the Eagles picked it up notch and I thought started to take back control of the game.

The game was eventually sent to overtime and as has been talked about Brody Peterson finally showed up and buried a shot to send the Eagles back to the Section 3A Championship.

Hutchinson gave a great effort and outplayed New Ulm Area much of the afternoon. Their undoing was that they simply ran out of gas. They dropped down to playing just two lines early and they had no legs by the end. Also, Cowger was on the ice seemingly the whole third period and overtime session. I was impressed with Hutch they gave it everything they had they played with heart and left it all on the ice.

New Ulm got lucky in this one and they know it. They will need to play better which I think they will. Sometimes the true test of the really good teams are even when you are not playing you’re A-game finding a way to win. The Eagles did that yesterday.

Luverne 4 Marshall 3
This game was a good ole fashion grudge match. The pace was much different then the first game. Early on I thought Marshall was in big trouble they were letting Luverne fly around them. Marshall took a penalty and very quickly Luverne was up 1 to 0 on a Cody Christensen power play goal.

After that though Marshall regrouped and started to play the body much more efficiently they were able to slow the Cardinals down especially in the neutral zone. Then the Tigers caught a break as they were able to score a rebound goal that seemed to be misplayed by the Luverne net minder Meyer and Beau Mikel tied it up 1 to 1. Shortly after that Luverne took a penalty and Quinn Horvath with a snipe top corner put the Tigers up 2 to 1.Shots were even like 9-8 in Marshall’s favor.
The 2nd period was not much fun as a fan to watch as each team only registered a few shots. The turning point in the game was a dumb 5-minute major penalty on Marshall. It was deserved and it took all the momentum away from the Tigers. Dylan Skattum netted a Power play goal for Luverne and not much later Marshall took another unnecessary penalty and gave Luverne a 5 on 3 power play heading into the third period.

Luverne capitalized on their 5 on 3 power play on a goal by Skyler Wenninger and the Luverne looked to have all the momentum. Then came the part of the game where the Tigers lost it. Over the next 12 minutes of the Third Period Marshall was given 9 minutes of Power Play time. Not only did they not score once they also gave up a short-handed breakaway and Jonny Solma capitalized to make it 4 to 2. Give Marshall credit they didn’t quit and made it interesting late Horvath getting his second goal with about 1 minute remaining in the game. Then Marshall got a flurry of shots in the last minute but Kendall Meyer made some big saves and the Luverne Cardinals were heading to their first section final in boys hockey in school history.

Only reason for the shot total difference was because of the third period and the 9 minutes of power play time that Marshall had. Meyer made some big saves when his team needed it in the net and the Campion kid didn’t make those saves for his team.

Marshall was awful on special teams they gave up 3 power play goals and 1 shorthanded goal. They were handed 9 MINUTES OF POWER PLAY TIME in the 3rd period and did nothing with it (Actually gave up a goal). They can complain about an apparent goal like everyone else on here I saw the play the Maxwell kid stopped the puck from going in it was great No goal call. Marshall has no one to blame but themselves they blew an extremely great opportunity for their program.

Congrats to Luverne you have to be given respect now but even the Luverne faithful on here know they must play a much better game on Friday if they want to keep up with New Ulm Area.

It was a fun day of hockey and we are down to Two Teams! I will be back later with my Section 3A Championship Preview!
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Post by CherryPicker99 »

Cujo, here is the article from the Luverne Star Herald.

Hockey boys earn berth in title tilt

By John Rittenhouse, Sports Editor


The Luverne boys’ hockey team earned the right to compete in its first Section 3A Boys’ Hockey Tournament championship game in program history after opening the event with a pair of victories.

The third-seeded Cardinals rolled to a seven-goal home win over No. 6 Litchfield-Dassel-Cokato during a quarterfinal-round game at the Blue Mound Ice Arena Thursday. The Cardinals pulled out a one-goal victory over second-seeded Marshall Saturday at Gustavus Adolphus College in St. Peter.

Luverne returns to St. Peter Friday to play in the Section 3A championship game at 7:30 p.m.

The Cards meet top-seeded New Ulm in showdown between two teams on a roll.

The 21-3-2 Cardinals have won seven straight games and have not lost a contest in 18 outings. The 16-11 Eagles have won seven straight games and enters the contest two-time defending section champions.

Luverne 4, Marshall 3

The Cardinals moved into the championship game of the Section 3A Tournament for the first time in school history by nipping the Tigers 4-3 during Saturday’s semifinals in St. Peter.

Along with advancing to the section title tilt for the first time, the Cardinals set a program record by winning their 21st game of the season.

The play of Luverne’s power-play and penalty-killing units proved to be the difference in the game.

The Cards registered three power-play tallies in the game, including two goals when Marshall incurred a five-minute major penalty late in the second period and early in the third stanza.

Luverne’s penalty-killing unit registered one short-handed goal and kept the Tigers scores during three of their four power-play situations in the game.

It was the five-minute major penalty Marshall drew at the 14:31 mark of the second period that eventually led to the Tigers’ demise.

Trailing 2-1 before the penalty, Luverne senior Dylan Skattum tied the game at two when he scored a power-play goal with 1:07 remaining in the second period.

Cardinal Skyler Wenninger put the Cardinals in front 3-2 when he scored the second goal of the same power-play situation 45 seconds into the second period.

The score remained 3-2 until Luverne’s Jonny Solma netted an unassisted, short-handed tally with 7:31 left in the game.

The second goal of the game by Marshall’s Quinn Horvath made it a 4-3 score at the 15:59 mark of the third period, but the Cards blanked the Tigers in the final 1:01 of the contest to prevail by one goal.

Luverne’s Cody Christensen opened the scoring 1:34 into the game when he netted his team’s first of three power-play goals.

Beau Mikel tied the game for Marshall at the 8:20 mark of the first period before Horvath netted a power-play goal with 6:29 remaining in the stanza to give the Tigers a 2-1 edge.

Kendall Meyer made 34 saves in net for the Cards, who were outshot 37-25 in the game.

Solma, Christensen, Austin Maxwell, Gunnar Olson, Logan Norman and Jordan Dingmann registered one assist each for the winners.
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Post by Cujo »

Thanks CherryPicker!

Here is Marshalls newspapers take on the game.
http://www.marshallindependent.com/page ... l?nav=5021
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Post by sssample54 »

the games at the gac were fun and to be honest the extent of my hockey experience comes from watching my kids through high school. But I'll comment anyway. In the new ulm game i was struck by the way new ulm approached this game it was the very same way as they approached their game with marshall last year and once again the got away with it. Setterholm is to good a coach to let this happen. I was surprised (pleasantly) by Hutch's ability to stay in the game, I was expecting a blowout. In the second game Luverne came out the way everyone said they would "flying" and just like the st peter game they never quit. I thought Marshall came out slow again and just like last year made stupid mistakes. Last year a defensemen screened his own goalie and then jumped out of the way of Hoffmann's slap shot allowing new ulm i the game. this year a defensemen drops the puck right on his goalies doorstep and allows luverne to score. marshalls goalie hacks somebody and draws a penalty to bury Marshalls chance of catching up. I read here that Luverne never passes the puck but just carries the puck from one end of the ice to the other? Does marshalls 7 ever pass the puck or does he think a slap shot from mid-ice to the goalies chest is a pass?
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Post by dangle snipe n' celly »

sssample54 wrote:the games at the gac were fun and to be honest the extent of my hockey experience comes from watching my kids through high school. But I'll comment anyway. In the new ulm game i was struck by the way new ulm approached this game it was the very same way as they approached their game with marshall last year and once again the got away with it. Setterholm is to good a coach to let this happen. I was surprised (pleasantly) by Hutch's ability to stay in the game, I was expecting a blowout. In the second game Luverne came out the way everyone said they would "flying" and just like the st peter game they never quit. I thought Marshall came out slow again and just like last year made stupid mistakes. Last year a defensemen screened his own goalie and then jumped out of the way of Hoffmann's slap shot allowing new ulm i the game. this year a defensemen drops the puck right on his goalies doorstep and allows luverne to score. marshalls goalie hacks somebody and draws a penalty to bury Marshalls chance of catching up. I read here that Luverne never passes the puck but just carries the puck from one end of the ice to the other? Does marshalls 7 ever pass the puck or does he think a slap shot from mid-ice to the goalies chest is a pass?

Well considering you don't really know much about hockey I wouldn't be on here bashing any players considering 7 from Marshall is better than anyone from luverne. Also its called a dump in or a shot, but you probably don't know what that means. Knowing how hard his shot is, it has a very good chance to go in on a weak goaiie like Meyer.

If you're gonna bash on someone or a team you need to know something about hockey, other than just being a biased parent from luverne who only has watched his kid who probably isn't any good.
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Post by new2coachin »

dangle snipe n' celly wrote:
sssample54 wrote:the games at the gac were fun and to be honest the extent of my hockey experience comes from watching my kids through high school. But I'll comment anyway. In the new ulm game i was struck by the way new ulm approached this game it was the very same way as they approached their game with marshall last year and once again the got away with it. Setterholm is to good a coach to let this happen. I was surprised (pleasantly) by Hutch's ability to stay in the game, I was expecting a blowout. In the second game Luverne came out the way everyone said they would "flying" and just like the st peter game they never quit. I thought Marshall came out slow again and just like last year made stupid mistakes. Last year a defensemen screened his own goalie and then jumped out of the way of Hoffmann's slap shot allowing new ulm i the game. this year a defensemen drops the puck right on his goalies doorstep and allows luverne to score. marshalls goalie hacks somebody and draws a penalty to bury Marshalls chance of catching up. I read here that Luverne never passes the puck but just carries the puck from one end of the ice to the other? Does marshalls 7 ever pass the puck or does he think a slap shot from mid-ice to the goalies chest is a pass?

Well considering you don't really know much about hockey I wouldn't be on here bashing any players considering 7 from Marshall is better than anyone from luverne. Also its called a dump in or a shot, but you probably don't know what that means. Knowing how hard his shot is, it has a very good chance to go in on a weak goaiie like Meyer.

If you're gonna bash on someone or a team you need to know something about hockey, other than just being a biased parent from luverne who only has watched his kid who probably isn't any good.
wow...shocking, another disgruntled Marshall fan :roll: . Hutch looked like they had the best team last Saturday, unfortunately their speed & ability to move the puck does not translate into goals, really fun team to watch. New Ulm & Luverne are pretty evenly matched....who will choke? Marshall, sorry, you were the #4 team :lol:
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Post by CherryPicker99 »

dangle snipe n' celly after your last comment I'm sure several people on this forum are questioning your knowledge of the game. 7 for Marshall is a good defenseman not the best and Meyer is not a weak goalie. You would be better off keeping some comments to yourself. People making comments like that make this whole section look dumb.
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Post by Bettman's Bender »

75% of ppl on here dont know diddly about hockey.

If you are going to dump it in, why not put it on goal. #7 knows how crummy the goalies are in this section. Especially when you can shoot hard. Ask litchs tendy about that. Kid got his cage rattled by a 150foot slapshot.

Marshall and hutchs passing and speed did not translate to enough goals to win games i will agree with that. They just dont have players that know how to score. That killer instinct, or quick release on a sick wrist shot. Either one. Neither team has.

marshall's #7 is probably the best pure passer puck moving defenseman in this section.. 3A scout, hutchtostate, and others who actually know hockey would agree. #7 is asked to do too much because he is the only true strong player on his team which is why he was asked to go create offense. Put him on a team with kids on his level and he is a stay at home puck moving defenseman with a high positive plus minus. "Nick Schultz" type defenseman.

Meyer is weak. Every goalie in this section is weak. Meyer goes into a glove side half-V save for every save he makes.. His hip flexibilty is lacking. Which means for any given save his first move of his bodies center of gravity pushes him down and toward his glove, which would make you think he might have a decent glove, but he really doesnt as he would have got beat on his glove side by a 8thgrade players wrist shot from the blue line if it were not for an alert defenseman and the first goal where he just straight up dropped it and left in the crease for Mikel to tap in. If you want to beat meyer look at his blocker and shoot directly at it. 80 of his saves he will naturally move his blocker out of the way just because he has taught his body to react that way first then react to the puck. Or just shoot at his glove as well that seemed to cause trouble. So basically... just shoot it.

The secret to beating any goalie in this section is just put the puck on goal... Anyone at attendance to those semi-final games would agree that there wasnt really a plethora of beautiful goals. Just pucks that got put on goal that just ended up in the net. Goal is a goal. Shoot. the. puck.

3 of luvernes goals just found the net. (1 nice move on a breakaway) = 4 goals.

Marshalls 3 goals came on garbage rebounds and a shot from a very sharp angle.

Brody Petersons game winner, just a shot from a sharp angle. finds the net.

I hope luverne makes it to state so they can finally see what true hockey is. So the parents on here can get a taste of real hockey for the first time in their lives so the 25% of ppl on this forum that actually know hockey dont have to make up for the 75% that are largely ignorant and only know what is played in Blue Mound Arena. It really is a great game of speed and elaborate passing that no one in that town knows the least of.
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