Monday, 2/4 Duluth East at Cloquet

[northwoods oldtimer]

YIKES!! CEC made a poor showing. Wrong time of year to be playing this way
Another year with East in St. Paul.......BORING!
Got to hand it to em though, they get the job done in 7aa more often than not.

[TheNightman]

YIKES!! CEC made a poor showing. Wrong time of year to be playing this way
Another year with East in St. Paul.......BORING!
Got to hand it to em though, they get the job done in 7aa more often than not.

Andover?

[northwoods oldtimer]

YIKES!! CEC made a poor showing. Wrong time of year to be playing this way
Another year with East in St. Paul.......BORING!
Got to hand it to em though, they get the job done in 7aa more often than not.

Andover?

Who is that?

[blueblood]

The team that won the December game vs, the Hounds.

[WarmUpTheBus]

YIKES!! CEC made a poor showing. Wrong time of year to be playing this way
Another year with East in St. Paul.......BORING!
Got to hand it to em though, they get the job done in 7aa more often than not.

Andover?

Who is that?

They're one of the teams who beat East this year.

[kniven]

YIKES!! CEC made a poor showing. Wrong time of year to be playing this way
Another year with East in St. Paul.......BORING!
Got to hand it to em though, they get the job done in 7aa more often than not.

Andover?

Who is that?

What’s an Andover? Sounds like dog food to me. Does it come in a can,soft serve, or just,dry, in those big 100 pound bags.

[GoldenBear]

Andover, Andover send Karl right over!!

[kniven]

Andover, Andover send Karl right over!!

And over there, you will find a pile of wood to cut.....

[Mite-dad]

They score goals over andover andover.

[northwoods oldtimer]

I hear that the 2019 version of Andover is no 'Randover' of teams past.
Time will tell if they can "rundover" over the Hounds in section 7AA playoffs.

[kniven]

I hear that the 2019 version of Andover is no 'Randover' of teams past.
Time will tell if they can "rundover" over the Hounds in section 7AA playoffs.

It sure will be a good game, though.

[northwoods oldtimer]

I hear that the 2019 version of Andover is no 'Randover' of teams past.
Time will tell if they can "rundover" over the Hounds in section 7AA playoffs.

It sure will be a good game, though.

I will lean towards East getting the revenge win when it matters the most.
They are tough out on their home ice in the playoffs.

[hockey59]

I hear that the 2019 version of Andover is no 'Randover' of teams past.
Time will tell if they can "rundover" over the Hounds in section 7AA playoffs.

It sure will be a good game, though.

I will lean towards East getting the revenge win when it matters the most.
They are tough out on their home ice in the playoffs.

Everything you said about DE being tough at home in the playoffs is true & they very well may win 7AA in the end. But Andover is REALLY GOOD...so we shall see

[east hockey]

It sure will be a good game, though.

I will lean towards East getting the revenge win when it matters the most.
They are tough out on their home ice in the playoffs.

Everything you said about DE being tough at home in the playoffs is true & they very well may win 7AA in the end. But Andover is REALLY GOOD...so we shall see

Not to mention that Duluth's arenas in the section playoffs aren't in Andover's head. Like some teams.

I would consider it a fairly big upset for East to come out of 7AA this years.

Lee

[hockey59]

I will lean towards East getting the revenge win when it matters the most.
They are tough out on their home ice in the playoffs.

Everything you said about DE being tough at home in the playoffs is true & they very well may win 7AA in the end. But Andover is REALLY GOOD...so we shall see

Not to mention that Duluth's arenas in the section playoffs aren't in Andover's head. Like some teams.

I would consider it a fairly big upset for East to come out of 7AA this years.

Lee

Me too...but they’ve done it before. I simply think the northern 7AA teams have went to the well enough times at this point & came out on top...that a team like this years version of Andover is due to flip that script.

[east hockey]

Everything you said about DE being tough at home in the playoffs is true & they very well may win 7AA in the end. But Andover is REALLY GOOD...so we shall see

Not to mention that Duluth's arenas in the section playoffs aren't in Andover's head. Like some teams.

I would consider it a fairly big upset for East to come out of 7AA this years.

Lee

Me too...but they’ve done it before. I simply think the northern 7AA teams have went to the well enough times at this point & came out on top...that a team like this years version of Andover is due to flip that script.

They're certainly good enough.

Lee

[blueline_6]

Everything you said about DE being tough at home in the playoffs is true & they very well may win 7AA in the end. But Andover is REALLY GOOD...so we shall see

Not to mention that Duluth's arenas in the section playoffs aren't in Andover's head. Like some teams.

I would consider it a fairly big upset for East to come out of 7AA this years.

Lee

Me too...but they’ve done it before. I simply think the northern 7AA teams have went to the well enough times at this point & came out on top...that a team like this years version of Andover is due to flip that script.

Yes, like the Elks in '10....oops I meant Elks in '15, that was their year....um, wait no it wasn't....oh, I got it now, Elks in '17, they were rolling that year...rolled right into an orange bus...

Andover is good this year, but surviving the Amsoil meatgrinder in a 7AA final is something the "Southern" teams haven't been able to figure out, including the Huskies last year and in '12.

[Duluthguy]

Not to mention that Duluth's arenas in the section playoffs aren't in Andover's head. Like some teams.

I would consider it a fairly big upset for East to come out of 7AA this years.

Lee

Me too...but they’ve done it before. I simply think the northern 7AA teams have went to the well enough times at this point & came out on top...that a team like this years version of Andover is due to flip that script.

Yes, like the Elks in '10....oops I meant Elks in '15, that was their year....um, wait no it wasn't....oh, I got it now, Elks in '17, they were rolling that year...rolled right into an orange bus...

Andover is good this year, but surviving the Amsoil meatgrinder in a 7AA final is something the "Southern" teams haven't been able to figure out, including the Huskies last year and in '12.

Andover has a different mindset about playing at Amsoil than Elk River ever did. I finally had the chance to re-watch some of last year's state tournament and Andover's Mark Manney was interviewed. Mike McGraw asked him about having to go up to Duluth to play the section tournament with the implication that it was unfair to southern teams. Here's what Manney had to say, with a reference to the fact that Andover wanted to play the semi-final against Elk River at Amsoil:

"The semi finals and finals are in Duluth which a lot of people think is unfair but in Andover, we relish that opportunity. We like to get on the bus and go and we prepared for it by going to Moorhead, Grand Rapids, and Duluth this year. We felt like if we had any chance to win the section we had to find a way to win on the road. So we played Elk River up there. We had an opportunity to move that game to the Cities. My input was that we’re going to go to Duluth because if we happened to beat a great Elk River team, we’d have no chance to beat Duluth East unless we’d already been in that building."

Of course, this hasn't been Elk River's posture. They hate hitting the road. This year, their furthest road game is in Edina, which isn't atypical in the odd-numbered years when they don't go to Duluth to play East. Last year, other than playing the Hounds in Duluth, their longest road trip was to Prior Lake, which again, isn't atypical for an even-numbered year. I realize Elk River and Prior Lake are at opposite ends of town, but it's not like going to Duluth, and it's much more about the mindset than the actual miles on the road.

By the way, it isn't just East that beats Elk River at Amsoil. Last year it was Andover, and in 2017 it was Grand Rapids.

Anyone who's been around athletics at any level, but particularly at the high schools and below, knows how important the mental approach is to success. So when Lee says "Duluth's arenas in the section playoffs aren't in Andover's head," he's absolutely correct, as evidenced by Coach Manney's comments--not to mention their performance in the finals last year.

[MWS coach]

Me too...but they’ve done it before. I simply think the northern 7AA teams have went to the well enough times at this point & came out on top...that a team like this years version of Andover is due to flip that script.

Yes, like the Elks in '10....oops I meant Elks in '15, that was their year....um, wait no it wasn't....oh, I got it now, Elks in '17, they were rolling that year...rolled right into an orange bus...

Andover is good this year, but surviving the Amsoil meatgrinder in a 7AA final is something the "Southern" teams haven't been able to figure out, including the Huskies last year and in '12.

Andover has a different mindset about playing at Amsoil than Elk River ever did. I finally had the chance to re-watch some of last year's state tournament and Andover's Mark Manney was interviewed. Mike McGraw asked him about having to go up to Duluth to play the section tournament with the implication that it was unfair to southern teams. Here's what Manney had to say, with a reference to the fact that Andover wanted to play the semi-final against Elk River at Amsoil:

"The semi finals and finals are in Duluth which a lot of people think is unfair but in Andover, we relish that opportunity. We like to get on the bus and go and we prepared for it by going to Moorhead, Grand Rapids, and Duluth this year. We felt like if we had any chance to win the section we had to find a way to win on the road. So we played Elk River up there. We had an opportunity to move that game to the Cities. My input was that we’re going to go to Duluth because if we happened to beat a great Elk River team, we’d have no chance to beat Duluth East unless we’d already been in that building."

Of course, this hasn't been Elk River's posture. They hate hitting the road. This year, their furthest road game is in Edina, which isn't atypical in the odd-numbered years when they don't go to Duluth to play East. Last year, other than playing the Hounds in Duluth, their longest road trip was to Prior Lake, which again, isn't atypical for an even-numbered year. I realize Elk River and Prior Lake are at opposite ends of town, but it's not like going to Duluth, and it's much more about the mindset than the actual miles on the road.

By the way, it isn't just East that beats Elk River at Amsoil. Last year it was Andover, and in 2017 it was Grand Rapids.

Anyone who's been around athletics at any level, but particularly at the high schools and below, knows how important the mental approach is to success. So when Lee says "Duluth's arenas in the section playoffs aren't in Andover's head," he's absolutely correct, as evidenced by Coach Manney's comments--not to mention their performance in the finals last year.

What does a Duluthguy know about Elk River's players mindset about playing at Amsoil? Clearly nothing......Andover performance in the finals last year? hmmm did they somehow win that game now? Yes played well and took FEast to the edge but still came up short and correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it the pound puppies at the X?

[blueline_6]

Me too...but they’ve done it before. I simply think the northern 7AA teams have went to the well enough times at this point & came out on top...that a team like this years version of Andover is due to flip that script.

Yes, like the Elks in '10....oops I meant Elks in '15, that was their year....um, wait no it wasn't....oh, I got it now, Elks in '17, they were rolling that year...rolled right into an orange bus...

Andover is good this year, but surviving the Amsoil meatgrinder in a 7AA final is something the "Southern" teams haven't been able to figure out, including the Huskies last year and in '12.

Andover has a different mindset about playing at Amsoil than Elk River ever did. I finally had the chance to re-watch some of last year's state tournament and Andover's Mark Manney was interviewed. Mike McGraw asked him about having to go up to Duluth to play the section tournament with the implication that it was unfair to southern teams. Here's what Manney had to say, with a reference to the fact that Andover wanted to play the semi-final against Elk River at Amsoil:

"The semi finals and finals are in Duluth which a lot of people think is unfair but in Andover, we relish that opportunity. We like to get on the bus and go and we prepared for it by going to Moorhead, Grand Rapids, and Duluth this year. We felt like if we had any chance to win the section we had to find a way to win on the road. So we played Elk River up there. We had an opportunity to move that game to the Cities. My input was that we’re going to go to Duluth because if we happened to beat a great Elk River team, we’d have no chance to beat Duluth East unless we’d already been in that building."

Of course, this hasn't been Elk River's posture. They hate hitting the road. This year, their furthest road game is in Edina, which isn't atypical in the odd-numbered years when they don't go to Duluth to play East. Last year, other than playing the Hounds in Duluth, their longest road trip was to Prior Lake, which again, isn't atypical for an even-numbered year. I realize Elk River and Prior Lake are at opposite ends of town, but it's not like going to Duluth, and it's much more about the mindset than the actual miles on the road.

By the way, it isn't just East that beats Elk River at Amsoil. Last year it was Andover, and in 2017 it was Grand Rapids.

Anyone who's been around athletics at any level, but particularly at the high schools and below, knows how important the mental approach is to success. So when Lee says "Duluth's arenas in the section playoffs aren't in Andover's head," he's absolutely correct, as evidenced by Coach Manney's comments--not to mention their performance in the finals last year.

To say all of this is one thing, but to actually beat a 218 team at Amsoil in a 7AA final game has yet to be done by either Andover or Elk River. Basically what I'm saying is I'll believe it when I see it. I hope I see it this year, because then maybe it will actually take away some of the Amsoil mystique. But until it actually happens, I'm not holding my breath.

[Duluthguy]

Yes, like the Elks in '10....oops I meant Elks in '15, that was their year....um, wait no it wasn't....oh, I got it now, Elks in '17, they were rolling that year...rolled right into an orange bus...

Andover is good this year, but surviving the Amsoil meatgrinder in a 7AA final is something the "Southern" teams haven't been able to figure out, including the Huskies last year and in '12.

Andover has a different mindset about playing at Amsoil than Elk River ever did. I finally had the chance to re-watch some of last year's state tournament and Andover's Mark Manney was interviewed. Mike McGraw asked him about having to go up to Duluth to play the section tournament with the implication that it was unfair to southern teams. Here's what Manney had to say, with a reference to the fact that Andover wanted to play the semi-final against Elk River at Amsoil:

"The semi finals and finals are in Duluth which a lot of people think is unfair but in Andover, we relish that opportunity. We like to get on the bus and go and we prepared for it by going to Moorhead, Grand Rapids, and Duluth this year. We felt like if we had any chance to win the section we had to find a way to win on the road. So we played Elk River up there. We had an opportunity to move that game to the Cities. My input was that we’re going to go to Duluth because if we happened to beat a great Elk River team, we’d have no chance to beat Duluth East unless we’d already been in that building."

Of course, this hasn't been Elk River's posture. They hate hitting the road. This year, their furthest road game is in Edina, which isn't atypical in the odd-numbered years when they don't go to Duluth to play East. Last year, other than playing the Hounds in Duluth, their longest road trip was to Prior Lake, which again, isn't atypical for an even-numbered year. I realize Elk River and Prior Lake are at opposite ends of town, but it's not like going to Duluth, and it's much more about the mindset than the actual miles on the road.

By the way, it isn't just East that beats Elk River at Amsoil. Last year it was Andover, and in 2017 it was Grand Rapids.

Anyone who's been around athletics at any level, but particularly at the high schools and below, knows how important the mental approach is to success. So when Lee says "Duluth's arenas in the section playoffs aren't in Andover's head," he's absolutely correct, as evidenced by Coach Manney's comments--not to mention their performance in the finals last year.

What does a Duluthguy know about Elk River's players mindset about playing at Amsoil? Clearly nothing......Andover performance in the finals last year? hmmm did they somehow win that game now? Yes played well and took FEast to the edge but still came up short and correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it the pound puppies at the X?

I hear you, Coach. Mindset? No one can be sure. The point is, I like Manney's approach of "we relish the opportunity." Maybe that's what Sarsland, Roberts, et al were telling the Elks all along, but that's not what we have heard on this board over the years, only complaints. And ER has also been reluctant to play outside the Metro when their most important games of the year are played elsewhere. Andover isn't following that approach either, as evidenced by Coach Manney's remarks. Whatever advantages the northern teams have at Amsoil, Manney is working to mitigate them. I like that.

As for Andover's performance last year? Nothing to sneeze at. You're right, they fell short, but they took East to the brink, and were a"heartbeat away" from State last year. And that East team was pretty good.

[hockey59]

Yes, like the Elks in '10....oops I meant Elks in '15, that was their year....um, wait no it wasn't....oh, I got it now, Elks in '17, they were rolling that year...rolled right into an orange bus...

Andover is good this year, but surviving the Amsoil meatgrinder in a 7AA final is something the "Southern" teams haven't been able to figure out, including the Huskies last year and in '12.

Andover has a different mindset about playing at Amsoil than Elk River ever did. I finally had the chance to re-watch some of last year's state tournament and Andover's Mark Manney was interviewed. Mike McGraw asked him about having to go up to Duluth to play the section tournament with the implication that it was unfair to southern teams. Here's what Manney had to say, with a reference to the fact that Andover wanted to play the semi-final against Elk River at Amsoil:

"The semi finals and finals are in Duluth which a lot of people think is unfair but in Andover, we relish that opportunity. We like to get on the bus and go and we prepared for it by going to Moorhead, Grand Rapids, and Duluth this year. We felt like if we had any chance to win the section we had to find a way to win on the road. So we played Elk River up there. We had an opportunity to move that game to the Cities. My input was that we’re going to go to Duluth because if we happened to beat a great Elk River team, we’d have no chance to beat Duluth East unless we’d already been in that building."

Of course, this hasn't been Elk River's posture. They hate hitting the road. This year, their furthest road game is in Edina, which isn't atypical in the odd-numbered years when they don't go to Duluth to play East. Last year, other than playing the Hounds in Duluth, their longest road trip was to Prior Lake, which again, isn't atypical for an even-numbered year. I realize Elk River and Prior Lake are at opposite ends of town, but it's not like going to Duluth, and it's much more about the mindset than the actual miles on the road.

By the way, it isn't just East that beats Elk River at Amsoil. Last year it was Andover, and in 2017 it was Grand Rapids.

Anyone who's been around athletics at any level, but particularly at the high schools and below, knows how important the mental approach is to success. So when Lee says "Duluth's arenas in the section playoffs aren't in Andover's head," he's absolutely correct, as evidenced by Coach Manney's comments--not to mention their performance in the finals last year.

What does a Duluthguy know about Elk River's players mindset about playing at Amsoil? Clearly nothing......Andover performance in the finals last year? hmmm did they somehow win that game now? Yes played well and took FEast to the edge but still came up short and correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it the pound puppies at the X?

To be fair to ER, the 2017 lost to a GR team that went on to beating an EP team they lost to (the year before) which included CM in route to winning AA State. The one that truly got away (sorry again for the reminder MWS) was 2015