Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:45 am
Elaborate? PM me if you prefer to keep it quiet for now.BlueGoose5 wrote:The St. Cloud Tech coach is in hot water with the school administration.
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Elaborate? PM me if you prefer to keep it quiet for now.BlueGoose5 wrote:The St. Cloud Tech coach is in hot water with the school administration.
Are the majority of this year's bantams sticking around or will kids leave, like the Torrel kid did?StarsHockey wrote:i havent heard of any names. i know the jv coach from this year also works in the school and took the varsity golf job so he would prolly be the top canidate at this point if he would want it. they will prolly look for someone that is in the school that would want to take the job unlike denardo who didnt work for the school district. should be interesting
Anything new on this?BlueGoose5 wrote:The St. Cloud Tech coach is in hot water with the school administration.
Blue&Gold wrote:Anything new on this?BlueGoose5 wrote:The St. Cloud Tech coach is in hot water with the school administration.
I don't get the arrogant part. From what I've heard, the Tech effort is to get a feeder program in line with their high school program. Not exactly a novel idea, with most of the programs in the State being community-based. It appears that the coach wants to be active in building his program from the grassroots. Again, what a surprising concept. It appears the only school that would have difficulty with this idea is Cathedral, and they are free to enroll students from wherever anyway. Too bad the Administration felt the need to get involved. St. Cloud Tech needs to do something to rejuvenate that program.BlueGoose5 wrote:Nothing known at this point. The word is that the coach was told by Tech administration to separate himself from the effort by a small group of Tech parents to bring down SCYHA and form their own youth hockey association. He was also told by the Tech administration to remove the name St. Cloud Tech from the proposed new association, but that hasn't been done yet--refer to sctyha.com for evidence. The Tech effort, though, is going absolutely nowhere. Pretty arrogant group if you ask me.
Not sure what qualifications you would expect, but with the program's consistent struggles I would guess others also are qualified. I would think a good, young coach willing to get really involved in the community might be the best alternative. That said, even such a coach is going to need 3-5 years to make his mark on the program.Tigers33 wrote:Torrel kid? Someone left early from Monticello. Wow. No dedication to the program, huh? Kida that leave early have no idea what they are doing to themselves unless they have taken care of business at the high school level.
Assistants from 8AA...Roseau Assistant and Moorhead Assistant...Not sure any other teams have qualifications for the job.
We actually thought we had a good program out here. Sad enough we had a chance of going to state this year and couldn't capitalize on our opportunities.
Two things: 1) It's clear that the Cathedral kids would suffer as the kids who live on the south side would have to play under Tech's banner, and they are going to put anyone from Cathedral under the bus.Puckguy19 wrote:I don't get the arrogant part. From what I've heard, the Tech effort is to get a feeder program in line with their high school program. Not exactly a novel idea, with most of the programs in the State being community-based. It appears that the coach wants to be active in building his program from the grassroots. Again, what a surprising concept. It appears the only school that would have difficulty with this idea is Cathedral, and they are free to enroll students from wherever anyway. Too bad the Administration felt the need to get involved. St. Cloud Tech needs to do something to rejuvenate that program.BlueGoose5 wrote:Nothing known at this point. The word is that the coach was told by Tech administration to separate himself from the effort by a small group of Tech parents to bring down SCYHA and form their own youth hockey association. He was also told by the Tech administration to remove the name St. Cloud Tech from the proposed new association, but that hasn't been done yet--refer to sctyha.com for evidence. The Tech effort, though, is going absolutely nowhere. Pretty arrogant group if you ask me.
That is exactly what I was thinking, B&G.Blue&Gold wrote:Tech has controlled the program for several years, until the association ran Donovan out of the presidency and she lost thepower that was wielded with Hommerding. That is the reason this split is being proposed. It's a sad day for St. Cloud youth hockey regardless of the outcome, as wounds will be opened that will take a long time to heal.
Nope... I've lived with the program for YEARS, and this split will pretty much destroy hockey for this town. Tech might stay OK, but the girls will fall away, and the costs will climb to the point where few will be able to afford to play. You can mark my words, if this split happens hockey in St. Cloud will suffer across the board. Hommerding is so short sighted that he doesn't care about the rest of the players. SAD.mnb327 wrote:Yourr kidding me the split will strenght St.Cloud Hockey and all 3 programs.
No one cares how good or how many State Tournaments a Bantam team gets to, you should be worried about more kids playing the sport, short term gain is not the answer, every program that has youth teams that represent HS's make hockey stronger and more kids opportunities.
St.Cloud has struggled at the HS level in AA for years and years because of the being short sided. Wake up two youth programs more kids, more athletes how can anyone lose.
Good for Hommerding for stepping up instead of stepping away.
taffe and squanderedROOK EYE wrote:Hastings had 1 little run when Welch's kid played with Taff-Utect etc. late 90's maybe. Since then he hasn't done much at all. Or before that. Someone told me he's been there since the early 90's. I'm sorry, but 2-3 State appearences in 20 year's? I'm not impressed. Weak section for alot of that time.. And i know in those 20 years he's had some very good youth talent he's sqandered. He quit having anything to do with the youth when his kid was done. Something that plagues other communities as well. Coaches getting involved just to make sure their kid plays. I've heard the hockey program is in a world of hurt down there. Has anyone else heard that?
And just where are "more kids" coming from? Take a look at the SCYHA site and read the reports. The numbers are down, and expected to continue in that trend. The costs are going up, and it's proven that the support dollars are not going to be doubled to support two associations.mnb327 wrote:must be St.Cloud Cath. parent or coach thus Blue and Gold.
No Chad isn't he is concerned as all should be about all kids not just Cath, Apollo or Tech.
Again don't be short sighted more kids, more parents, more money.
It is sad you can't see long term gain, again that is what happens when to close to situation.
Look at Osseo, Maple Grove more players and two good programs. Anoka, Champlin, and Andover. Coon Rapids, Blaine all have own youth programs same district.
Moundsveiw and Irondale.
Wake up we need more kids playing this game. Expand the game.
What happened at the D10 meeting on 4-14 with Timm Timm?BlueGoose5 wrote:Right on, B & G.
Also, a formal independent survey of SCYHA households was recently completed about the proposed split being brought forward by the small Tech parent group, and an astounding 56% of households responded with 93% voting against a split. See www.stcloudhockey.com for survey results.
Surprising? Not at all. Afterall, SCYHA is about the kids, not Tech H.S. Hockey.
A high school coach has 3-4 years to work with players. If there's enough raw player talent, a good coach should be able to mold a successful team in that period of time.