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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:50 am
by nortstar52
chief22 wrote:nortstar52 wrote:east hockey wrote:
In other words, no bad losses. I'd say the #2 seed is warranted.
Lee
(DE 6 Andover 1) no bad losses, now that's a section semi or final I want to see

I mean DE wants to see

Well...DE will be favored by a touchdown over whoever they play in sections. But you never know in a 1 game deal.
only against Andover and ER because they tremble at the name DE

and the only hope they have of playing them is if they don't play Cloquet or FL in the quarter finals
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:57 am
by slyer
i bet andover and er are really scared, your right
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:13 am
by northwoods oldtimer
Saint Micheal Albertville deserves to be mentioned 2 and 1 in section play and 13 -8 overall record.
Still some impact games to be played which should make the meeting quite interesting. No matter who ends up where it will be a very heated section battles which is what everybody should want to see.
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:30 pm
by BlackTape
Elks beat Maple Grove 5-3, there is your quality win.
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:27 pm
by BodyShots
BlackTape wrote:Elks beat Maple Grove 5-3, there is your quality win.
I would say that tops GR beating Moorhead.
1) DE
2) And
3) ER
4) GR
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:41 pm
by north_bear
Andover falls to Blaine tonight.
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:16 am
by CB00
TheHockeyDJ wrote:With so many good teams in 7AA I wish we could have Quarterfinal Saturday at Amsoil Arena.
10:00 East vs. St. Francis
12:30 Rapids vs. Cambridge
4:00 Andover vs. Forest Lake
6:30 Cloquet vs. Elk River
Might want to revise the schedule.

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:57 am
by slyer
looks like all the gr fans disappeared, anyone out there, where are you like mice running to the hole
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:16 am
by TheHockeyDJ
Nice win for Elk River. The loss to Anoka is still a head scratcher though. I have never doubted their talent. This puts them into consideration, but I still feel Rapids shouldn't be even considered for the 4 seed. The Maple Grove win certainly is way better than anything Andover has. It's simply gonna come down to how each coach wants to see things come out. I have an opinion on how they should go and what will happen. Statistically Rapids has fewer losses with a tougher schedule than Elk River and Andover. Only 3 days away, so let's just wait now.
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:20 am
by slyer
gr has tougher schedule than er, are you drunk now,they play 11 class a teams
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:23 am
by TheHockeyDJ
You are seriously THAT stupid?
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:27 am
by slyer
i guess i'am
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:32 am
by slyer
hopefully it's not going to come down to how each COACH wants to see things come out, give the seed to the best team, keep the politics OUT gr only chance
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:22 am
by TheHockeyDJ
What I think will happen:
1. East
2. Elk River (will tie Rapids in votes and get 2 cuz of the tiebreaker OT win)
3. Grand Rapids
4. Andover
5. Cloquet
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:07 pm
by grindiangrad-80
slyer wrote:looks like all the gr fans disappeared, anyone out there, where are you like mice running to the hole
I'm right here.
What can I do for you?
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:12 pm
by TheHockeyDJ
They might just go by records too:
Grand Rapids 19-6-0
Andover 16-6-2
Elk River 14-8-2
This carries a lot of weight, 19-6 is a pretty glitzy record, considering also that the Iron Range Conference single A teams are way better than North Metro, Robbinsdale Armstrong, Champlin Park, and Osseo. But I guess Hibbing sucks, that's why defending national champion UMD went there to recruit Adam Johnson.

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:35 pm
by butterball5
I am also going to have to say that the seedings should go as follows:
1. Duluth East
2. Andover
3. Elk River
4. Grand Rapids
Obviously no argument about East at #1, after that it is all spectulation. The reason I chose to have Andover at #2 was that even though Elk River just beat Maple Grove which does help their case a lot I just cant get around the fact that Andover has already proven that they can beat ER... Twice. Having Elk River at 3 just seems right especially after their win vs Maple Grove. This gives them more to say than they beat GR back in December even if that possibly couldve been enough for the 3 seed. Then you have GR at 4 where it just seems you cant put them above any of the teams ahead of them based on them losing to ER and East and not playing Andover. That said you never know what team is going to come to play for the Thunderhawks which I why I would least like to play them if I was one of the teams in 7AA.
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:46 pm
by chief22
TheHockeyDJ wrote:What I think will happen:
1. East
2. Elk River (will tie Rapids in votes and get 2 cuz of the tiebreaker OT win)
3. Grand Rapids
4. Andover
5. Cloquet
I don't mean to ruin your all North final pipe dream, but head to head counts a lot. Andover beat ER twice and will finish ahead of us in the conference...There is no way we will be seeded higher than them. So then going by your logic GR will have to be 4. It might not be totally fair, and I would agree GR is better than a 4 seed but it is what it is. I think GR has a better chance at the 2 seed, than Andover being the 4.
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:51 pm
by chief22
TheHockeyDJ wrote:with a tougher schedule than Elk River and Andover.
No
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:09 pm
by TheHockeyDJ
chief22 wrote:TheHockeyDJ wrote:with a tougher schedule than Elk River and Andover.
No
YES. I am right on that with no logical argument against it. Osseo, North Metro, Coon Rapids, Robbinsdale Armstrong, TWICE. That is a pathetic schedule. PATHETIC!!!! You lost the argument. GAME OVER!!!
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:32 pm
by chief22
TheHockeyDJ wrote:chief22 wrote:TheHockeyDJ wrote:with a tougher schedule than Elk River and Andover.
No
YES. I am right on that with no logical argument against it. Osseo, North Metro, Coon Rapids, Robbinsdale Armstrong, TWICE. That is a pathetic schedule. PATHETIC!!!! You lost the argument. GAME OVER!!!
NM and CR once...are you going to be ok?
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:34 pm
by greenway1969
Elk River has also played the following teams twice: Maple Grove, Blaine, Eden Prairie, Centennial and Andover. All of which are better than any IRC team Rapids has played. Add Edina and Jefferson and you have a schedule that is much more difficult than Rapids' schedule. I'd like to see Rapids a 2 or 3 seed, but Elk River and Andover have earned a high seed than Rapids.
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:39 pm
by northwoods oldtimer
1. Duluth East
2. Elk River
3. Grand Rapids
4. Andover
Looking at Andover and Rapids it is virtually a coin flip but one stat stands out. Andover
6 - 1 loss to Duluth East will be just enough to put Rapids in the 3 seed.
Elks win over Maple Grove was uncontested game for Maple Grove. They had nothing to play for in that game. Still looks good on Elks resume and might propel them to number 2.
Only one team in the state can claim "quality" losses when players are out of the line up or sick in Karl's ranking system. The rest of us take our collective lumps.

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:44 pm
by TheHockeyDJ
greenway1969 wrote:Elk River has also played the following teams twice: Maple Grove, Blaine, Eden Prairie, Centennial and Andover. All of which are better than any IRC team Rapids has played. Add Edina and Jefferson and you have a schedule that is much more difficult than Rapids' schedule. I'd like to see Rapids a 2 or 3 seed, but Elk River and Andover have earned a high seed than Rapids.
Andover certainly HAS NOT.
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:46 pm
by rainier
ER's worst loss (Anoka) is worse than GR's, (Hibbing), but ER's best win (MG) is better than GR's best win (Moorhead), that combined with the ER win in the head-to-head matchup probably gives them the higher seed. These 7AA teams really need to start scheduling each other more, this is ridiculous.