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Mowanchuk4 wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:

GoldyGopher wrote:
Starting to sound like you're from Princeton and don't like the competition. But you're totally right. Let's get these elite players from MAML playing back in 8AA. Maybe we can get another 27-0 section score like we had when they were playing in that class and section. (2005?)

Driven through Maple Lake lately? They aren't having hockey on their own. Annandale is nearly as unlikely. Dassel-Cokato is already co-op with Litchfield who plays in 3A. Where do you recommend Annandale and Maple Lake go? Monticello clearly does not have hockey enrollment numbers to compete with anyone in 8AA. LSH/SP/TCU has enrollment numbers of around 1,300. Perhaps we should get a thread going protesting them, they are in 1A.

MAML 3
Buffalo 2

From Tuesday...

St. Michael 10
MAML 2

See, I can post scores too.

MrBoDangles wrote:Goldy said they can't compete with 8AA schools.... And answered with last nights score. Not too hard to follow boys..

elliott70 wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:Goldy said they can't compete with 8AA schools.... And answered with last nights score. Not too hard to follow boys..

And Bagley cannot compete with EGF,
St Franny cannot compete with Elk River....

the list goes on and on...

Monticello as this year to compete with small schools and then should move up...

Win or lose, you play where you belong. Relish the good years and cheer loud in the poor years.

We all cannot be a Duluth East or Edina....

BodyShots wrote:

elliott70 wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:Goldy said they can't compete with 8AA schools.... And answered with last nights score. Not too hard to follow boys..

And Bagley cannot compete with EGF,
St Franny cannot compete with Elk River....

the list goes on and on...

Monticello as this year to compete with small schools and then should move up...

Win or lose, you play where you belong. Relish the good years and cheer loud in the poor years.

We all cannot be a Duluth East or Edina....

elliott70 wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:Goldy said they can't compete with 8AA schools.... And answered with last nights score. Not too hard to follow boys..

And Bagley cannot compete with EGF,
St Franny cannot compete with Elk River....

the list goes on and on...

Monticello as this year to compete with small schools and then should move up...

Win or lose, you play where you belong. Relish the good years and cheer loud in the poor years.

We all cannot be a Duluth East or Edina....

MrBoDangles wrote:

elliott70 wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:Goldy said they can't compete with 8AA schools.... And answered with last nights score. Not too hard to follow boys..

And Bagley cannot compete with EGF,
St Franny cannot compete with Elk River....

the list goes on and on...

Monticello as this year to compete with small schools and then should move up...

Win or lose, you play where you belong. Relish the good years and cheer loud in the poor years.

We all cannot be a Duluth East or Edina....

And you're the one that posted "who even cares" for a few sections... Explains much with you being with Minnesota Hockey.. You're kinda dense.

MrBoDangles wrote:

Where is F3? wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote: I'll answer for him.. Not saying they will, but because they would have been competitive in 8AA next year. Very surprised the decision makers didn't look at all the factors since MAML will be trending stronger than quite a few 8AA teams..

So.... Because an AA sized program is going to be competing against some very small A sized programs in 5A. Simple as that.

They haven't been competitive in 8AA in their entire existence. They haven't been past the section quarters ever. Just because they have a solid group coming up, doesn't translate into varsity success. That also doesn't mean they will dominate the smaller A schools.

All in the timing

And now they're moving to class A when they know they'll be most competitive..

- Your number 4 ranked bantam team beat nearly every A bantam team they played that play A in HS.

- Your bantam team beat nearly all AA teams they faced.

- They also beat 8AA rival Buffalo's AA Bantam team 5-1 and 3-2 and they'll stay in AA where they should be..

- Your bantam team dominated 6A teams that are more in your area with a 10 2-1 record. Only Sartell gave them ANY competition.. Ended up 2-2-1 against them.. You think 5A is stronger?

- You keep trying to deflect to River Lakes, but your bantams also beat them 3-1 and then 7-0.... So...

- Your sympathy case of MAML high school's hockey program was able to beat Rogers and St. Michael Albertville last season and played many other good AA teams to tight games... Teams that are WAY beyond most 5A type competition. They also bring back lots of talent from last year's team and the talented sophomores from their bantam team that others kept talking about..

- They would have been upper half in 8AA next year and would have only climbed from there.

- The MAML program knew what was coming and pulled a fast one on the High School League..

MrBoDangles wrote:So much more excitement for hockey now in 5A and programs are getting much STRONGER (youth numbers too) because of it. Hermantown (when in 5A) was a curse for hockey in the area because any talent would leave because of the roadblock they imposed. Monti dropping with the huge numbers, their timing with Hermantown leaving, better program candidates in the 5a area and then the European (4 per follow the puck rumor) recruiting... Irks many.

HShockeywatcher wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:So much more excitement for hockey now in 5A and programs are getting much STRONGER (youth numbers too) because of it. Hermantown (when in 5A) was a curse for hockey in the area because any talent would leave because of the roadblock they imposed. Monti dropping with the huge numbers, their timing with Hermantown leaving, better program candidates in the 5a area and then the European (4 per follow the puck rumor) recruiting... Irks many.

Are you at all interested in having a conversation or just want to keep repeating the same thing over and over? I'm genuinely curious about numbers, in programs, at tryouts, in associations, etc, if you have them. Can you expand on that? You've given numbers for one program and nothing to compare to...

MrBoDangles wrote:

HShockeywatcher wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:So much more excitement for hockey now in 5A and programs are getting much STRONGER (youth numbers too) because of it. Hermantown (when in 5A) was a curse for hockey in the area because any talent would leave because of the roadblock they imposed. Monti dropping with the huge numbers, their timing with Hermantown leaving, better program candidates in the 5a area and then the European (4 per follow the puck rumor) recruiting... Irks many.

Are you at all interested in having a conversation or just want to keep repeating the same thing over and over? I'm genuinely curious about numbers, in programs, at tryouts, in associations, etc, if you have them. Can you expand on that? You've given numbers for one program and nothing to compare to...

I've given you student numbers, association numbers, stats, scoring facts and actual game scores... And you blew all these facts off.. Now you ask me for numbers as if they MATTER to YOU? You're an odd duck and a waste of time..

Twilight Zone brain you have... Done with it..

MrBoDangles wrote:

HShockeywatcher wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:So much more excitement for hockey now in 5A and programs are getting much STRONGER (youth numbers too) because of it. Hermantown (when in 5A) was a curse for hockey in the area because any talent would leave because of the roadblock they imposed. Monti dropping with the huge numbers, their timing with Hermantown leaving, better program candidates in the 5a area and then the European (4 per follow the puck rumor) recruiting... Irks many.

Are you at all interested in having a conversation or just want to keep repeating the same thing over and over? I'm genuinely curious about numbers, in programs, at tryouts, in associations, etc, if you have them. Can you expand on that? You've given numbers for one program and nothing to compare to...

I've given you student numbers, association numbers, stats, scoring facts and actual game scores... And you blew all these facts off.. Now you ask me for numbers as if they MATTER to YOU? You're an odd duck and a waste of time..

Twilight Zone brain you have... Done with it..

MrBoDangles wrote:Unreal.. The monticello numbers were already brought up..

You can argue with a wiseman, but you cannot reason with fools... Thanks much for being the tools!!

GoldyGopher wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:Unreal.. The monticello numbers were already brought up..

You can argue with a wiseman, but you cannot reason with fools... Thanks much for being the tools!!

So either you're a recent Princeton grad or a really immature adult. You've constantly called everyone trying to reason with you names and now you're using the world tool. Grown adults don't usually call each other names on Internet forums, and they really don't use the word tool.

I wish I could say good arguing with you, but it was more so you whining because you want to cake walk through the section. Perhaps we re-visit when you, being the genius you are comes up with a plan to Co-op the hundreds of players Annandale and Maple lake are apparently kicking in to the MAML program.

HShockeywatcher wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:A real down on their luck case.. Fancy high school, obviously great tax base, solid AA type enrollment and they simply did a poor job of building a strong program!! Then award them with moving down where they're an instant favorite and have no similarities to their competition..

Their enrollment alone puts them in Class A though; that's the point.

I'm not downplaying anything. I'm merely asking questions, which you still haven't answered. I have no idea how many players are in the entire associations of any programs in the state, let alone the one in question...

MNHockeyFan wrote:

Jeffy95 wrote:There have been three teams complained about in the last six years. STA, because they are a Metro Private. Hermantown, because they are in a Metro area and get a HUGE amount of the top players from the surrounding Associations and School Districts. And Breck, again because they are a Metro Private.

But all three were Class A by virtue of their enrollment. And nobody would have complained if they weren't good.

ding ding ding, we have a winner. No one cared when STA won 10 games in 3 seasons, but when they did things that public school programs are completely capable of doing, they are suddenly "too good for Class A." I think AA is the right place for STA and wish they would've moved up sooner, but the hypocrisy from so many is astonishing. When I've talked to people from other states people are amazed whenn I've mentioned teams changing classes; I've mentioned many examples of teams nationwide who are the best team in their state, and sometimes the nation, who aren't even in their state's top class. I've also brought up numerous ways of re-figuring classification that achieves private haters goals and more. Oh well...

MrBoDangles wrote:

GoldyGopher wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:Unreal.. The monticello numbers were already brought up..

You can argue with a wiseman, but you cannot reason with fools... Thanks much for being the tools!!

So either you're a recent Princeton grad or a really immature adult. You've constantly called everyone trying to reason with you names and now you're using the world tool. Grown adults don't usually call each other names on Internet forums, and they really don't use the word tool.

I wish I could say good arguing with you, but it was more so you whining because you want to cake walk through the section. Perhaps we re-visit when you, being the genius you are comes up with a plan to Co-op the hundreds of players Annandale and Maple lake are apparently kicking in to the MAML program.

Their best player is from Annandale.. A recruited European is on 2nd line.. Who else out of the top 17? Seems they don't want to answer.

You started the name calling with the whiner comments... Duh

Keep being the tool driving the spikes for the tracks!!

MrBoDangles wrote:Their best player is from Annandale.. A recruited European (by MAML) is on 2nd line.. Who else out of the top 17? Seems they don't want to answer.

HShockeywatcher wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:Their best player is from Annandale.. A recruited European (by MAML) is on 2nd line.. Who else out of the top 17? Seems they don't want to answer.

None of us know, that's why we're asking someone who claims to know... If there is some database that has co-ops' numbers from each team, that would be great to know. Do you know of it?

I have reread every one of your posts in this thread and while I cited the numbers of players in the MAML association from Annandale and Maple Lake, because I read it in an article, there has been no mention of the Monticello numbers. I've also been curious of the numbers of other programs around the state and in the section and have instead been called names.

I would love to have a data driven discussion, but to do that we need data...

karl(east) wrote:Some details on this one at the bottom of today's Strib article on realignment for you, Bo:

http://www.startribune.com/sports/29622 ... page=2&c=y

GoldyGopher wrote:

HShockeywatcher wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:Their best player is from Annandale.. A recruited European (by MAML) is on 2nd line.. Who else out of the top 17? Seems they don't want to answer.

None of us know, that's why we're asking someone who claims to know... If there is some database that has co-ops' numbers from each team, that would be great to know. Do you know of it?

I have reread every one of your posts in this thread and while I cited the numbers of players in the MAML association from Annandale and Maple Lake, because I read it in an article, there has been no mention of the Monticello numbers. I've also been curious of the numbers of other programs around the state and in the section and have instead been called names.

I would love to have a data driven discussion, but to do that we need data...

He's a recent high school grad fishing for an argument while waiting for the next game of call of duty to load in his mothers basement. Clearly he's upset the next Garborik chose to play for the MAML powerhouse rather than Princeton.

Jeffy95 wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:

GoldyGopher wrote: So either you're a recent Princeton grad or a really immature adult. You've constantly called everyone trying to reason with you names and now you're using the world tool. Grown adults don't usually call each other names on Internet forums, and they really don't use the word tool.

I wish I could say good arguing with you, but it was more so you whining because you want to cake walk through the section. Perhaps we re-visit when you, being the genius you are comes up with a plan to Co-op the hundreds of players Annandale and Maple lake are apparently kicking in to the MAML program.

Their best player is from Annandale.. A recruited European is on 2nd line.. Who else out of the top 17? Seems they don't want to answer.

You started the name calling with the whiner comments... Duh

Keep being the tool driving the spikes for the tracks!!

A recruited European? It's extremely rare for a top player to become a foreign exchange student. If they're that good, they're playing in a top league in Europe, not heading to Monticello, MN. LOL

HShockeywatcher wrote:

I would love to have a data driven discussion, but to do that we need data...

nu2hockey wrote:

HShockeywatcher wrote:

I would love to have a data driven discussion, but to do that we need data...

If you are looking for the CO-OP enrollment numbers for each team the MSHSL website has the enrollment numbers for each school....If you are looking for participating numbers from each school in the CO-OP, I don't know if those would be available from the state( privacy laws being what they are)