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[quote]your not a parent; i agree that you do have a claim, but it is summer hockey. Summer hockey just keeps you in shape for winter hockey.[/quote]


So does Baseball, Soccer, Lacrosse, RollerBlading, and so on. And they don't take your checkbook to the cleaners.

AAA is for the people running it. If there weren't big bucks involved, they'd be doing something else.

I wish the '97 Blizzard would have picked up a few ringers this past weekend at the Int. Cup,They were Brutal,Blades crushed them

What was the 97 Blizzard vs Blades results?

Superrinks web site posted the scores. 97's Blades - 1 Blizzard -1
Doesn't look like they got crushed by that score.

Watchdog, you should be done with your investigation, where is your findings?

WI coach,
The Blades had 1st place rapped up before that game,And just dumped and cycled the puck the whole game untill the final 2minutes it did backfier a bit the blzzard got one of there 3 or 4 shots to go in late while on a 5on3,the blades did not take a shot on net on purpose untill there was about 1:30 remaining,the Blizzard tied WI AAA 3-3,the blades beat them I think it was about 18-1,they didn't put up every goal they were comeing to fast,trust me they are not even close to being in the same league,I am sorry if you are at all personally involved with this group,I am sure they have some fine atheletes,and hopefully they were inspired by the clinic the blades put on,and motivated to go to work.If yoy have any way of finding out the exact shots,it will probabley say there were more,our team was told to involve the goalies in our clinic and made a few passes back to him,when we dumped the puck our goalies also changed,the blizzard attempted a few full ice shots but couldn't get it off in time.

Thanks for the info. I heard today from a Blizzard 97 parent that it was indeed a clinic on puck control. This parent said that the Blades would have clobbered them if they wanted too. I should have guessed something was up, I was very surprised to see a 1 - 1 score vs Blades.

I have no connection to the Blizzard other then they are a Wisconsin team and I coach in Wisconsin.

WI coach,
What happen to the Madison Capitols?They used to have good teams at all levels,from reading some of these threads it sounds like they are the Blizzard,maybe thats what they go by during this summer AAA,I'm glad the '97 blizzard saw it for what it was,and hopefully will go to work on there game, for the ones that care.
The Blades also pounded a team from Thunder Bay,And there parents thought we paid the refs off,You would think they would Know good hockey if they saw it,They just don't like to get beat by us americans,I guess!

Madison Capitols still have good teams but they go to Detriot and Chicago with their summer teams. Blizzard is primarily Northern Wisconsin and Upper Michigan players, no Capitol players, Gary Suter is the coach of the 94's, (youngest son is a 94) and his oldest plays for the Capitols MM team.
Wisconsin Flyers (mostly Central Wisconisn players) had a couple Capitols play at the International Cup.
I would like to see the Capitols play the Blades, that might be some competition.

I used to play AAA hockey. Now I am too old to play. Back when I played it was for kids who wanted a higher level of play to challenge themselves. AAA today is basically a joke. There are about 2 teams at each level who could be considered a AAA team back when I played. My advice is to show up to practice wanting to get better, then if you go to a game and get killed by a team who cheats who cares, all they got was a win and you got the development.

gabT wrote:I used to play AAA hockey. Now I am too old to play. Back when I played it was for kids who wanted a higher level of play to challenge themselves. AAA today is basically a joke. There are about 2 teams at each level who could be considered a AAA team back when I played. My advice is to show up to practice wanting to get better, then if you go to a game and get killed by a team who cheats who cares, all they got was a win and you got the development.

W-I-S-D-O-M. Fairly easy word to spell. How easy is it to heed?

GabT,
You are entitled to feel as you do about AAA being watered down because it is. I never profess that my 94 team is anything more than an open level AAA team but we are AAA based on what I consider is a reasonable definition of it today. About 1/2 the teams we've played so far this year are what I view as AAA and the others although close are wanabee's. We look to play only teams we can beat or loose too by no more than 3 or 4 goals because there is no development being beaten by, or beating someone 15 -1. We have high end practices and are kids are getting better at an excelerated rate compared to others their age. We have parents coming back year by year and others now calling us looking for spots for their players so we might not be AAA by your original standards, but we can play and we're getting results. Remember, it's not where you are but where your going that counts and the recent group of late 20's NHL rookies is proof that it's a journey not a destination. You should think about playing again, it sounds like you were one of the top guys of your day based on what AAA was back then...

Wisconsin Coach wrote:Madison Capitols still have good teams but they go to Detriot and Chicago with their summer teams. Blizzard is primarily Northern Wisconsin and Upper Michigan players, no Capitol players, Gary Suter is the coach of the 94's, (youngest son is a 94) and his oldest plays for the Capitols MM team.

Suter's not the coach of the 94 Capitols, at least not their winter team. Joe Butcher is the coach and has a 95 on the team. The kid's got talent. The team is very solid with a good head coach. Not too fond of some of the mullets that help. That team was ranked 19th in the country at AAA during the winter season. Check it out at http://midwestyouthhockey.com/view_2006 ... y&m=n&r=US

Will Butcher is an unbelievably good player. The best 95 I've seen by far.

myhockeyman, Gary Suter is the coach for the 94 Blizzard (Summer AAA).

Hey Watchdog, time to disclose the results of your investigation.

Something tells me that we may never hear from Watchdog. I think he expected to find more support on this topic than he received. I guess he was wrong about that as well.

Come on Guys, give Watchdog a break.

After all, isn't O.J. still looking for the REAL killer?

Hey Reg, in Watchdogs own type "fact is this is an opinion board. people say what they want and everyone else lives with it. so man up to that."
Watchdog needs to "Man Up" and retract his calling out of the 94 Blizzards.
I am sure Watchdog would ask for proof if anyone slandered Roseau or Islander players.

"if im wrong i will personally come on here and apoligize."

OK Watchdog, you started this mess and you're not going to get the break OJ got. So you need to "Man Up" and apologize.

If not, you may want to change your moniker and style before you ever come on here again.

im not saying im sorry for anything. i havent had time to try and dig up the proof. lets go over a senario i bring my kids birth certificate to the pepsi cup and his name is on the roster how can you prove it wrong unless you know the kid personally. i have had two private messages sent to me saying i am right on this. the people just dont want to say it on an open forum thats more than enough proof for me on top of the fact i trust my own judgement. As for changing my handle before coming on here again you must think i care about what you think about me? sorry but not hardley... as for anything to do with roseau or the islanders ill answer any question you want honestly. if your involved in wisconsin why dont you try and find out the low down on the scam? i dont blame wisconsin heck everyone knows their not as good as minnesota teams. if yeah need a leg up and if that means a doctored roster than go for it. just let me know before hand so i can come prepared. It never was that big of a deal our team isnt that good and i didnt expect to go their and win the tourney. My whole point was and still is why??? if the tourney is for 94 players than thats what you have on your team its really a simple concept that many on this board apperantly just cant quit grasp. well i can only explain it in so many was and miss spell so many words so beyond this youll have to go somewhere else for help. last thing i dont care who supports anything i say on this board thats the beauty of it I JUST DONT CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

watchdog wrote:im not saying im sorry for anything. i havent had time to try and dig up the proof. lets go over a senario i bring my kids birth certificate to the pepsi cup and his name is on the roster how can you prove it wrong unless you know the kid personally. i have had two private messages sent to me saying i am right on this. the people just dont want to say it on an open forum thats more than enough proof for me on top of the fact i trust my own judgement. As for changing my handle before coming on here again you must think i care about what you think about me? sorry but not hardley... as for anything to do with roseau or the islanders ill answer any question you want honestly. if your involved in wisconsin why dont you try and find out the low down on the scam? i dont blame wisconsin heck everyone knows their not as good as minnesota teams. if yeah need a leg up and if that means a doctored roster than go for it. just let me know before hand so i can come prepared. It never was that big of a deal our team isnt that good and i didnt expect to go their and win the tourney. My whole point was and still is why??? if the tourney is for 94 players than thats what you have on your team its really a simple concept that many on this board apperantly just cant quit grasp. well i can only explain it in so many was and miss spell so many words so beyond this youll have to go somewhere else for help. last thing i dont care who supports anything i say on this board thats the beauty of it I JUST DONT CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You need to just stop, your insane, I feel sorry for your son.

Madison Capitols spring teams played weekends of showcase games against Chicago and Detroit teams, played a birth year up at the Blizzard tournaments (watchdog-they played OLDER kids the whole weekend) and finished with a tournament in Toronto. Watchdog, if you're whinning about playing against a few older kids, I fault both you and the Blizzard coach. Both of you are in it for the wins, not for developement and teaching.

It seems to me that the point of the original post has been lost. I think the question is why, would teams do this? Maybe it would be differant if the classification was U11, U12, etc.. I understand that players will play with both kids older, and younger than them in during the winter season. And, I agree that it is benificial for players to play against better competition, even if that competition is of an older birth year. I am also not accusing any single team of doing anything in particualar, but if this type of thing does happen, and the posts seem to support that it does, why? Why would teams register as a 94 team, and then place even one 93' birth year player on that team?? Everyone seems to jump on watchdog for "wanting to win the trophy", but that is the only point I can see to putting even one "older" kid on a 94 roster.

Well Watchdog, I have tried to help you with your investigation and you refuse. My point is why do you continue to accuse a team of cheating!!!!!!!
Can you not grasp the fact that the 94 Blizzards are all 94's and are that good. 94 Blizzards did not cheat, go to the WAHA site and you'll find the names of the players you believe are 93's listed as 94's. Yes even the big player that skates too good for a 94 (according to watchdog)

http://www.wahacup.com/list_teams.php?run=6

And if you still don't believe contact Don Kohlman dkohlman@wahahockey.com he will verify players for you. You can get all the proof you need by contacting MAHA or WAHA officers.

Now stop this nonsense and give the 94 Blizzards the credit they deserve.
They are the best 94 team in the Midwest with Championships at Meltdown, International Cup, Fargo Pepsi Cup, and several others.

The Real problem is how can we get people to stop slandering without proof?

Your judgment on these kids is WRONG!!! and you slander them because you hide behind a handle and as you said you "JUST DON'T CARE"

you know who i am so how is that hiding i dont know you though. you expect me to find all the answers but you cant look at the pepsi cup roster and see the coaches name under the 94 islanders? if you cant than you have no right to come on here and run your mouth about crap you know nothing about. where you there? try asking anyone thats not from wisconsin and youll start hearing another tune.im on this board calling it the way i see it to bad if you dont like it. why do you care so much? if someone came on here and accused my team of this id say your wrong their all 94s. if it was a question on one player id tell yeah where he was from you could check his local register. you cant hide at home. if you care so much you get me the roster and the phone numbers to everyplayer where their from and ill call them all and their winter coaches cover every angle you could use to cheat than i would agree with what your saying. honestly i think your just on here sticking up for something you dont really even have the answers for. so that needs and answer why are you on here defending something your not a part of? are you the coach of that team? if so you can easily provide me the information i mentioned in a private message or ill give you my phone number whatever and if im wrong ill gladly admit it. As i said in my last post ive already recieved a couple private messages from people with knowledge of this team and they tell me a diffrent story than yours and i agreed to keep them out. i also agreed to drop this but im not gona let you come on here calling me out especially when i think your clueless. so to put it nicely unless youve seen atleast one game pipe down.