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Posted: **Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:47 pm**

It is true that the AA field is not as strong as in recent years, but it is good to see AV in there again - if nothing more than to provide another common opponent for the 1AA schools since AV plays both Lakevilles twice per year.

Fargo South and Buffalo are both good teams - maybe great - but certainly not elite teams. However, they are much better than the bottom half of the Big Nine, as is Hastings; with that being said, if Mayo or Century can win the championship, I think it makes a statement.

Of course, I hope it is the Spartans.

Sioux Fan is right - Alexander and Thauwald are legit and give Mayo two good lines.....I was impressed w/ the hard work of their 3rd line against Grafton w/ the two seniors Schultz and Powers playing well.

Yaggy is legit from what I see giving the Spartans someone they can rely on between the pipes like Century (and the two Lakevilles).

I like Lourdes to do well in a tougher Class A tourney.....and it is great that all the games are at Graham this year!

Posted: **Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:10 am**

Buffalo takes home the championship

Posted: **Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:15 am**

SEMinnHockeyNut wrote:It is true that the AA field is not as strong as in recent years, but it is good to see AV in there again - if nothing more than to provide another common opponent for the 1AA schools since AV plays both Lakevilles twice per year.

Fargo South and Buffalo are both good teams - maybe great - but certainly not elite teams. However, they are much better than the bottom half of the Big Nine, as is Hastings; with that being said, if Mayo or Century can win the championship, I think it makes a statement.

Of course, I hope it is the Spartans.

Sioux Fan is right - Alexander and Thauwald are legit and give Mayo two good lines.....I was impressed w/ the hard work of their 3rd line against Grafton w/ the two seniors Schultz and Powers playing well.

Yaggy is legit from what I see giving the Spartans someone they can rely on between the pipes like Century (and the two Lakevilles).

I like Lourdes to do well in a tougher Class A tourney.....and it is great that all the games are at Graham this year!

I'd love to see the Rochester teams win this. I know some kids from each of the teams and like to see them have some success.

Posted: **Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:51 pm**

davey wrote:
SEMinnHockeyNut wrote:It is true that the AA field is not as strong as in recent years, but it is good to see AV in there again - if nothing more than to provide another common opponent for the 1AA schools since AV plays both Lakevilles twice per year.

Fargo South and Buffalo are both good teams - maybe great - but certainly not elite teams. However, they are much better than the bottom half of the Big Nine, as is Hastings; with that being said, if Mayo or Century can win the championship, I think it makes a statement.

Of course, I hope it is the Spartans.

Sioux Fan is right - Alexander and Thauwald are legit and give Mayo two good lines.....I was impressed w/ the hard work of their 3rd line against Grafton w/ the two seniors Schultz and Powers playing well.

Yaggy is legit from what I see giving the Spartans someone they can rely on between the pipes like Century (and the two Lakevilles).

I like Lourdes to do well in a tougher Class A tourney.....and it is great that all the games are at Graham this year!
I'd love to see the Rochester teams win this. I know some kids from each of the teams and like to see them have some success.

I am sure the referee's will echo your sentiments...Dont get me wrong..this is a great tournament but the Refs tilt a bit to the South in Rochester...

Posted: **Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:56 am**

HOFam'r,

Keep us updated on these games.

Thanks

Posted: **Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:34 pm**

Sioux Fan wrote: Class A brackets
Class A Varsity
Princeton 3 vs. Albert Lea 5 12:15 PM Graham Four
Duluth Denfeld 2 vs. Totino-Grace 4 2:30 PM Graham Four
International Falls 3 vs. Richfield 2 4:45 PM Graham Four
Alexandria 1 vs. Rochester Lourdes 4 7:00 PM Graham Four

Seminfinals
Albert Lea 4 Totino Grace 3
Rochester Lourdes 5 International Falls 3

Finals

Rochester Lourdes 3 Albert Lea 2

Consolation semis
Alexandria 2 Richfield 3
Duluth Denfield 2 Princeton 1

Toilet Bowl
Princeton 1 Alexandria 2

Consolation Finals
Duluth Denfield 3 Richfield 2

Third Place game
International Falls 4 Totino Grace 2

I know their YOUR predictions but these picks are a little off IMO. At one point you have Denfeld beating Princeton 2-1. Denfeld already beat Princeton 9-0 this season. You also have Lourdes beating Falls which won't likely happen and I don't think TG will beat Denfeld either. It will be Princeton and Richfield in the Toilet Bowl and Albert Lea will certainly not be in the championship game. The only reason they'll even make the third place game is because they have Princeton in the first round. The winner of the Denfeld - TG game will be in the championship game; most likely against International Falls. BUT, that is just my opinion compared to yours.

Posted: **Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:43 pm**

Any scores yet? I am caught at work until tonight!

Posted: **Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:50 pm**

For those interested in keeping tabs on the results....Here is a link to the Kiwanis Hockey Festival website:

http://www.kiwanisrochester.org/hockey/Index.htm

Posted: **Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:28 pm**

Did Hastings beat Fargo today?

Posted: **Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:29 pm**

SEMinnHockeyNut wrote:Any scores yet? I am caught at work until tonight!

I heard...
AL 11
Princeton 1

Posted: **Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:46 pm**

RSI wrote:
SEMinnHockeyNut wrote:Any scores yet? I am caught at work until tonight!
I heard...
AL 11
Princeton 1

That is correct
Another FINAL

Denfeld 7
TG 4

Posted: **Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:39 pm**

Mayo 4 NR 1
Mayo took only 2 penalties in the third period, but NR took 4-5 penalties in the third.

Posted: **Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:40 pm**

[quote="bardown10"]Did Hastings beat Fargo today?[/quote]Fargo South won 4-1

Posted: **Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:55 pm**

Mayo 4 NR 1
Mayo took only 2 penalties in the third period, but NR took 4-5 penalties in the third.

Take better notes...

Mayo was called for five straight penalties, the New Richmond had 6 straight (1 in the 1st, 3 in the 2nd, and 2 in the 3rd)

Both teams had one PP goal. Once Mayo decided to play (the 3rd period), it wasn't much of a game.

Posted: **Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:28 pm**

I thought Mayo spent a good portion of the third up a man too, though I could be wrong. At times during some of the games I would cringe as this tournament has a history of a bit of a touch of "Homer" to it, that perception probably didn't change much today. The only positive is Welch and his Raiders are in the Consolation bracket and I won't have to watch him die of a coronary as his team is called for 14 straight penalties like it was a few years ago.

The AA side isn't bad hockey, but the A side is better hockey. I think all 4 A teams that won are better than the the 4 AA teams. AL wasn't tested, Denfield and Int. Falls looked very good and I didn't see much of Lourdes. Buffalo wasn't impressive, Fargo South was the best looking AA team I saw. Mayo played 1 period of hockey and the Century/AV game while close wasn't really all that exciting a game of hockey.

One of the JV games went through OT and at least 8 deep in a shootout before it was settled.

Posted: **Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:43 pm**

Mayo played poorly....they didn't seem to have very good legs. To be honest, they seemed as average as Goldy described them - a far cry from what I saw last Friday night IMO.

I wish I could have seen the Hastings/Fargo South game.
Buffalo looked average against a very weak JM team.
Century and Apple Valley was boring - way too much just dumping the puck in deep, then chipping it out of the zone - absolutely no flow to the game.

I-Falls looked good from the limited amount I saw.
Lourdes played well, but they better play better tomorrow night to beat the Broncos.
I am interested to see how AL does against Denfeld.

Posted: **Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:47 pm**

goldy313 wrote:I thought Mayo spent a good portion of the third up a man too, though I could be wrong. At times during some of the games I would cringe as this tournament has a history of a bit of a touch of "Homer" to it, that perception probably didn't change much today.
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Do you know where the refs come from? Bergstrom, Arnold & Fudoryk are from Austin. Fox & Charbonneau are from Red Wing. Hendrikson & Rozeski are from Owatonna. Swafford is from Mankato. Vandebosch is from Hastings. I think the only Rochester refs are Deters, Dunfee, Dusso and Zmolek. The linesmen might be local but I don't know all of them. There are probably only 6 regular (boys) refs in Rochester and the other local officials tend to be linesmen or girls refs. If you want to think that "Homer" includes anyone from a 100 mile radius I guess they are homers

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Posted: **Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:51 pm**

I agree.....since Mayo got called for 7 penalties to New Richmond's 6, I am not sure the 'Homer' label applies here again.

New Richmond did a nice job on the body, but also did a good job hooking and holding Mayo's better skaters as well.

Posted: **Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:22 pm**

goldy313 wrote:
SEMinnHockeyNut wrote:Goldy - Were you at the game Friday night? Had Mayo played like that, they would've handled Owatonna. They finished well and played physical!
Woulda, coulda shoulda, didn't. You're dealing in hypotheticals here

The D still made some mistakes, but played better than normal.

Everyone was raving about Grafton, but now it is not a good win?
Who was? Not me. They're not as good as Owatonna, West, AL, or Mayo.

Isn't blasting teams 11-1 worth something?
No it's not, especially when these teams are among the worst in the state and when you're skating your top line every other shift in an 8 goal game. Mayo has never had a problem running up the score on teams.

Is Century that bad? Earlier a 6 goal loss to Edina was called a good loss, but now they are horrible? I just don't think you are giving them enough credit is all.
There are no good losses and yes Century isn't very good. They can't score.

The Spartans had the same number of shots as Roseville, but played their #2 goalie that game; they gave up quite a few to Grafton, but some many were during the PP and from the outside. They have scored 54 goals in 8 games, which is good against any teams.
Point taken, but I don't care about goal margins when you're running up the score.

What gets me about Rochester people is how they view their teams. They beat up on smaller class A schools and can't compete on a state level with the big schools. They consistantly have football teams rated in the top 10 in the state yet lose first round section games at home against 2-6 metro teams. Great you beat a small school by 30 points or 10 goals, what's the point? That team is going to get knocked out of their section in the first round anyhow. Of the major boys sports (football, hockey, basketball, wrestling, and baseball) only their baseball teams show any consistant success. You can view a 12-1 over Austin as a great accomplishment, I don't. Beat Edina, Roseville, somebody - anybody. good[/i]
dude u cant bring football into it....we kno that we could beat anyteam from the metro in football if we had a coach that knew how to coach

Posted: **Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:51 pm**

Anybody have scores for the Denfeld vs Albert Lea game and the Int. Falls vs. Lourdes game? I'm getting very frustrated that I can't find the score anywhere on the internet!

Posted: **Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:55 pm**

fkahckyprofessor20 wrote:Anybody have scores for the Denfeld vs Albert Lea game and the Int. Falls vs. Lourdes game? I'm getting very frustrated that I can't find the score anywhere on the internet!

From www.prephockeynorth.com:

Albert Lea 3,
Duluth Denfeld 2
Final

Falls vs. Lourdes is still in progress... I have no updates yet.

Posted: **Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:00 pm**

Although disappointing, thanks for the update!

Posted: **Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:02 pm**

Internation Falls 3
Rochester Lourdes 2 OT

Should make for an interesting match up for the championship. Being from AL and after watching a little bit of I Falls i predict a tight, physical game with a strong performance from ALs Waalkens in net. My prediction:

AL 3
I Falls 1

1 empty netter

But then again I am from AL haha.

Posted: **Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:06 pm**

I will try and type s-l-o-w-l-y for Rocket78,
Homer has no relation to where you're from. The biggest Homer I've ever seen was a guy Ihad the misfortune of reffing with on a handfull of occasions. He's from Mankato and was a homer in Rochester, Owatonna, Faribault, and Mankato. It didn't matter where he was the home team was getting the benefit. he's the only guy I've ever seen where the home coach has apologized for the game. Jerry Seeman, former NFL referee also did high school basketball games in the area, he was a good official but played so badly to the home crowd that he made Leslie Neilson's umpiring scene in Naked Gun look like real life. Which brings me to percetion a word you must not understand, because perception doesn't mean fact, it means it's your opinion. Jerry Seeman was a great official but homer applied to him on occasion because he was percieved as being for the home team, when in reality he just played the crowd which of course was largely for the home team.

Though I don't think it made a difference in the outcome those officials who did the Mayo/Century game were hopelessly outmatched by the game. They did a nice job in the first game but didn't ever seem to get a handle on the intracity game. If all worked out both teams got out of there healthy.

Posted: **Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:10 pm**

Lourdes outplayed IFalls-Falls had great goaltending and Yousso is phenomonal.

I say Falls 4-1 over A-Lea

Lourdes should beat Denfeld

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