White Bear Lake vs. Mounds View 1/19/08

pucks/sticks · Post by **pucks/sticks** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:59 pm

Not sure what your looking for but Ryan is a 10th grader and is good. Played bantam A last year for MV so like most, it probably took him a few games to catch up to the faster pace of high school hockey. It was a big lose for MV to not keep one of there own. From my understanding his dad is president of the booster at MV and brother is a senior captain. How do you not go out of your way to keep a kid that can help rebuild your program.

hartyy56 · Post by **hartyy56** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:01 pm

pucks/sticks wrote:Sounds like a good game what where the shots. Heard another MV player walked off the team a couple of days ago. Any truth to that?

its true. his name is logan eastburn and he left to play for some other team..?

ryan is a sophomore he was a captain of mv's A bantam team last year.

pucks/sticks · Post by **pucks/sticks** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:04 pm

Someone said that there was a player named Geno that just left?

hartyy56 · Post by **hartyy56** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:13 pm

oh yea he just left too cause he thought he could get on a better team but... he cant.

pucks/sticks · Post by **pucks/sticks** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:20 pm

what is causing these guys to leave the program? Can a team like MV continue to have 3 or so quality player quit or leave every year.

hartyy56 · Post by **hartyy56** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:30 pm

well in my opinion i wouldnt consider some of them.. quality players. i mean yea they have moments they have great potential but they need a good attitude first.

pucks/sticks · Post by **pucks/sticks** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:04 pm

hartyy56 - I see your from the area so maybe have some insite on the team. I would say losing a player like Walter is quality and it looks like this Geno kid was 3rd or 4th in points according to pointstreak. Thats two pretty quality players. Someone close to the program told me they lost a 2nd year senior forward real early in the season Bowell (not sure on the spelling). I agree that attitude is huge but that should be handled right away by the staff. Do you play for the Mustangs?

guitarer1c · Post by **guitarer1c** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:15 pm

pucks/sticks wrote:Not sure what your looking for but Ryan is a 10th grader and is good. Played bantam A last year for MV so like most, it probably took him a few games to catch up to the faster pace of high school hockey. It was a big lose for MV to not keep one of there own. From my understanding his dad is president of the booster at MV and brother is a senior captain. How do you not go out of your way to keep a kid that can help rebuild your program.

I was just curious as to how he ended up with WB while his brother stayed with MV.

ImissMYhockey · Post by **ImissMYhockey** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:40 pm

this game was awesome to watch, not only was danny going after ryan every chance he had but so were a bunch of the other mv players. Talk about having a target on your back.

hartyy56 · Post by **hartyy56** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:48 pm

i dont play but i know people on the team. i also go to every game i can. there is another player we "lost"- david croonquist i think his name was. he was a great player but he especially didnt have the attitude. on the day he was going to quit the staff asked him if he would quit. not sure if you were at the game but one of our cheers was "bring back croonquist". it really is a shame that so many players are leaving the mv program.

pucks/sticks · Post by **pucks/sticks** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:42 pm

Wasn't he an hold Stillwater kid? Decided to check out tonka vs BSM that night. I do try and follow the MV team though. Let me ask you this since you know some of these kids. why are they leaving the program?

hartyy56 · Post by **hartyy56** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:14 pm

honestly, i dont know for sure. they said they can do better.. as in get on a better team. but i just dont understand why.

fffhockey · Post by **fffhockey** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:03 pm

I heard the Geno kid used to play at Stillwater, from what I saw of him he could play the game- when he wanted to. Apparently he has a lot of attitude and thought he was special. Seemed like he played hard when he felt like it- which wasn't all the time. He was a junior. The other one that left recently- Eastburn didn't play much, so I don't think that will affect the team much. They have definitely had a lot senior and junior quitters this year. Their record may not be good, but it's better than it was last year at the end of the season and only half way through this season. Lots of close/OT/1 pt games, some of those that they should have won. From what I've seen they have really never been a team since the old coach was let go, but is that the new coaches fault? It is his 3rd season and they do seem to lose a lot of players to other schools. I think their 10th graders took first in their A bantam season last year. But will the high school coach be able to continue their success in the future?

ImissMYhockey · Post by **ImissMYhockey** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:50 pm

gino villella was form stillwater and a player that will be missed. He was 3rd or 4th on the team in points. As far as their record goes they are 1 win away from totaling their wins from last year. The previous coach never had a fantastic team either as far as records go. The best he ever did was a .500 team. My final comment is about their A bantam team, a couple of players from that team are playing varsity but they are without their best player from the A bantam team, Ryan Wolter, he plays for White Bear.

pucks/sticks · Post by **pucks/sticks** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:38 pm

Not to keep beating a dead horse but isn't this team like 1-9 in conference? Thats an improvement from the past? If they could have kept that Wolters kid it would have helped but from what I've heard the coaching had alot to do with him not wanting to play for MV. I know its been posted hear that "the coach is in his 3rd season and he does seem to lose alot of kids to other schools" but isn't it part of his job to get very involved with the youth program and show his face around a lot of games? When you already know that history shows you have issue keeping kids you better go out of your way to talk as much as possible to the young guys at the youth program so they want to play for you some day. As far last years bantam team goes I know the old coach pretty well and a lot of people thought they would go down hill once they lost Alt to CDH. That young group was pretty driven. I know alot can't be put on coaches but that program can not continue to lose kids and it seems to get worse every year.

ImissMYhockey · Post by **ImissMYhockey** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:15 am

yea they are 1-9 in the confrence but if you look at there losses none of them are blowouts. All of their confrence games have been close 4-2 to cretin with and empty net goal, 1-0 OT against roseville with the goal coming with 2 seconds remaining, 3-1 to WBL a close game throughout. Their overall record is 7-9. Last year they won 8 games and the year before 7, they got blown out atleast once every 5 games too. They are much better than previous years and even though their record doesn't show it ask any other coaches in the SEC and they will tell you that this team isn't a joke like the past couple of years.

whitebearsuperfanB · Post by **whitebearsuperfanB** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:40 pm

Isn't a large part of the reason their team isn't a joke is because of the goaltending? I've heard their goalie was playing really well and he played very solid against WB.

pucks/sticks · Post by **pucks/sticks** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:43 pm

whitebearsuperfanB wrote:Isn't a large part of the reason their team isn't a joke is because of the goaltending? I've heard their goalie was playing really well and he played very solid against WB.

Could not agree more.

hartyy56 · Post by **hartyy56** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:03 pm

ImissMYhockey wrote:yea they are 1-9 in the confrence but if you look at there losses none of them are blowouts. All of their confrence games have been close 4-2 to cretin with and empty net goal, 1-0 OT against roseville with the goal coming with 2 seconds remaining, 3-1 to WBL a close game throughout. Their overall record is 7-9. Last year they won 8 games and the year before 7, they got blown out atleast once every 5 games too. They are much better than previous years and even though their record doesn't show it ask any other coaches in the SEC and they will tell you that this team isn't a joke like the past couple of years.

very true.

i know almost all the kids on JV and most of them were on the A bantam team. i'm kind of excited to see them playing at the varsity level in the next year or two because those kids have real potential. they play well as a TEAM which, i think, is what our varsity team needs right now.

itstime · Post by **itstime** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:04 pm

I've been watching this thread for some time. I'll start by saying I also agree the goalie is a huge reason they have kept the games closer. Also lets not get over our heads Imissmyhockey CDH is down this year. MV has been outshot 2 to 1 by WBL, 2 to 1 Wood. and 3-1 by Stillwater. Let me say I was around the youth program for 3 years and have coached some of these young men and take nothing away from them or the coach. My biggest concern with MV is that I think many people are just fine with being average or competitive. My feeling is that if that's what you want, you'll do just enough to get there but why not train to win? Lets not be ok with just being close enough, that doesn't get you to the next round come section time. Its time for this program to take it to the next level and have the attitude that lets beat the WBL, Woodbury, Rosevilles ect. and start putting in the extra time as a team to get over the hump. It can happen but it needs to start by changing the attitude of how they approach the season. Being part of the program it will always be apart of me and I want to see these program get turned around but it will take lots of hard work!

myoldschool · Post by **myoldschool** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:55 pm

ImissMYhockey wrote:gino villella was form stillwater and a player that will be missed. He was 3rd or 4th on the team in points. As far as their record goes they are 1 win away from totaling their wins from last year. The previous coach never had a fantastic team either as far as records go. The best he ever did was a .500 team. My final comment is about their A bantam team, a couple of players from that team are playing varsity but they are without their best player from the A bantam team, Ryan Wolter, he plays for White Bear.

We won seventeen games in 2003/2004. You should do your homework on your own school. And try not forgetting the "old coach" kept you around as the fifth goalie out of the kindness of his heart. GET OFF OUR SIDE

pucks/sticks · Post by **pucks/sticks** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:54 pm

Was that Nitti's last season with MV? If so how come they would get rid of him?

saintpaulhockey · Post by **saintpaulhockey** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:13 pm

It's too bad Moundsview couldn't keep some of these players in the program. I know last year they would've had Ryan McDonagh, Mike Hoeffel and Sean Scott from CDH (solid player), also this Wolter kid and Mark Alt from CDH who is a very coveted D-1 prospect.

ImissMYhockey · Post by **ImissMYhockey** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:25 pm

saintpaulhockey wrote:It's too bad Moundsview couldn't keep some of these players in the program. I know last year they would've had Ryan McDonagh, Mike Hoeffel and Sean Scott from CDH (solid player), also this Wolter kid and Mark Alt from CDH who is a very coveted D-1 prospect.

I heard he was drafted in the futures 2nd overall, is this true?

mvhockey12 · Post by **mvhockey12** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:09 pm

[/quote]We won seventeen games in 2003/2004. You should do your homework on your own school. And try not forgetting the "old coach" kept you around as the fifth goalie out of the kindness of his heart. GET OFF OUR SIDE[/quote]

What does get off our side even mean?? I'm pretty sure Imissmyhockey wasn't even ripping on those teams from the previous coach or his records or anything.

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