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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:57 am
by nipeshow18
Yeah, I am trying to figure how you can call these cupcake teams? Buffalo has a solid group of guys that are back from last year and Apple Valley has done well to start the year. I watched South play against WBL and Moorhead and they play solid defense and capitalize on mistakes. Mayo is no slouch team either. It's gonna be a competitive tournament.
And on another note, how can you expect any other tournaments to have a spectacular field with the schwans going on? No offense to Roseau or anything but their holiday tournament is the biggest joke of them all.
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:45 pm
by SEMinnHockeyNut
I don't know much about Fargo other than the movie stunk.
That is the only line you need to read to understand that Rook Eye is a complete idiot and jack-donkey. Fargo is a film, not a movie. If you don't know the difference, you should not be commenting on anything, yet alone, the great game of hockey.
Last year Mayo beat Grafton, which won the ND state tourney. Fargo South is usually good, sometimes great. AV is making a nice rebound this year. Mayo is a good team, which can compete with most teams most nights.
You obviously don't look at all the holiday tournaments to see that this field is deeper than most - not to mention you can walk between rinks to see great A and AA hockey under one roof.
Rochester - nothing since the 70's? You obviously did not see the 1989 Rockets, the 1995, 1997, 1999, 2000 Spartans, the early 2000-2002 Lourdes teams or the 2007 Panthers. Do us all a favor and go away.
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:28 pm
by ROOK EYE
o.k your either the director of this lousy tournament or your Joe Kiwanis himself. The only bright thing you said was "The great game of Hockey".
1. Rochester Mayo can play with most teams, most nights.. That may be true, but there in a lousy Conference/Section/Holiday tournament. That would only stand to reason..
2. Since 1990 how many times has a Rochester team, or anyone from Section 1 for that matter, got out of the loser's bracket at the State Tournament. A couple maybe??
3. J.M hasn't been any good for 20year's.
4. Hastings stinks and has for a long time, with no end in sight.
5. How many trips to State has Buffalo made? Section Finals?
6. A.V, although playing pretty well to this point will find a way to finish at, or near the bottem of their conference.
As far as "taking a the short walk to watch some great A action"?? (not at this tournament anyways. You might be walking a while)
Your mad at me, so i will just assume that one slipped. I think what i'll do instead is grab some popcorn and walk to the nearest cinema and catch a "film"... How's that?
"Let's go catch a film" Hmmmm... That just doesn't sound right..
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:24 pm
by SEMNHOCKEYFAN
ROOK EYE wrote:o.k your either the director of this lousy tournament or your Joe Kiwanis himself. The only bright thing you said was "The great game of Hockey".
1. Rochester Mayo can play with most teams, most nights.. That may be true, but there in a lousy Conference/Section/Holiday tournament. That would only stand to reason..
2. Since 1990 how many times has a Rochester team, or anyone from Section 1 for that matter, got out of the loser's bracket at the State Tournament. A couple maybe??
3. J.M hasn't been any good for 20year's.
4. Hastings stinks and has for a long time, with no end in sight.
5. How many trips to State has Buffalo made? Section Finals?
6. A.V, although playing pretty well to this point will find a way to finish at, or near the bottem of their conference.
As far as "taking a the short walk to watch some great A action"?? (not at this tournament anyways. You might be walking a while)
Your mad at me, so i will just assume that one slipped. I think what i'll do instead is grab some popcorn and walk to the nearest cinema and catch a "film"... How's that?
"Let's go catch a film" Hmmmm... That just doesn't sound right..
Dude u dont know much.......Century made it to the semi finals at state like 3 years ago and also.....Do u have any idea how good the rochester teams/schools would be if say they only had 2 high schools like JM and Mayo....Throw in some of the century kids with either JM or Mayo and Boom they could be better then some cities team!
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:43 pm
by spartanfan2121
Dude u dont know much.......Century made it to the semi finals at state like 3 years ago and also.....Do u have any idea how good the rochester teams/schools would be if say they only had 2 high schools like JM and Mayo....Throw in some of the century kids with either JM or Mayo and Boom they could be better then some cities team![/quote]
That is very true
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:22 pm
by ROOK EYE
C'mon Dude's. . I don't care about a few year's. Go back to like, say 1990. Make this a real argument. And i don't really care about the could'a/would'a/ should'a/ stuff. Rochester is a big community, and for quite some time, other than a couple exceptions their teams have failed miserbly.
My original point was. This is far from an elite tournament. Most of the teams in both fields, are pretty weak, and that seems to have been the case most of the last several year's. I can appreciate you sticking up for your town, but i for one am not impressed and need to see/hear more than "what if"?
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:53 pm
by komada77
SEMinnHockeyNut wrote:I don't know much about Fargo other than the movie stunk.
That is the only line you need to read to understand that Rook Eye is a complete idiot and jack-donkey. Fargo is a film, not a movie. If you don't know the difference, you should not be commenting on anything, yet alone, the great game of hockey.
hahahahhaha are you one of those losers who sits in a coffee shop wearing a beret and pretending to type a novel on your laptop, cause you sure sound like you are with that line. movies and films are the same thing to everyone whos not a total dbag. and this tourney field sucks.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:17 am
by SEMinnHockeyNut
Actually I would never wear a beret, nor do I vist coffee shops much. And when I do, I read a book. Ever heard of one of those? My guess is I read more books in a year than you will in your lifetime.
Movies and films are not the same thing. My guess is that you have seen all of the 'Scary Movies' - wow...what art that is....my guess is that you are also a big fan of things like Spiderman, Independance Day, and other 'blockbuster' garbage that does nothing but numb the mind.
If you don't know the difference, let me try to explain it to you.
Crap like Pearl Harbor is a movie - pretty much everything Disney does is a movie since the only goal is to make money and sell things.
Saving Private Ryan would be considered a film, since the goal is to tell a story and have an artistic approach to the endeavor (I hope that word is not too big for you).
Another analogy would be that Miller Lite is a movie, and Summit Pale Ale is a film...one is made to make money and sell you crap, the other is meant to encourage the art of brewing beer. There is a difference.
My guess is that you think Tom Cruise's finest acting was in a movie like War of the Worlds or Top Gun, but probably have never seen Magnolia or Eyes Wide Shut.
Thanks for your limited opinion. Now the Kiwanis is not the most elite tournament out there, but it is far from the worst. It is much, much better than Fergus Falls, Roseau, and the ones Owatonna and Winona hosted.
I would guess that Fargo South will compete for the ND title. Mayo and Century have a chance to make state, as does Apple Valley, and Buffalo.
Obviously it is not anything near the Schwann's gold, but it is definitely comparable to the Bronze, and maybe even the Silver.
Lastly, I believe there is a NASCAR thread somewhere on the internet...perhaps you should be posting on that one since hockey would be a film, and that would be a movie - that is, if you get the analogy.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:23 pm
by gino321
None of these teams play anybody all year. Apple Valley plays in one of the toughest conferences in this state, if not the toughest and they are doing very well. This year they have a whole new team, I have caught a couple of their games and think they have a great chance of winning this tournament.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:17 pm
by SouthrenHockey44
[quote="gino321"]None of these teams play anybody all year. Apple Valley plays in one of the toughest conferences in this state, if not the toughest and they are doing very well. This year they have a whole new team, I have caught a couple of their games and think they have a great chance of winning this tournament.[/quote]
Just Looking at the Century Boys,
White Bear Lake Area 1 - 7 L
12/2/2008 Tartan 6 - 3 W
12/4/2008 Lakeville North 3 - 4 L
12/23/2008 Benilde-St. Margaret's School
1/8/2009 Rosemount 0 - 0
1/16/2009 Lakeville South 0 - 0
1/23/2009 Duluth East 0 - 0
1/24/2009 Marshall School, Duluth 0 - 0
2/21/2009 Roseville Area
For a Big 9 and Section 1AA team, this is a pretty good schedual
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:33 pm
by gino321
I am not saying that is a horrible schedule, but i think that Apple Valleys is harder
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:20 pm
by O4daluvofhockey
Valley and Fargo South dual for first, who guessed this one right?
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:10 pm
by HockeyHigh
Results from this tournament.
Boys Hockey | AA championship goes to Fargo South
By Jason Feldman
Post-Bulletin, Rochester MN
It had been three years since Fargo (N.D.) South had played in the championship game of the Kiwanis/Wells Fargo hockey Festival.
The wait turned out to be worth it for the Bruins, who rolled over Apple Valley, 5-1, to claim their second Festival championship. Their first title came in 2005.
Apple Valley struck first, as Pete Sikich scored on a power play at 15:23 of the first period, but South responded almost immediately. David Mauch answered 17 seconds later -- the first of his two goals -- to tie the score. South didn't trail the rest of the way.
Grant Narveson notched the game-winning goal 3 minutes into the second period, and then added an insurance goal just more than five minutes later.
Ward Briggs and Mauch each scored once in the third to cap the scoring.
THIRD PLACE: Mayo 3, Century 0. This is the type of performance Jordan Yaggy had been searching for. Ditto for his Rochester Mayo teammates.
Yaggy, Mayo's senior goalie, stopped all 17 shots he faced to lift the Spartans to a 3-0 victory over intra-city rival Rochester Century in the third-place game. It's the first shutout of the season for Yaggy and for Mayo, which improved to 7-4-0 this season.
"This is huge," Yaggy said. "It's exactly what me personally and all of us as a team needed, to play well all the way through a game. This was probably our best overall game so far. We just tried to not get too caught up in playing Century two times in four days."
Mayo and Century will meet again Saturday in a non-conference game at the Rochester Recreation Center at 3 p.m., with a JV game at 1 p.m. It is a makeup game for the scheduled Dec. 20 game that was wiped out by a snowstorm.
Wednesday, Mayo didn't allow Century to gain any momentum. The Spartans' defense limited Century to just one shot in the first period and 17 in the game. Senior forward Tom Alexander took care of the goal support for Yaggy. Alexander notched a hat trick, scoring once in each period to account for all of the goals scored in the game.
"That was a very good performance (by Yaggy)," Mayo coach Lorne Grosso said. "He had a lot of energy and a lot of confidence. He was very aggressive. I was surprised by how much energy our whole team had. I was very impressed."
For Century, it was tough to bounce back after suffering an emotionally-deflating 4-3 overtime loss to Fargo (N.D.) South just 15 hours earlier. The Panthers had to kill three first-period penalties and generated only a handful of scoring chances.
"We spent six minutes killing penalties in the first period and utilizing the same guys over and over," Century coach Bruce Frutiger said. "We killed them all, but we have to stay out of the box.
"Overall, the boys played an excellent tournament. We had two games where we moved in the right direction and improved. (Wednesday) we just took too many penalties and didn't click at all on the power play."
FIFTH PLACE: New Richmond (Wis.) 4, Buffalo 1. Joe Bowar tied the score with an unassisted short-handed goal in the first period, then scored the game winner 6:05 into the second period. Sam Stroot and Josh Leavens also scored for the Tigers (3-5-0).
SEVENTH PLACE: Hastings 9, JM 1. Hastings scored four goals in the first 11 minutes of the game and never looked back, outshooting Rochester John Marshall 35-14. Hastings notched three goals in a span of 3 minutes, 15 seconds midway through the first, then tacked on five second-period goals. Derek Hovick scored the lone goal for the Rockets (4-7-0) at the 6:44 mark of the third, with assists from Tom Foley and Nate Polansky.
Apple Valley did better than I supposed in their first two games, but the end result was what I predicted.
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:49 pm
by hockeyblitz
Well I just jumped on the blog for the first time in a few weeks and Wow!!! what a conversation. Looks like hockey talk and a little siskel and ebert going on. Well anyway I give my little tidbits regarding these issues. No, the Kiwanis tournament isn't the greatest tourney out there but it had some descent teams represented (Fargo South, Apple Valley, Lourdes) There are some better tourneys out there and there are some worse ones as well. Obviousley the Shwan's takes the cake. Now a little on the Rocherster hockey arguements. Other than Century going to state a few years ago and yes making it into the semis Rochester has been stale as far as hockey is concerned. As three schools represented they are not very consistent among them in doing much in hockey. Yes the three schools does hurt them but it is what it is. In my opinion the school that hurts them the most is Lourdes. Take a few mayo kids that opted to go to school at Lourdes and put them back and you would have an excellent team this year at mayo. But of course The metro teams probably have this same issue with holy angels, st. thomas academy and so forth so this can't be used as an excuse. SE hockey nut , in your response that Century and Mayo have a chance at state I think that is a reach. Certainly they play in a VERY WEAK section which allows them the confort of only having to beat Lakeville South and North. However I don't think they can come close to either. In looking at the schedule of South for instance and how they competed it looks as if Mayo would need the luck of the Irish to get by them but mabye alot of the players on Mayo are irish. Mayo was a stronger team last year and they still couldn't get past South in the section. But again the section besides South and possibly North is not very good. If they did make it due soley because of this it would set them up for a severe ass pounding in the first round. And in regards to the Film or Movie topic, I 'm going to pass and leave this one alone.