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rankings
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:59 pm
by nungitchida
1 WARROAD
2 Breck
3 SCC
4 STA
5 LittleFalls
6 HermanTown
7 South St Paul
8 Thief River Falls
9 Mahtomedi
10 Alexandria
1 Bloomington J
2 Eden Prairie
3 Edina
4 Centennial
5 Duluth East
6 Maple Grove
7 Minnetonka
8 Blaine
9 Benilde
10 Hill Murray
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:21 pm
by Theclassicburbs
Goldy Gopher wrote:A
1. St. Thomas Academy
2. Little Falls
3. St. Cloud Cathedral
4. Hermantown
5. Warroad
6. Breck
7. Mahtomedi
8. Thief River Falls
9. Alexandria
10. Hibbing
11. Duluth Marshall
12. Virginia
13. Rochester Lourdes
14. International Falls
15. South St. Paul
AA
1. Bloomington Jefferson
2. Centennial
3. Edina
4. Eden Prairie
5. Duluth East
6. Blaine
7. Minnetonka
8. Wayzata
9. Academy of Holy Angels
10. Benilde-St. Margaret’s
11. Woodbury
12. Maple Grove
13. Moorhead
14. Burnsville
15. White Bear Lake
Goldy I am sorry but your A rankings are so far off...
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:03 am
by DoubleDeuce
A question for Lucia4President. So are you adding up these rankings as they are posted or will you do it all on Sunday? The reason I ask, is as the week goes on and games are played, my personal rankings have changed. If you are doing it at the end of the week, there should be no problem me editing my rankings. No big deal, I just don't wanna mess you up.
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:37 pm
by FlyerFan12
Class A
1. LF
2. STA
3. SCC
4. Alex
5. Warroad
6. Breck
7. Hermantown
8. SSP
9. DM
10. TRF
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:40 am
by Lucia4President
DoubleDeuce wrote:A question for Lucia4President. So are you adding up these rankings as they are posted or will you do it all on Sunday? The reason I ask, is as the week goes on and games are played, my personal rankings have changed. If you are doing it at the end of the week, there should be no problem me editing my rankings. No big deal, I just don't wanna mess you up.
I have thought about this as the week has played out. I've been keeping a running tally, but if you choose to edit your rankings, I'll take that into account. The plan I had behind this was a college hockey type ranking system, where teams get points for 1st, 2nd, etc. If anyone has an idea in regards to how I could make this better, feel free to post it.
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:17 am
by DoubleDeuce
Lucia4President wrote:DoubleDeuce wrote:A question for Lucia4President. So are you adding up these rankings as they are posted or will you do it all on Sunday? The reason I ask, is as the week goes on and games are played, my personal rankings have changed. If you are doing it at the end of the week, there should be no problem me editing my rankings. No big deal, I just don't wanna mess you up.
I have thought about this as the week has played out. I've been keeping a running tally, but if you choose to edit your rankings, I'll take that into account. The plan I had behind this was a college hockey type ranking system, where teams get points for 1st, 2nd, etc. If anyone has an idea in regards to how I could make this better, feel free to post it.
I guess I figured that's how you were going to do it. That's how I would do it. But you realize there are only two weeks left of the regular season anyway. But it could make for a good trial run or test if you will for next year. I think it would be best to tally up at the end of the week. Looking at the way my rankings were tuesday, compared to what happened this week looks kinda silly.
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:50 am
by karl(east)
AA only
1. Jefferson
2. EP
3. Duluth East
4. Edina
5. Benilde
6. Minnetonka
7. Maple Grove
8. Centennial
9. Blaine
10. Holy Angels
11. Elk River
12. Moorhead
13. Woodbury
14. Wayzata
15. Hill
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:55 pm
by joycer10
AA Top 15
1. Bloomington Jefferson
2. Eden Praire
3. Edina
4. Duluth East
5. Minnetonka
6. Centennial
7. Blaine
8. Academy of Holy Angles
9. Maple Grove
10. Woodbury
11. Benilde-St. Margarets
12. Moorhead
13. Hill-Murray
14. Wayzata
15. White Bear Lake
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:00 pm
by Studhockey00004
MNHockey75 wrote:A
1. St. Thomas Academy 15-3-1 (overrated)
2. Little Falls 17-0
3. St. Cloud Cathedral 16-2-1
4. Warroad 18-2
5. Hermantown 17-2
6. Breck 15-3-1
7. South St. Paul 12-4-3
8. Thief River Falls 12-4-2 (overrated)
9. Mahtomedi 13-5-1
10. Hibbing 12-5-1 (overrated)
11. Duluth Marshall 10-7-1
12. Virginia 15-5
13. Alexandria 15-3
14. International Falls 12-5-1
15. Rochester Lourdes 12-6
AA
1. Bloomington Jefferson 18-0
2. Centennial 14-1-3
3. Edina 16-3
4. Eden Prairie 15-3
5. Blaine 17-1-1
6. Duluth East 15-3-1
7. Minnetonka 14-5
8. Academy of Holy Angels 13-4-1
9. Wayzata 12-6-1
10. Benilde-St. Margaret’s 14-4
11. Woodbury 16-2-2
12. Hill-Murray 13-5-1
13. Maple Grove 14-2-3
14. Moorhead 8-8-2 (overrated)
15. Burnsville 9-9-1
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:36 pm
by northhockey23
1.Jefferson
2.Centennial
3.EP
4.Minnetonka
5.Edina
6.Blaine
7.Duluth East
8.Maple Grove
9.Benilde
10.Holy Angels
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:55 pm
by dulutheastfan
(02-08-09)
Class AA
1. Bloomington Jefferson (21-0-0)
2. Eden Prairie (18-3-0)
3. Duluth East (17-3-1)
4. Edina (18-3-0)
5. Holy Angels (16-4-1)
6. Minnetonka (15-6-0)
7. Blaine (17-2-1)
8. Maple Grove (16-2-3)
9. Centennial (15-2-3)
10. Benilde-St. Margaret’s (17-4-0)
11. Woodbury (18-2-2)
12. Wayzata (13-7-1)
13. Hill-Murray (13-6-1)
14. Moorhead (9-9-2)
15. (tie) Elk River (12-7-1)
15. Hopkins (13-7-1)
Class A
1. Little Falls (20-0-0)
2. Warroad (20-2-0)
3. St. Thomas Academy (16-4-1)
4. Breck (17-3-1)
5. St. Cloud Cathedral (18-2-1)
6. Hermantown (19-2-0)
7. Virginia/MI-B (18-5-0)
8. South St. Paul (14-4-3)
9. Alexandria (16-3-1)
10. Thief River Falls (15-4-2)
11. Mahtomedi (14-5-1)
12. International Falls (14-6-1)
13. Duluth Marshall (12-7-1)
14. Hibbing/Chisholm (13-6-1)
15. (tie) Red Wing (13-7-0)
15. New Ulm (15-4-1)
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:11 am
by Goldy Gopher
02-08-09
KEY
Class A
1. Little Falls
2. Warroad
3. Breck
4. St. Thomas Academy
5. St. Cloud Cathedral
6. Hermantown
7. South St. Paul
8. Thief River Falls
9. Virgina
10. Alexandria
Class AA
1. Bloomington Jefferson
2. Eden Prairie
3. Duluth East
4. Edina
5. Minnetonka
6. Benilde
7. Centennial
8. Maple Grove
9. Holy Angels
10. Blaine
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:45 pm
by StillAnEagle
Class AA
1. Jefferson
2. Centennial
3. Eden Prairie
4. Edina
5. Minnetonka
6. Duluth East
7. Holy Angels
8. Blaine
9. Benilde
10. Maple Grove
I've always hated Jefferson, but have to be fair.
Edina would be 3 and EP 4, but Edina is slumping.
What is Class A again?
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:54 am
by Lucia4President
If anyone would be interested in submitting rankings each Sunday, PM me and let me know. I'm trying to get a panel together.
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:24 am
by hornetsnest
StillAnEagle wrote:Class AA
1. Jefferson
2. Centennial
3. Eden Prairie
4. Edina
5. Minnetonka
6. Duluth East
7. Holy Angels
8. Blaine
9. Benilde
10. Maple Grove
I've always hated Jefferson, but have to be fair.
Edina would be 3 and EP 4, but Edina is slumping.
In the last 2-weeks all of the top ten have had questionable losses. Edina has snapped out of their grinding funk, which I think was attributed more to the mental fatigue and the physical demands of their strength of schedule. The Hopkins game Thursday will be a great indicator of where the Hornets are truly at with their game. EP is playing very sound hockey this year and looked solid against BJ last night. Here is a sound check on some of the contenders.
1.EP-steady 2 losses to Edina, BJ only blemishes.
2.Edina 10 wins over current top 15, including 2 over EP. Is Mojo back?
3.Centennial, Win over Edina, good talent and depth.
4.Bloomington Jefferson-1-1 vs. EP, Lack of Schedule may hurt in long run.
5.Duluth East-Defense wins games.
6.Blaine-Big wins and big losses.
7.Benilde-finding a way to grind out a solid season.
8.Holy Angels-Physicality is a question mark come play-offs. Talent for sure.
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:31 am
by Factsmatter1
Hornetsnest... or Hornet-centric...
Jefferson has one bad night after Edina blows 3 out of 4 and Edina is ahead of Jefferson...
You lose to Tonka 4-1 and Edina goes up the ranking and Tonka go off the Top 8... you're kidding right...
I think you may want to leave ranking business to Karl and others...
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:57 am
by hornetsnest
Factsmatter1 wrote:Hornetsnest... or Hornet-centric...
Jefferson has one bad night after Edina blows 3 out of 4 and Edina is ahead of Jefferson...
You lose to Tonka 4-1 and Edina goes up the ranking and Tonka go off the Top 8... you're kidding right...
I think you may want to leave ranking business to Karl and others...
Factsmatter, My mistake on Minnetonka which I would put in anywhere between 4-6.
But since facts matter, breakdown for me these facts, and explain why in head to head comparisons Edina fared better in all but one head to head match-ups between BJ and Edina.
For section seeding, here are their similar opposition and results.
Edina 2-0 vs. EP 3-2 and 2-1. BJ - 1-1 vs. EP 2-1, 2-5
Edina 3-0 vs Wayz. 4-1,7-0,5-0 BJ - 1-0 vs. Wayz. 3-2
Edina 1-0 vs Moorhead. 3-0 BJ - 1-0 vs. Moorhead 4-3 OT
Edina 1-0 vs Grand Rap. 4-1 BJ - 1-0 vs. Grand Rap 7-0
Edina 1-0 vs Burns. 8-1 BJ - 2-0 vs. Burns. 4-2, 7-1
Edina has 10 wins against the latest Top 15 ranked schools.
Bloomington has 2 wins against this group. Edina has played only 3 teams this year that have not been ranked in the top 20. Cloquet, Buffalo and Armstrong. Could it be reasonable thinking, they might have more losses than Bloomington Jefferson?
Edina also has wins against formerly ranked Elk River, Moorhead, Grand Rapids & Burnsville.
My apologies for posting an opinion by the way. In the future I will try and stick to "justthefacts"
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:40 pm
by Factsmatter1
hornetsnest wrote:Factsmatter1 wrote:Hornetsnest... or Hornet-centric...
Jefferson has one bad night after Edina blows 3 out of 4 and Edina is ahead of Jefferson...
You lose to Tonka 4-1 and Edina goes up the ranking and Tonka go off the Top 8... you're kidding right...
I think you may want to leave ranking business to Karl and others...
Factsmatter, My mistake on Minnetonka which I would put in anywhere between 4-6.
But since facts matter, breakdown for me these facts, and explain why in head to head comparisons Edina fared better in all but one head to head match-ups between BJ and Edina.
For section seeding, here are their similar opposition and results.
Edina 2-0 vs. EP 3-2 and 2-1. BJ - 1-1 vs. EP 2-1, 2-5
Edina 3-0 vs Wayz. 4-1,7-0,5-0 BJ - 1-0 vs. Wayz. 3-2
Edina 1-0 vs Moorhead. 3-0 BJ - 1-0 vs. Moorhead 4-3 OT
Edina 1-0 vs Grand Rap. 4-1 BJ - 1-0 vs. Grand Rap 7-0
Edina 1-0 vs Burns. 8-1 BJ - 2-0 vs. Burns. 4-2, 7-1
Edina has 10 wins against the latest Top 15 ranked schools.
Bloomington has 2 wins against this group. Edina has played only 3 teams this year that have not been ranked in the top 20. Cloquet, Buffalo and Armstrong. Could it be reasonable thinking, they might have more losses than Bloomington Jefferson?
Edina also has wins against formerly ranked Elk River, Moorhead, Grand Rapids & Burnsville.
My apologies for posting an opinion by the way. In the future I will try and stick to "justthefacts"
Hornetnest, you redeemed yourself with the Tonka mea culpa. I agree with you more than I disagree with you regarding BJ and Edina however I think BJ needs another loss or two to fully make the case to the guys that rank the the teams. In the meantime you and I both probably agree that Edina (on a good day) is probably a better team than BJ. On another thread I made the case after watching the BJ - Eden Prairie game that BJ may not even belong in the top 5 but we may never know due to schedule. If Edina loses a few more games they may not be either... If they don't then they are a clearly a top 5 team.
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:20 pm
by HShockeywatcher
A
1. St. Thomas Academy
2. Breck
3. Little Falls
4. St. Cloud Cathedral
5. Warroad
6. Hermantown
7. South St. Paul
8. Thief River Falls
9. Mahtomedi
10. Hibbing
11. Alexandria
12. Virginia
13. Duluth Marshall
14. International Falls
15. Hutchinson
AA
1. Edina
2. Centennial
3. Eden Prairie
4. Minnetonka
5. Blaine
6. Duluth East
7. Bloomington Jefferson
8. Academy of Holy Angels
9. Benilde-St. Margaret’s
10. Elk River
11. Wayzata
12. Maple Grove
13. Wookbury
14. Hopkins
15. Hill Murray
Nice overview. No argument here
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:48 am
by Lakeviewing
HShockeywatcher wrote:A
1. St. Thomas Academy
2. Breck
3. Little Falls
4. St. Cloud Cathedral
5. Warroad
6. Hermantown
7. South St. Paul
8. Thief River Falls
9. Mahtomedi
10. Hibbing
11. Alexandria
12. Virginia
13. Duluth Marshall
14. International Falls
15. Hutchinson
AA
1. Edina
2. Centennial
3. Eden Prairie
4. Minnetonka
5. Blaine
6. Duluth East
7. Bloomington Jefferson
8. Academy of Holy Angels
9. Benilde-St. Margaret’s
10. Elk River
11. Wayzata
12. Maple Grove
13. Wookbury
14. Hopkins
15. Hill Murray
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:48 am
by toothpick25
No one cares about class A hockey.
Top 10 For AA Hockey.
1. Moorhead
2. Woodbury
3. Hill-Murray
4. Maple Grove
5. White Bear Lake
6. Cretin-Derham Hall
7. Elk River
8. Eagan
9. Stillwater
10. Hopkins
Last but not least Roseau
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:25 am
by karl(east)
toothpick25 wrote:No one cares about class A hockey.
Top 10 For AA Hockey.
1. Moorhead
2. Woodbury
3. Hill-Murray
4. Maple Grove
5. White Bear Lake
6. Cretin-Derham Hall
7. Elk River
8. Eagan
9. Stillwater
10. Hopkins
Last but not least Roseau
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:00 pm
by Shovel Shot
toothpick25 wrote:No one cares about class A hockey.
Top 10 For AA Hockey.
1. Moorhead
2. Woodbury
3. Hill-Murray
4. Maple Grove
5. White Bear Lake
6. Cretin-Derham Hall
7. Elk River
8. Eagan
9. Stillwater
10. Hopkins
Last but not least Roseau
You can't be serious. Obviously you must have some weird sense of humor or are just looking for some rebuttle.
I guess the porch light must be flickering eh!!! 
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:27 pm
by StillAnEagle
toothpick25 wrote:No one cares about class A hockey.
Top 10 For AA Hockey.
1. Moorhead
2. Woodbury
3. Hill-Murray
4. Maple Grove
5. White Bear Lake
6. Cretin-Derham Hall
7. Elk River
8. Eagan
9. Stillwater
10. Hopkins
Last but not least Roseau
Couldn't agree more with your quote about class A - time to step up and play with the big boys. Or are you afraid of the risk of not having your team ranked in a top 10 list (because some notoriety is better than none!).
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:30 pm
by StillAnEagle
Top 5 - any one of these teams could beat eachother on any given day. I'd normally say Edina emerges, but they've shown they can loose too. I've seen Jefferson play 2x and have been disappointed both times.
1. Edina
2. Centennial
3. Eden Prairie
4. Duluth East
5. Jefferson
6. Tonka
7. Blaine
8. Maple Grove
9. Hill-Murray
10.Holy Angels[/list]
