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Re: The Don

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:25 am
by mngopherfan
Goldy23 wrote:
mngopherfan wrote:
Hoops wrote: If he is a "93" 9th grader I stand corrected...then there is no reason he shouldn't be there...I thought he was a "95" which would make him the only one...which would not look good.
He's a 93...very solid player. Had trouble with his size this year, i think he grew 4-5 inches last summer. Great stick skills and hockey smarts. he'll do fine there. The Opperman kid who is on one of the teams was a stud for that Wayzata team, better than Lucia and Besse in my opinion...
All three of them are very good players. To bad Lucia is sticking it out at Wayzata or the whole line would be playing at Breck next year as both Besse (if he stays) and Opperman have been at Breck since kindergarden! Go Mustangs!!!!!
Where is Besse thinking about going?

Agree

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:26 am
by northwoods oldtimer
Totally agree Doglover it is just fun "stirring the pot". :P Hopefully all the boys have a great experience at the camp.

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:23 am
by seek & destroy
micdangles97 wrote:It’s interesting that the 3 teams (that id call wild cards in the state tourney) Rochester Lourdes- Hutchinson- Virginia have minimal kids in the camp
Correct me if I’m wrong but
Lourdes -2 kids
Hutchinson- 2 kids
Virginia – 0 kids
For those who like to look at school representation here is a sorted list by school.

Academy of Holy Angels Ryan Ablan
Academy of Holy Angels Tommy Burke
Academy of Holy Angels Tyler Craig
Academy of Holy Angels Cullen Hurley
Academy of Holy Angels Joseph LaBate
Academy of Holy Angels Luke McNamara
Academy of Holy Angels Connor Polacek
Academy of Holy Angels Connor Reilly
Academy of Holy Angels Ryan Reilly
Academy of Holy Angels Mikey Reilly
Academy of Holy Angels Tyler Smith
Andover Ryan Bennett
Andover Mitch Sand
Apple Valley Michael Berens
Apple Valley chris fischer
Apple Valley Peter Sikich
Apple Valley Derek Smith
Apple Valley AJ Michaelson
Apple Valley Adam Robson
Barrington High School Kyle Martin
Bemidji Jesse Nemgar
Benilde St Margarets Sam Anderson
Benilde St Margarets Patrick Daly
Benilde St Margarets WIll Nelson
Benilde St Margarets Patrick Steinhauser
Benilde St Margarets Jacob Meyers
Benilde St Margarets Christian Horn
Benilde St Margarets Brett Patterson
Blaine Nick Bjugstad
Blaine Danny Harper
Blaine tony larson
Blaine Eric Scheid
Blake Ryan Bullock
Blake Cameron Falvey
Blake Ryan Hayes
Bloomington Jefferson Zach Knight
Bloomington Jefferson Tyler Dietzler
Bloomington Jefferson Joe Faust
Bloomington Jefferson Jeffrey Pauluk
Breck Charlie Borer
Breck Riley Borer
Breck Cameron Born
Breck David Crowe
Breck Tyson Fulton
Breck michael mooney
Breck Michael Morin
Breck Chase Nystedt
Breck Ben Gislason
Breck Grant Opperman
Breck John Russell
Burnsville Adam Smyth
Burnsville Charlie Mosey
Cambridge-Isanti Garrett D'Aigle
Centennial Jake Flynn
Chaska Zach Wilkinson
Cloquet Jack McFarlane
Cretin-Derham Hall mark alt
Cretin-Derham Hall Riley Dombek
Cretin-Derham Hall Jesse Perron
Crookston Minnesota Mark Bittner
Crookston Minnesota Morgan Terpstra
Delano Tyler Heinonen
Delano Nickolas McLain
Des Moine Buccaneers Ryan Walters
Detroit Lakes Alexander Phelps
Eagan Ian Haun
Eagan Alec Merchant
Eastview Ryan O\'Shea
Eden Prairie Michael Erickson
Eden Prairie Mitchell Rogge
Eden Prairie Jack McCartan
Eden Prairie Dan Molenaar
Edina Johnny Ankeny
Edina Blake Chapman
Edina Ryan Cutshall
Edina Michael Sit
Edina Maxwell Everson
Edina David Jarrett
Edina cole kretzman
Edina Charlie Taft
Elk River Ben Jaremko
Elk River Ryan Jaremko
Elk River Levi Lutz
Falls Broncos Matthew Youso
Faribault Ryan Dwyer
Faribault Sean Lipinski
Faribault bo putrah
Faribault George Richie
Farmington Tyler Grubb
Fergus Falls Lucas Gervais
Fergus Falls Derek Kinder
Forest Lake Danny Fick
Forest Lake Trevor Waldoch
Grand Rapids John Skrbec
Greenway Garrett Orhn
Hastings Ryan Bussey
Hermantown CHAD BANNOR
Hermantown Willis Kantonen
Hermantown Corey Kolquist
Hermantown Connor Hady
Hermantown Adam Krause
Hermantown Jeff Paczynski
Hibbing Nathan Tromp
Hill Murray Ben Bahe
Hill Murray Chris Casto
Hill Murray JD Cotroneo
Hill Murray William Faust
Hill Murray Jordan Johnson
Hill Murray Timothy Shaughnessy
Hill Murray Jack Walsh
Hopkins Travis Boyd
Hopkins Kyle Dalton
Hopkins Alex Fons
Hopkins Archie Skalbeck
Hutchinson Logan Hahn
Hutchinson Michael Hantge
John Marshall Rockets Bryan King
Lafayette Garrett Schmitz
Lake of the Woods Alex Lyon
Lake of the Woods Joncarlo Westerlund
Lakeville North Tim Kuzniar
Lakeville South Drew Brevig
Lakeville South john kloos
Lakeville South Justin Parizek
Lakeville South Travis Seurer
Little Falls Flyers Adam Dougherty
Mankato East Dan Billiar
Maple Grove Dan Carlson
Maple Grove Alec Horton
Maple Grove Rick Norenberg
Marquette Midget Major 18u AAA Ryan Crosson
Minnetonka Erik Baskin
Minnetonka Troy Hesketh
Minnetonka Tommy Lundquist
Minnetonka Max Gardiner
Minnetonka Justin Holl
Minnetonka Jim Kruger
Minnetonka Derek Frawley
Minnetonka Andrew Prochno
Minnetonka Thomas Schutt
Minnetonka Jake Thornberg
Monticello Quin Buckellew
Monticello Evan Hesse
Monticello Thomas Mitchell
Mound Westonka Nick Kuehl
Mound Westonka Colin Mayer
North Metro Stars ANDREW PITTS
Pembina AAA Manitoba Midget Reed Peters
PF Changs Justin Havriliak
Providence Academy Patrick Pulles
Providence Academy Mike Taffe
Providence Academy Evan Wilson
Red Wing High Patrick Noesen
Robbinsdale Armstrong Jack Goihl
Rochester Century Drew Anderson
Rochester Century Cameron Sellnow
Rochester Lourdes Brandyn Chezick
Rochester Lourdes Rory Vesel
Rogers Chad Miller
Roseau Shane Omdahl
Rosemount Andrew Anderson
Rosemount Brady Loew
Russell Stover U16 AAA Midget Team Zach Sauerer
Sartell Matthew Nahan
Sartell Ryan Nahan
Sartell Austin Plaine
Sauk Rapids-Rice Ethan Prow
Shattuck-St. Marys Jason Clark
Shattuck-St. Marys kyle lee
Sioux Falls Stampede Blake Thompson
South St. Paul ADAM WILCOX
Spring Lake Park nick turbitt
St. Cloud Cathedral Alex Koopmeiners
St. Cloud Cathedral Nicholas Maiers
St. Cloud Tech Mitch Hall
St. Cloud Tech Matt Hansen
St. Francis Andy Benik
St. Louis Park Jacob Wood
St. Paul Academy James Trevathan
St. Paul Academy Wyatt Wenzel
St. Thomas Academy Taylor Fleming
St. Thomas Academy noah gavin
St. Thomas Academy Justin Crandall
St. Thomas Academy Joseph Graveline
St. Thomas Academy AJ Reid
St. Thomas Academy Zack Wynne
Stillwater High School Alexander Chuhel
Stillwater High School Blake Dochniak
Stillwater High School Wilson Housley
Stillwater High School Tristan Pennella
Stillwater High School KYLE MOGREN
Stillwater High School Benjamin Wiegand
Thief River Falls Zane Gothberg
Totino Grace Joe Hockert
Totino Grace Mike Parnell
Totino Grace Cole Salewski
Warroad Carson Gray
Warroad Brett Hebel
Warroad Joey Olson
Waseca Blake Malecha
Wayzata Seth Barnes
Wayzata Anthony Cameranesi
Wayzata Scott Holm
Wayzata Mario Lucia
Wayzata D J Jones
Wayzata Alex Clayton
Wayzata Bryan Tabery
Wayzata Danny Walsh
Wayzata Lucas Whelan
White Bear Lake Max Birkinbine
Winkler Flyers Jordan Neduzak
Winona Jay Moran
Winona Aaron Theis
Woodbury Michael Ness
Matt Limoseth

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:49 am
by micdangles97
I think your right its probably a correlation, anyone know, if those 4 kids (2 from lourdes and 2 from hutchinson) are any good?

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:38 pm
by TellItHowItIs
someone is making money $

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:57 pm
by High Flyer
micdangles97 wrote:I think your right its probably a correlation, anyone know, if those 4 kids (2 from lourdes and 2 from hutchinson) are any good?
Lourdes Vesel and Chezick are very good players

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:04 pm
by High Flyer
TellItHowItIs wrote:don't read into this camp to much, We all can list another 50 - 100 players we think could and should be here. its a huge money making event. look at the list and multiply by $400 +......

its nothing more then a fun camp that try's to give the impression they have the states top players. don't get me wrong there are good players there, but as I mentioned there are also some very so so players, and alot of very good ones not on this list. Kids enjoy it, learn something, just have fun. Your playing the game you enjoy. and if your in high school, there are not many years remaining for 95% of you.
Tellit-

I understand the "real benefit" to Lucia’s camp is all the exposure opportunities. From what I heard it is very well attended by several colleges that Lucia extends invitations to, along with representation from all the USHL teams.

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:06 pm
by Gopher Blog
TellItHowItIs wrote:don't read into this camp to much, We all can list another 50 - 100 players we think could and should be here. its a huge money making event. look at the list and multiply by $400 +......

its nothing more then a fun camp that try's to give the impression they have the states top players. don't get me wrong there are good players there, but as I mentioned there are also some very so so players, and alot of very good ones not on this list. Kids enjoy it, learn something, just have fun. Your playing the game you enjoy. and if your in high school, there are not many years remaining for 95% of you.
It does attract the vast majority of the state's best. Of course, it will never be "all" of them given the time of year, kids playing baseball, etc. As a camp, it does a much better job of putting together the state's best than any other option.

If anything, it is another good way for kids to skate in front of some college coaches and get some good knowledge on the college prep process, etc. Of course, there is some good coaching that goes on. But it is a fun event at its core. While I understand the desire to show stats, it has always been a pointless enterprise at the Model Camp. Kind of wish they'd go back to not publishing the numbers since they are seemingly overrated by some quite a bit. Early summer scrimmages, etc are not where you tend to see guys playing tough defense, etc...

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:00 pm
by micdangles97
I would have to say its a good camp, excellent for doing what the game is made for fun! and it has good coaching, good exposure and an overall great time.

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:20 pm
by youngblood08
Speaking of stirring the pot...................

Where are all the Woodbury kids?? Is this in spite of Guentzel (by the U) or in Support of him (by the Woodbury kids)?? As he helped out (ran a few practices) while these guys were in Bantams.

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:34 pm
by Doglover
Since they don't send out invites - I know quite a few good players who just missed signing up and had wanted to play.

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:33 pm
by brandy38
Does anyone know if the games are open to the public?

Hear Ya

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:44 pm
by northwoods oldtimer
Speaking of stirring the pot...................

Where are all the Woodbury kids?? Is this in spite of Guentzel (by the U) or in Support of him (by the Woodbury kids)?? As he helped out (ran a few practices) while these guys were in Bantams
Indeed Woodbury has some players. Is it a snub or alliance? Letting a great coach go that is for another thread. Good catch there youngblood08.

Re: Hear Ya

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:08 pm
by Gopher Blog
northwoods oldtimer wrote:Indeed Woodbury has some players. Is it a snub or alliance? Letting a great coach go that is for another thread. Good catch there youngblood08.
I think I hear black helicopters coming... it is all a massive conspiracy. :lol:

Even if such talk were valid (which I doubt), it would be a stupid move. It does nothing to hurt the camp or the people who run it because the camp goes on, the roster spots get filled by other good players, and those kids miss out on getting more exposure to scouts, etc. Why piss away a chance to further help your future over something that happened over a year ago and few people even care about any more?

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:25 pm
by CasseauCougar
brandy38 wrote:Does anyone know if the games are open to the public?
The games are at Ridder and Mariucci. They're wide open to the public.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:06 am
by High Flyer
Doglover wrote:Since they don't send out invites - I know quite a few good players who just missed signing up and had wanted to play.
If they wanted to play, why didn't they send in an application like everyone else?

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:08 am
by High Flyer
youngblood08 wrote:Speaking of stirring the pot...................

Where are all the Woodbury kids?? Is this in spite of Guentzel (by the U) or in Support of him (by the Woodbury kids)?? As he helped out (ran a few practices) while these guys were in Bantams.
Do you even know if any woodbury players sent in applications or are you just trying to make something out of nothing?

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:23 am
by youngblood08
"Totally agree Doglover it is just fun "stirring the pot". "

someone mentioned stirring the pot so I thought I would lend a hand. Don't know if any Woodbury kids applied or not, if they didn't just threw out an idea for why.

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:50 am
by summer
Looking at the list is a good indication of not only where the talent is, but what schools (student/athletes and coaches) take hockey seriously, and those that don't.

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:27 pm
by Doglover
Curious why there are only 4 EP players attending from the State Championship team? Maybe they also play baseball or a spring sport. Expected more to take advantage of this camp and it's exposure.

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:51 pm
by BodyShots
summer wrote:Looking at the list is a good indication of not only where the talent is, but what schools (student/athletes and coaches) take hockey seriously, and those that don't.
Or, we know where the money is. Not every parent can afford every dog and pony show!

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:43 pm
by summer
Doglover wrote:Curious why there are only 4 EP players attending from the State Championship team? Maybe they also play baseball or a spring sport. Expected more to take advantage of this camp and it's exposure.
They had three days of statewide exposure!

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:48 pm
by summer
BodyShots wrote:
summer wrote:Looking at the list is a good indication of not only where the talent is, but what schools (student/athletes and coaches) take hockey seriously, and those that don't.
Or, we know where the money is. Not every parent can afford every dog and pony show!
You are right of course, as noticed are so many from the "money" schools. I meant the passion and commitment that some have and some don't.

Re: ??

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:56 pm
by What_Im_talkin_bout
hockeyrocks wrote:
northwoods oldtimer wrote:Why is Mario Lucia on a team?
Uh....He's a sophomore, he's pretty darn good and it's his Dad's camp seem to be three pretty good reasons!
I won't begrudge the Don letting his kid come to his camp, but looking at the rosters it looks like Mario is the only kid that played Bantam A last year. Everyone else is HS or Juniors.

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:20 pm
by hockeyboys
There are over 20 93 birth year players at the camp. So - his age is not out of line. He may be the youngest - i didn't look that closely - but somebody has to be. at 6'1" - he apparently has the size.