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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:56 am
by TuckerMax93
ubugme wrote:
Saint Thomas Academy should be ashamed of more than you....
HAHA, ubugme that was classic. udontbugme at all.

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:58 am
by 25 sheet power
What are you talking about!? why do you care that warroad is 1A? R they just so good this year!?

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:59 am
by TuckerMax93
25 sheet power wrote:What are you talking about!? why do you care that warroad is 1A? R they just so good this year!?
I'm not mad that their A, I just maintain that they are Roseau's girly little sister, whether or not they beat them sometimes.

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:59 am
by HShockeywatcher
TuckerMax93 wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:
ubugme wrote: You say that like the tournaments are equal, just different.

That bugs me...
It bugs me that teams are allowed to opt up, but oh well :shock:
That's just because you don't like hearing about the town of 3000 moving up and the school that draws from about 3.5 million maintaining chicken status...or would you prefer cowards status?
No, it's because it ruins the quality of the sport. Taking the good, smaller schools out of the smaller school class takes away from the competition. If the couple handful of small schools that have had continued historical success all moved up, the winner of the Class A tourney would be no better than the 50th best team in the state with, which is a tier system (that has already failed), not a class system.

Look around the country. Often the best team in the state is not in the biggest class. Right now the 3rd best basketball team in the country is a 4A team in Texas. They are the unanimous top team in the state and from everything I've read on them I've never heard the phrase "it's too bad they're in 4A" or anything to that effect. They prove how good they are on the court, regardless of what class they are in.

There are countless other examples of good teams around the country. The MN state hockey semi finals and finals in both classes are another good example. For the most part, in most years, those 8 teams are generally all good teams, with the teams in bad sections weeded out. Well, if teams weren't allowed to opt up, the teams would be even better.

Oh wait, "hockey's different," my bad :roll:
ubugme wrote: It bugs me that there are schools who can choose their students based on athletic qualities while denying kids not so gifted, and then claim Class A status because of enrollment size.
Ha, you've never been in a private school I take it lol.

Wait a second, is Warroad private? How did this go from Warroad to private schools? :lol:

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:05 pm
by TuckerMax93
So, CircleTalker, you didn't like watching the town of 3000 take it to the big boys a couple years ago??

I really don't see a problem with teams moving up to prove they can play with the big boys, shows cajones.

I'm not saying all good teams should move up. I'm just saying Warroad doesn't have the goods to prove they should be spoke of in the same sentence as Roseau. And don't get me started on STA.

WARROAD

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:26 pm
by INDUS
DON'T TELL ME WARROAD IS RECRUITING AGAIN. SHAME ON THEM!!

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:33 pm
by 25 sheet power
Are we talking about girls hockey? If so I could care less and this should be moved.

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:36 pm
by 25 sheet power
Also Warroad is so much better then roso at girls hockey its laughable.

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:37 pm
by TuckerMax93
25 sheet power wrote:Also Warroad is so much better then roso at girls hockey its laughable.
A. We're talking guys.

B. Like you said, who cares?

C. That's because they recruit.

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:28 pm
by 25 sheet power
A. sure we are...
B. Why would the guys team move up?
C. Prove it. Way better hahaha come on Roso did u have 4 sog in the last game?

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:28 pm
by Trojanhorse
So here is my idea for restructuring.

Class 9A = Public Schools that are really big and take hockey very seriously.
This class includes Wayzata, EP, Edina, Minnetonka, Blaine and four other schools.

Class 8A=Public Schools that are pretty big and take hockey pretty seriously. this includes Osseo, Coon Rapids, Andover, and seven other schools

Class 7A is for small public schools that take hockey very seriously.
Includes Roseau, Warroad, Moorhead, and seven other schools.

Class 6A is for private schools that care about hockey

Class 5A is for private schools that don't care about hockey

Classes 1A to 4A are for public schools of various sizes who take hockey less seriously.

Then we can have nine state champions and even more arguments about what class everyone should play in.

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:32 pm
by ubugme
HShockeywatcher wrote:
Wait a second, is Warroad private? How did this go from Warroad to private schools?
Why did private chicken start posting in the Warroad thread?

Do you think they need you to defend them?

Do you think they want you to defend them?

I'm sure their plenty bugged that you did...

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:48 pm
by davinci
ubugme wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:
Wait a second, is Warroad private? How did this go from Warroad to private schools?
Why did private chicken start posting in the Warroad thread?

Do you think they need you to defend them?

Do you think they want you to defend them?

I'm sure their plenty bugged that you did...
UBG, you brought up the privates. We've heard the whining about privates a hundred times. Get over it.

And, by the way. U BUG ME

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:50 pm
by ubugme
davinci wrote:
And, by the way. U BUG ME
THANKS!!!

People with one ear bug me....

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:57 pm
by TuckerMax93
25 sheet power wrote:A. sure we are...
B. Why would the guys team move up?
C. Prove it. Way better hahaha come on Roso did u have 4 sog in the last game?
I don't think I can answer...

A. I'm not from Roseau

B. Why should they move up? They don't need to, they'll just always play second fiddle to Roseau if they don't.

C Prove it? Holly Roberts entire family lived in St. Cloud while she lived with a pretty well-known Warroad family in her words "to better her hockey career."

Need any more answers?

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:02 pm
by MNHockeyFan
TuckerMax93 wrote:C. Prove it? Holly Roberts entire family lived in St. Cloud while she lived with a pretty well-known Warroad family in her words "to better her hockey career."
If she tried that today (with her parents not moving) I don't think she would be eligible, unless she were to make the move before enrolling in 9th grade.

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:02 pm
by karl(east)
ubugme wrote:
davinci wrote:
And, by the way. U BUG ME
THANKS!!!

People with one ear bug me....
You're thinking of Van Gogh.

People who don't know their artists bug me. Okay, not really. But I just had to.

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:17 pm
by ubugme
karl(east) wrote:
You're thinking of Van Gogh.

People who don't know their artists bug me. Okay, not really. But I just had to.
There's the art crowd and there's the hockey crowd. How much overlap would you think there is?

It does explain your rankings though...

I just had too.... :)

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:29 pm
by letsbehonest
Won there section since 1996. So my question how many times can you win your section in 15 years before the state hockey knowledge gods decree you must move up to AA. Of course we all know that Warroad must move up, but what about the rest.


TEAM Section Champions since 1996
Warroad 9
Fergus Falls 7
Little Falls 5
Orono 5
Breck 5
Red Wing 5
Duluth Marshall 5
Rochester Lourdes 5
St Thomas Academy 5
Hermantown 5
Blake 4
Mahtomedi 4
East Grand Forks 4
St Cloud Cathedral 3

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:34 pm
by warriors41
MNHockeyFan wrote:
TuckerMax93 wrote:C. Prove it? Holly Roberts entire family lived in St. Cloud while she lived with a pretty well-known Warroad family in her words "to better her hockey career."
If she tried that today (with her parents not moving) I don't think she would be eligible, unless she were to make the move before enrolling in 9th grade.
So it's the schools fault that she moved to better herself? That doesn't mean she was "recruited." Some people just feel it is better for themselves to play for a winning team to be better recognized. That's all I got out of her statement. Just because people move there to play a sport, doesn't necessarily mean they were recruited.

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:39 pm
by TuckerMax93
warriors41 wrote:
MNHockeyFan wrote:
TuckerMax93 wrote:C. Prove it? Holly Roberts entire family lived in St. Cloud while she lived with a pretty well-known Warroad family in her words "to better her hockey career."
If she tried that today (with her parents not moving) I don't think she would be eligible, unless she were to make the move before enrolling in 9th grade.
So it's the schools fault that she moved to better herself? That doesn't mean she was "recruited." Some people just feel it is better for themselves to play for a winning team to be better recognized. That's all I got out of her statement. Just because people move there to play a sport, doesn't necessarily mean they were recruited.
Do the people of Warroad provide lodging for all outsiders looking for a place to play hockey? Would the Marvins have opened their doors to a crappy hockey player??

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:48 pm
by warriors41
TuckerMax93 wrote:
warriors41 wrote:
MNHockeyFan wrote: If she tried that today (with her parents not moving) I don't think she would be eligible, unless she were to make the move before enrolling in 9th grade.
So it's the schools fault that she moved to better herself? That doesn't mean she was "recruited." Some people just feel it is better for themselves to play for a winning team to be better recognized. That's all I got out of her statement. Just because people move there to play a sport, doesn't necessarily mean they were recruited.
Do the people of Warroad provide lodging for all outsiders looking for a place to play hockey? Would the Marvins have opened their doors to a crappy hockey player??
I would guess that a "crappy" player wouldn't better their situation much by moving to a town like Warroad so they wouldn't. In fact, they would worsen it because they probably wouldn't get much playing time.

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:48 pm
by karl(east)
ubugme wrote:
karl(east) wrote:
You're thinking of Van Gogh.

People who don't know their artists bug me. Okay, not really. But I just had to.
There's the art crowd and there's the hockey crowd. How much overlap would you think there is?

It does explain your rankings though...

I just had too.... :)
Not much of an overlap, I suppose. Though that booth of pond hockey watercolors they have at the state tourney always draws a pretty nice crowd.

I'm glad you appreciate the art in my rankings. :P

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:50 pm
by TuckerMax93
warriors41 wrote:
I would guess that a "crappy" player wouldn't better their situation much by moving to a town like Warroad so they wouldn't. In fact, they would worsen it because they probably wouldn't get much playing time.
So...no??? They wouldn't open their doors to a lesser player??? I don't think you answered the question so I can infer that means no.

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:55 pm
by warriors41
TuckerMax93 wrote:
warriors41 wrote:
I would guess that a "crappy" player wouldn't better their situation much by moving to a town like Warroad so they wouldn't. In fact, they would worsen it because they probably wouldn't get much playing time.
So...no??? They wouldn't open their doors to a lesser player??? I don't think you answered the question so I can infer that means no.
I don't personally know the Marvin's so I couldn't say for sure. I don't think that situation would ever come up so it's hard to say. However, I do know that many of the girls that do move to Warroad have friends there through hockey and that is part of the reason they feel comfortable making that move. I would suppose in that situation they would find someone to host them. I'm curious as to which Marvin Roberts was living with? Was it Gigi's parents? If so, it could be the situation I just explained.