Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:11 pm
Finals went as expected
Edina 9-1 over Andover
ER 4-0 over Blaine
Edina 9-1 over Andover
ER 4-0 over Blaine
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Geez is Edina good! Saw them today. I don't think they'll lose this year. After them elk river and Andover seemed like the best teams. I also thought if still water had any idea of positioning they would be very good.Trout wrote:Finals went as expected
Edina 9-1 over Andover
ER 4-0 over Blaine
Did you see any of the tournament? The few games I saw, Andover and elk river were much stronger. I also think stillwater would have beat stma THIS WEEKEND. These teams could change spots everyweekend with the exception of Edina who won't likely lose this year.Tellitlikeitis wrote:Edina is just too loaded, has good coaching and may not be touched this season. Andover in the championship game were simply outclassed in every aspect.
Edina's side of the bracket was stacked and they still rolled. STMA Finished 5th in that bracket. STMA may have won the other bracket if they were placed in that bracket.
Wasn't there to see. Interesting that every time someone wants to attack that man they seem to have orange in there name or something of the like. My understanding is they(jungles and him) seem to get a long well now.big orange wrote:Did enjoy the show or aka hot sauce or vanila ice have his suite on for another smack down by jungles
Absolutely agree!!!Trout wrote:
All in all if you take Edina out of the mix it would be a different team that wins this thing every time you play it.
When did the PWb1 teams ever play the squirt A team?...and fyi PWb1 green and white havn't played the fire for 2 years now as they are not allowed to, and if i recall the white never played them and only the green did and that was a few timesToomuchtoosoon wrote:PW B1 Green and White easily beat the SQ A, 99 fire beat Green and White.
Don't take things so literally-it is just an educated observation on the relative strengths of the teams. Don't start drooling too much over this SQA team. look at the current PWA team is compared to two years ago. Still very good, but obviously beatable.When did the PWb1 teams ever play the squirt A team?...and fyi PWb1 green and white havn't played the fire for 2 years now as they are not allowed to, and if i recall the white never played them and only the green did and that was a few times
True, but the last awesome Edina Squirt team was three years ago. Two years later they did in fact win Pee Wee State.Toomuchtoosoon wrote: Don't start drooling too much over this SQA team. look at the current PWA team is compared to two years ago. Still very good, but obviously beatable.
The Edina Bantam A team outscored their opponenets, 6-2, 6-2, 9-1, 9-6 and 11-1, rolling to victory with no serious challenge, their high school is doing pretty wellTrout wrote:I believe there are 5 first years on that team (someone may correct me here but I think that is the case). It is amazing for a large program like this to have that many first years on the team.
I think several of the other good teams have a good young core as well. The Stillwater guy I was standing next to said they have 5 first years this year the most they have had in many years. He also said they had none last year so they have no returning A squirts. Wayzata only has 1 if I am not mistaken. The smaller programs all have 4 or 5 returners each year as they don't have the depth in any class that the large programs do.
The fact that Edina has that many young guys and are still that consistently good is pretty amazing. Their B teams are loaded as well. They will certainly be very good next year as well. Not sure if the depth will be like this year but they will be very good none the less.
No doubt they will be beaten in the future, their training regimen, time they put on the ice and keeping those kids together has helped them get ahead at this young age. They practice twice a day sometimes (morning and afternoon) as squirts! Overboard...maybe. Does it mean they can sustain their advantage...maybe maybe not.
Many of these kids will be replaced by B Squirts that are not being burned out and move ins.DMom wrote:The Edina Bantam A team outscored their opponenets, 6-2, 6-2, 9-1, 9-6 and 11-1, rolling to victory with no serious challenge, their high school is doing pretty wellTrout wrote:I believe there are 5 first years on that team (someone may correct me here but I think that is the case). It is amazing for a large program like this to have that many first years on the team.
I think several of the other good teams have a good young core as well. The Stillwater guy I was standing next to said they have 5 first years this year the most they have had in many years. He also said they had none last year so they have no returning A squirts. Wayzata only has 1 if I am not mistaken. The smaller programs all have 4 or 5 returners each year as they don't have the depth in any class that the large programs do.
The fact that Edina has that many young guys and are still that consistently good is pretty amazing. Their B teams are loaded as well. They will certainly be very good next year as well. Not sure if the depth will be like this year but they will be very good none the less.
No doubt they will be beaten in the future, their training regimen, time they put on the ice and keeping those kids together has helped them get ahead at this young age. They practice twice a day sometimes (morning and afternoon) as squirts! Overboard...maybe. Does it mean they can sustain their advantage...maybe maybe not., I'd say that yes, they can sustain their advantage.
sounds like it all comes down to winning--the hell with the development of all the kids--just the few. Typical Edina-like mentalityTrout wrote:57special wrote:My son was a first year Edina Squirt B last year and is back in it. Thought he might have a chance to make the A team this year, but he didn't even get a chance.
All of the Edina Squirt B teams are pretty competitive this year. If you took the top four players off of each team you'd have a group that could compete with other A teams, and probably win at least half of their games. Probably the same could be said of Chaska and Wayzata, maybe Tonka.
I wish the stronger programs would field two A teams. I don't see the point in beating opponents 10-1 or 9-3 on a regular basis,as is happening on both the A and B level this year. Nobody wins in that scenario, IMO. And getting between 5-10 shots a game sucks for the goalies.
Interestingly enough Tonka didn't even put 15 skaters on their team...do you really think they could have 2 A teams and compete at that level? Chaska, no way could they have 2 A teams.
I agree Edina could do it if they split their teams equally but they wouldn't win all their games so they just won't do that. I know their B teams are good but they tried an A1 and A2 a few years ago and that didn't work because the second team only won a handful of games. It would be the same this year, at the A level they would need a few go to kids on each team and the second group just wouldn't have that.
Nearly all the smaller programs are putting 13 or 14 skaters on their teams to be able to compete (keeps their best players on the ice every other shift...I watched them do it this weekend, Andover, STMA etc..) so it seems to be going the other way. If you watched the squirt teams this weekend I bet only 1/2 were a full 15 skaters and 2 goalies.
DMom - when I said can they maintain their advantage I meant beat everyone by 10 goals not be one of the top 2 or 3 in the state. They will remain very near the top for the long haul because of their depth...no doubt. They will not keep beating everyone 10-1 when the get older, the other teams will catch up and they will lose some games, it is just the nature of the animal. The Edina A Bantam team has lost some games and there are teams that can hang with them.
Juiceman- take it uo with the Edina Association (I take it your an Edina guy)the_juiceman wrote:sounds like it all comes down to winning--the hell with the development of all the kids--just the few. Typical Edina-like mentalityTrout wrote:57special wrote:My son was a first year Edina Squirt B last year and is back in it. Thought he might have a chance to make the A team this year, but he didn't even get a chance.
All of the Edina Squirt B teams are pretty competitive this year. If you took the top four players off of each team you'd have a group that could compete with other A teams, and probably win at least half of their games. Probably the same could be said of Chaska and Wayzata, maybe Tonka.
I wish the stronger programs would field two A teams. I don't see the point in beating opponents 10-1 or 9-3 on a regular basis,as is happening on both the A and B level this year. Nobody wins in that scenario, IMO. And getting between 5-10 shots a game sucks for the goalies.
Interestingly enough Tonka didn't even put 15 skaters on their team...do you really think they could have 2 A teams and compete at that level? Chaska, no way could they have 2 A teams.
I agree Edina could do it if they split their teams equally but they wouldn't win all their games so they just won't do that. I know their B teams are good but they tried an A1 and A2 a few years ago and that didn't work because the second team only won a handful of games. It would be the same this year, at the A level they would need a few go to kids on each team and the second group just wouldn't have that.
Nearly all the smaller programs are putting 13 or 14 skaters on their teams to be able to compete (keeps their best players on the ice every other shift...I watched them do it this weekend, Andover, STMA etc..) so it seems to be going the other way. If you watched the squirt teams this weekend I bet only 1/2 were a full 15 skaters and 2 goalies.
DMom - when I said can they maintain their advantage I meant beat everyone by 10 goals not be one of the top 2 or 3 in the state. They will remain very near the top for the long haul because of their depth...no doubt. They will not keep beating everyone 10-1 when the get older, the other teams will catch up and they will lose some games, it is just the nature of the animal. The Edina A Bantam team has lost some games and there are teams that can hang with them.
MrBoDangles wrote:Many of these kids will be replaced by B Squirts that are not being burned out and move ins.DMom wrote:The Edina Bantam A team outscored their opponenets, 6-2, 6-2, 9-1, 9-6 and 11-1, rolling to victory with no serious challenge, their high school is doing pretty wellTrout wrote:I believe there are 5 first years on that team (someone may correct me here but I think that is the case). It is amazing for a large program like this to have that many first years on the team.
I think several of the other good teams have a good young core as well. The Stillwater guy I was standing next to said they have 5 first years this year the most they have had in many years. He also said they had none last year so they have no returning A squirts. Wayzata only has 1 if I am not mistaken. The smaller programs all have 4 or 5 returners each year as they don't have the depth in any class that the large programs do.
The fact that Edina has that many young guys and are still that consistently good is pretty amazing. Their B teams are loaded as well. They will certainly be very good next year as well. Not sure if the depth will be like this year but they will be very good none the less.
No doubt they will be beaten in the future, their training regimen, time they put on the ice and keeping those kids together has helped them get ahead at this young age. They practice twice a day sometimes (morning and afternoon) as squirts! Overboard...maybe. Does it mean they can sustain their advantage...maybe maybe not., I'd say that yes, they can sustain their advantage.
Little do you knowHockeyDad41 wrote:MrBoDangles wrote:Many of these kids will be replaced by B Squirts that are not being burned out and move ins.DMom wrote: The Edina Bantam A team outscored their opponenets, 6-2, 6-2, 9-1, 9-6 and 11-1, rolling to victory with no serious challenge, their high school is doing pretty well, I'd say that yes, they can sustain their advantage.
Given their large numbers - 175 Pee Wees a few years ago - there's really no way around that. Kids get better at different rates. Of course the best Squirts aren't the same as the best Bantams.MrBoDangles wrote:Many of these kids will be replaced by B Squirts that are not being burned out and move ins.