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rhino06 wrote:

Maple Grove Crimson#1 wrote:Rau gets my vote. But seriously how can Tim Bonner of Osseo not be a finalist? He's going to be the NWSC player of the year. I still think Rau is the top player in the state for my money.

I forgot how big of a role this had in the voting

Just saying If Jonny Brodzinksi is a Canidate Bonner should be since I think most that have seen both players would agree Bonner is better all around Player. just find it strange is all but i have no Honest Idea how the come up with the list so who knows.

starmvp wrote:

DubCHAGuy wrote:

MNHockey75 wrote:1. Rau (Minnesota) *State Champion*
2. Everson (Harvard) *State Champion*
3. Bahe
4. Daly (Wisco)
5. Brodzinski
6. Cameranesi (UMD)
7. LaBate
8. Fogarty (Notre Dame) *State Champion*
9. Hendrickson (SCSU)
10. Archibald (UNO)

I voted for Rau too but I also think Labate will finish much higher than that. He will probably take quite a few of the votes from the NHL scouts involved in the voting.

Do you know how many NHL scouts will be voting?

I'm not sure. This is all the voting information I know of: "The Mr. Hockey Award is given to the outstanding senior high school hockey player in the state of Minnesota and is selected by a panel of National Hockey League Scouts, Division I coaches and selected media members from around the state"

Anyone know the total number of voters and how it breaks down among scouts, coaches, and media?

DubCHAGuy wrote:

starmvp wrote:

DubCHAGuy wrote:I voted for Rau too but I also think Labate will finish much higher than that. He will probably take quite a few of the votes from the NHL scouts involved in the voting.

Do you know how many NHL scouts will be voting?

I'm not sure. This is all the voting information I know of: "The Mr. Hockey Award is given to the outstanding senior high school hockey player in the state of Minnesota and is selected by a panel of National Hockey League Scouts, Division I coaches and selected media members from around the state"

Anyone know the total number of voters and how it breaks down among scouts, coaches, and media?

This, IMHO, is the major problem with the award... no transparency. The conspiracy theories can never be snuffed out completely, but if they want us to believe that the Gopher recruits aren't favored, show us that the selection panel isn't made up entirely of former Gopher players... or maybe it is?

Brodzinski made a big splash in the Elite league and on the all star team. Bonner missed part of Elites due to injury but did put up equal numbers on a per game basis.

Bonner had more games vs weak teams this HS season, part of the reason for more points.

Brodzinski has more size and strength which equals more potential in the eyes of the scouts/committee.

Brodzinski has a cannon of a shot and great instincts and vision. Bonner is a tad quicker and maybe a bit more dangerous rushing the puck.

Blaine vs Osseo in two games: Bonner 1pt, Brodzinski 5pts.

Where will they be in two years?

Both must succeeed in juniors to get to D1, but a lot more eyes are on Brodzinski at this point.

Who would I'd rather have on my HS team right now? That's a tough call.

Given HS careers and current numbers, the edge goes to Rau.

Given the history of selections and that numbers don't mean all that much to this committee, I'd go with a defenseman over a forward, as there is no high end draft pick from this year's class of forwards like a Brock Nelson or Nick Bjugstad. I see LaBate as a higher pick over Rau for the NHL, but both behind Ambroz (USHL).

This leaves the choice between Harvard bound Everson vs Wisconsin bound Daly. Another tough call. USA hockey likes Everson as he is a '93 whereas Daly is a '92.

So my money (all of two cents) is on Max Everson.

my2cents wrote:Brodzinski made a big splash in the Elite league and on the all star team. Bonner missed part of Elites due to injury but did put up equal numbers on a per game basis.

Bonner had more games vs weak teams this HS season, part of the reason for more points.

Brodzinski has more size and strength which equals more potential in the eyes of the scouts/committee.

Brodzinski has a cannon of a shot and great instincts and vision. Bonner is a tad quicker and maybe a bit more dangerous rushing the puck.

Blaine vs Osseo in two games: Bonner 1pt, Brodzinski 5pts.

Where will they be in two years?

Both must succeeed in juniors to get to D1, but a lot more eyes are on Brodzinski at this point.

Who would I'd rather have on my HS team right now? That's a tough call.

I agree Brodzinksi has played a tuffer schedule over all but he also has a better over all team IMO which helps. end of the day its a toss up I agree. if they meet in the semi Finals will see who gets the last word.

Always a gopher, Rau

Stateofpuck09 wrote:Always a gopher, Rau

Definitely not always, but pretty often. Look back at the previous quotes you'll probably find an exact statistic

I think Rau will win it regardless, but here's an update of the section playoff stats...
The voting takes place after sections but before the State Tournament.

Usually the best player in the state wins the award and more times than not the best player in the state takes his talents to the Maroon & Gold.

The Exiled One wrote:I think Rau will win it regardless, but here's an update of the section playoff stats...

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Class Pos Name                School                 Gm G  A  Pts
AA    F   Josh Archibald      Brainerd               1  2  2  4
AA    F   Tony Cameranesi     Wayzata                1  1  3  4
AA    F   Joseph LaBate       Holy Angels*           1  2  1  3
A     F   Garrett Hendrickson Virginia               1  1  2  3
AA    F   Kyle Rau            Eden Prairie           1  1  2  3
AA    F   Steven Fogarty      Edina                  1  1  1  2
AA    F   Jonny Brodzinski    Blaine                 1  0  1  1
AA    F   Ben Bahe            Hill-Murray            0  0  0  0
AA    D   Patrick Daly        Benilde-St. Margaret's 1  0  3  3
AA    D   Max Everson         Edina                  1  0  0  0

*Eliminated

The voting takes place after sections but before the State Tournament.

Out of curiosity, I decided to check out how many of the winners (since the two class system started) made it to state their senior year and how many didn't.

1992 - Brian Bonin - No
1993 - Nick Checco - Yes
1994 - Mike Crowley - Yes
1995 - Erik Rasmussen - No
1996 - Dave Spehar - Yes
1997 - Aaron Miskovich - No
1998 - John Pohl - Yes
1999 - Jeff Taffe - Yes
2000 - Paul Martin - No
2001 - Marty Sertich - No
2002 - Gino Guyer - No
2003 - Nate Dey - No
2004 - Tom Gorowsky - Yes
2005 - Brian Lee - Yes
2006 - David Fischer - No
2007 - Ryan McDonagh - No
2008 - Aaron Ness - Yes
2009 - Nick Leddy - Yes
2010 - Nick Bjugstad - Yes

The interesting thing is out of the winners during these years, only five of them never went to the state tournament at all during their HS years (Rasmussen, Miskovich, Sertich, Dey, and Fischer).

Usually the best player in the state wins the award and more times than not the best player in the state takes his talents to the Maroon & Gold. Wink

Where the Gophers end up not doing much with that talent