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edgeless2 wrote:What association did Joey Anderson play his youth hockey?

BogeyMan wrote: Did not notice him standing in front chipping in goals while his linemates worked hard. Rather quite the opposite as he has worked to make them better

D3Referee wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:Extra! Extra! Read All About It!

''''Hill Murray Able To Pad Their Stats by Averaging Double Digits In The Last Six Games Against Cream Puff Opponents!'''''

Do you really expect them to play their first line more and beat those teams by 15 -20?

:lol: Joey is a nice player, but yes, they waited to bring him up for a reason. We'll see what he does at the Excel if they get there

Wallyworld wrote:

D3Referee wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:Extra! Extra! Read All About It!

''''Hill Murray Able To Pad Their Stats by Averaging Double Digits In The Last Six Games Against Cream Puff Opponents!'''''

Do you really expect them to play their first line more and beat those teams by 15 -20?

Joey is a nice player, but yes, they waited to bring him up for a reason. We'll see what he does at the Excel if they get there

I agree with Bogeyman here as well as point about the Moorhead game as Joey deflected one in.. He does both very well, I said that in my post i.e. he can also be around the net without the bigger guys knocking him around...

As for "Extra, Extra" You think I'm an idiot. They didn't change the balance of play between first and second lines for the weaker part of their later schedule. And of course I weighed SOS.. Believe me, Lavalle going for all time Hill points record and Slattery battling him for overall year point total, they didn't let down in later games. Of course they played 4th line more but that hits 1st & 2nd line fairly evenly.. So it's a fluid, dynamic stat but if you don't think it had to do with personnel change on 2nd line your smoking something..

And if you were at those 16 games what you saw first hand correlated with the stats I gave.. You think they waited until the cream puff part of schedule to move Joey up, you're wrong, as someone else said "Mills was not doing anything on the line and, nobody from 3rd was showing anything either so Lechner went with the youngster." (And the first game up was against STA and Joey had a nice give and go with Brown after Brown was back checking on the right side then threw a pass cross ice to Joey who kicked it back to him for the easy path to net and Brown fired over Zevnik's shoulder.. Then for Joey's goal, Brown was battling in the corner and eventually got it out to funk off to side who hit Joey in front of net and he backhanded one in... That's a pretty good summary of how things have gone since and the second line was dominant in that win against STA. The HUB gave top three stars to Dugas, Anderson & Brown - yeah that's a cream puff opponent- LOL Same with getting 3 of 5 G's against M'head - another cream puff opponent??) Do your homework before challenging mine. My stat said the 2nd line had 5 G's in 8 games before Joey and there's 5 G just against STA and Moorhead, with Joey.. ANd the pre-Joey 8 games mentioned include SSP, Mahtomedi, & Lakeville N.

And the results will only become more apparent as the season progresses into the next stage.

MrBoDangles wrote:

Wallyworld wrote:

D3Referee wrote: :lol: Joey is a nice player, but yes, they waited to bring him up for a reason. We'll see what he does at the Excel if they get there

I agree with Bogeyman here as well as point about the Moorhead game as Joey deflected one in.. He does both very well, I said that in my post i.e. he can also be around the net without the bigger guys knocking him around...

As for "Extra, Extra" You think I'm an idiot. They didn't change the balance of play between first and second lines for the weaker part of their later schedule. And of course I weighed SOS.. Believe me, Lavalle going for all time Hill points record and Slattery battling him for overall year point total, they didn't let down in later games. Of course they played 4th line more but that hits 1st & 2nd line fairly evenly.. So it's a fluid, dynamic stat but if you don't think it had to do with personnel change on 2nd line your smoking something..

And if you were at those 16 games what you saw first hand correlated with the stats I gave.. You think they waited until the cream puff part of schedule to move Joey up, you're wrong, as someone else said "Mills was not doing anything on the line and, nobody from 3rd was showing anything either so Lechner went with the youngster." (And the first game up was against STA and Joey had a nice give and go with Brown after Brown was back checking on the right side then threw a pass cross ice to Joey who kicked it back to him for the easy path to net and Brown fired over Zevnik's shoulder.. Then for Joey's goal, Brown was battling in the corner and eventually got it out to funk off to side who hit Joey in front of net and he backhanded one in... That's a pretty good summary of how things have gone since and the second line was dominant in that win against STA. The HUB gave top three stars to Dugas, Anderson & Brown - yeah that's a cream puff opponent- LOL Same with getting 3 of 5 G's against M'head - another cream puff opponent??) Do your homework before challenging mine. My stat said the 2nd line had 5 G's in 8 games before Joey and there's 5 G just against STA and Moorhead, with Joey.. ANd the pre-Joey 8 games mentioned include SSP, Mahtomedi, & Lakeville N.

And the results will only become more apparent as the season progresses into the next stage.

Low class if they "didn't change balance of play between their first and second lines" in those blowout games. 12-x, 10-x, etc

But I'm sure the coach had way more class than you think.

Great player! As I said before...

Wallyworld wrote:

MrBoDangles wrote:

Wallyworld wrote: I agree with Bogeyman here as well as point about the Moorhead game as Joey deflected one in.. He does both very well, I said that in my post i.e. he can also be around the net without the bigger guys knocking him around...

As for "Extra, Extra" You think I'm an idiot. They didn't change the balance of play between first and second lines for the weaker part of their later schedule. And of course I weighed SOS.. Believe me, Lavalle going for all time Hill points record and Slattery battling him for overall year point total, they didn't let down in later games. Of course they played 4th line more but that hits 1st & 2nd line fairly evenly.. So it's a fluid, dynamic stat but if you don't think it had to do with personnel change on 2nd line your smoking something..

And if you were at those 16 games what you saw first hand correlated with the stats I gave.. You think they waited until the cream puff part of schedule to move Joey up, you're wrong, as someone else said "Mills was not doing anything on the line and, nobody from 3rd was showing anything either so Lechner went with the youngster." (And the first game up was against STA and Joey had a nice give and go with Brown after Brown was back checking on the right side then threw a pass cross ice to Joey who kicked it back to him for the easy path to net and Brown fired over Zevnik's shoulder.. Then for Joey's goal, Brown was battling in the corner and eventually got it out to funk off to side who hit Joey in front of net and he backhanded one in... That's a pretty good summary of how things have gone since and the second line was dominant in that win against STA. The HUB gave top three stars to Dugas, Anderson & Brown - yeah that's a cream puff opponent- LOL Same with getting 3 of 5 G's against M'head - another cream puff opponent??) Do your homework before challenging mine. My stat said the 2nd line had 5 G's in 8 games before Joey and there's 5 G just against STA and Moorhead, with Joey.. ANd the pre-Joey 8 games mentioned include SSP, Mahtomedi, & Lakeville N.

And the results will only become more apparent as the season progresses into the next stage.

Low class if they "didn't change balance of play between their first and second lines" in those blowout games. 12-x, 10-x, etc

But I'm sure the coach had way more class than you think.

Great player! As I said before...

I said -" didn't change balance between just those two, 1st & 2nd" i.e. Ice time didn't go down for 1st compared to 2nd which are the only two lines we were comparing here.. Of course they both went down as time for 3rd & 4th went up but they decreased by about the same... Ask a player on 2nd line if their play went up compared to 1st line.. or same for a first liner asked about ice time compared to 2nd line...They stayed about the same..Really, it shouldn't be that complicated..

Tenoverpar wrote:Joey Anderson is not the first 8th grader to play Varsity at Hill and he won't be the last...kudos to the kid for being as good as he is and as a hockey fan it will be great to watch this kid while he's here, but can we please get off this kids tip and stop idolizing him....and wait until his balls drop and then see where he's at in a few years. The kids good but some of you sound like his personal propanda machine

Tenoverpar wrote:BLSPEC...easy cat, as you can see I acknowledge the kids skill...all I'm saying is maybe back off on the best ever type of stuff and instead just root for the kid. Maybe he is the next ONE out of Minnesota, who knows. He's one of many quality players in a great program, perhaps his early success is in large part to the linemates he is playing with and the chemistry they seem to have instantly formed. I'm not sure where you see negativity as opposed to more of a EASY kids which is what I was trying to say....sorry you're offended, you shouldn't be

Tenoverpar wrote:BLSPEC...easy cat, as you can see I acknowledge the kids skill...all I'm saying is maybe back off on the best ever type of stuff and instead just root for the kid. Maybe he is the next ONE out of Minnesota, who knows. He's one of many quality players in a great program, perhaps his early success is in large part to the linemates he is playing with and the chemistry they seem to have instantly formed. I'm not sure where you see negativity as opposed to more of a EASY kids which is what I was trying to say....sorry you're offended, you shouldn't be

BlueLineSpecial wrote:

Tenoverpar wrote:BLSPEC...easy cat, as you can see I acknowledge the kids skill...all I'm saying is maybe back off on the best ever type of stuff and instead just root for the kid. Maybe he is the next ONE out of Minnesota, who knows. He's one of many quality players in a great program, perhaps his early success is in large part to the linemates he is playing with and the chemistry they seem to have instantly formed. I'm not sure where you see negativity as opposed to more of a EASY kids which is what I was trying to say....sorry you're offended, you shouldn't be

I just get stressed out come section time, lol :evil: :twisted:

hockeymannorth wrote:if joey is such a great player why didn't he lead one of his Roseville teams past first round of district playoffs?He scores 8 goals against 6 of the worst teams in HS hockey playing for a HS that recuits like no other and now he's the superstar GO BEARS GO RAIDERS and Still pony up and ride over the Hill

HockeyFan1394 wrote:

hockeymannorth wrote:if joey is such a great player why didn't he lead one of his Roseville teams past first round of district playoffs?He scores 8 goals against 6 of the worst teams in HS hockey playing for a HS that recuits like no other and now he's the superstar GO BEARS GO RAIDERS and Still pony up and ride over the Hill

Have you read the discussion at all? And "Worst teams in HS hockey"? Oh yea, STA and Moorhead are the "worst teams". Arguably made the biggest impact in HM's victory over STA, and he and his line dominated the Moorhead game.

HockeyFan1394 wrote: Have you read the discussion at all? And "Worst teams in HS hockey"? Oh yea, STA and Moorhead are the "worst teams". Arguably made the biggest impact in HM's victory over STA, and he and his line dominated the Moorhead game.

D3Referee wrote:

HockeyFan1394 wrote: Have you read the discussion at all? And "Worst teams in HS hockey"? Oh yea, STA and Moorhead are the "worst teams". Arguably made the biggest impact in HM's victory over STA, and he and his line dominated the Moorhead game.

*sigh* OK, give it a rest HF1394 and WW.

Out of respect for Joey Anderson I passed on responding to this thread, but now I think it would be a disservice to Joey not to put this in perspective.

The thread really isn't about Joey Anderson or the Hill Murray second line. It's a nauseating, inappropriate and unneccsary promotional piece overhyping an relatively average accomplishment. I can only guess at the motives behind it and I am sure the team REALLY apreciates it

Here's the facts about Joeys contribution;

#Rank - Opp - Score - (Joeys pts)

# 3 St.Thomas 3-1 (1G, 1A)
# 25 Tartan 5-1 (1A)
# 28 Moorhead 6-4 (1G)
# 38 Mahtomedi 7-0 (1A)
# 71 N. St. Paul 8-4 (1A)
# 90 Henry Sibley 7-0 (1G)
#112 Simley 10-2(2G, 1A)
#128 SP ComoPark 12-1(1G)
#131 Richfield 12-0(3G, 2A)

So 16 points through 9 games.

The AVERAGE rank of these teams is 70th!!

In fact, 14 of Joey's 16 points have come against teams ranked 25-131 and MOST of Joeys points (9 of 16) have come against teams ranked lower than 110!

That's a schedule that ranks right up there with Achiever Academy, Spring lake Park and Cooper, except All 3 of those programs have youngsters with much more impressive accomplishments.

Both Trey Rooney (42 pts) from Cooper and Austen Long (45 pts) from Spring Lake Park had to actually LEAD THEIR TEAMS and did so without the benefit of linemates like Funk, Mills and Brown ... not to mention the puck moving defenseman that feed Mr. Anderson against these 70th+ ranked juggernauts.

Heck, Baron Thompson from Achiever Academy (an ACTUAL 8th grader) is a full year+ younger than Joey and racked up 46 points through 23 games (including an eye-popping 31 goals) against a similar schedule. Again, without benefit of "elite" Hill Murray linemates and defenseman.
Baron: http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/roster_playe ... son=100281

Hell, have a look at Maxwell Zimmer - a freshman just weeks older Joey, who has played a Class AA schedule in the Lake Conference AND Section 6AA and has piled up 27 points in 27 games. Some would suggest that accomplishment is 10 X's as impressive.

Joey is a good player and I don't doubt he will go on to great things. This thread to me is not about Joey, whom I have a great deal of respect for.

This thread is nauseating to me because it attemptis to elevate an individual at the expense of his team mates and anybody who knows anything about this great game of hockey knows that runs counter to what it's all about. It also couldn't have come at a worse time, as I'm sure all teams love prima-donna distractions at playoff time.

Joey Anderson, I suspect, would be the first to agree with that sentiment, as great hockey players recognize that greatness comes through the team.

Not taking anything away from Joey, as posting a point a game against the Top 90 teams in Minnesota High School Hockey is good - NOT great - and hardly worth a post suggesting he's the Hill Murray savior. Comparitive to what some other top youngsters are doing throughout the State, Joey's 9 game stint in the show against mostly bottom feeding teams ranks as "meh" to average, although I am sure there are big things in his future.

WW and HF1394 - you aren't doing him any favors with this type of public display of individualism. Especially when your spin flys in the face of the facts

tourneytickssince59 wrote:He is in 8th grade - how can some people say he is actually a 9th grader. He's not. it is what it is. Do you really think his parents held him back for hockey? Some kids are just not socially ready to start kindergarten at 5 yrs old and their parents wait until they are 6. There's advantages socially to being the oldest and not the youngest.Any reason to rip on a school with a very good hockey team made up of very skilled players. Want these kids to stay "home" and play for the association the "owe" all of their success to? Give them a reason to stay. Kids and parents, for that matter, are going to look and find the place that is best for their kids be it scholastically or athletically. Can't fault them for that. All the complaints about where kids go and how good they are just reek of jealousy.

hockeymannorth wrote:

tourneytickssince59 wrote:He is in 8th grade - how can some people say he is actually a 9th grader. He's not. it is what it is. Do you really think his parents held him back for hockey? Some kids are just not socially ready to start kindergarten at 5 yrs old and their parents wait until they are 6. There's advantages socially to being the oldest and not the youngest.Any reason to rip on a school with a very good hockey team made up of very skilled players. Want these kids to stay "home" and play for the association the "owe" all of their success to? Give them a reason to stay. Kids and parents, for that matter, are going to look and find the place that is best for their kids be it scholastically or athletically. Can't fault them for that. All the complaints about where kids go and how good they are just reek of jealousy.

well he is now 15yrs old so lets just say there are lots of 15yr olds playing HS hockey many are 10th graders most are 9th grade just saying can't compare him to most 8th graders when most are 13yrs old[/quot.






Time to lock this up it obviously run is course