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Windom should win out... They should beat luverne, waseca and fairmont.

If Litch doesn't get a win by the end of this week I don't see them winning a game the rest of the season. That would put them at 5-20-0 be hard not to seed Windom at #4 ahead of them. Right???

However, every time I bring this up the so call experts on here tell me I am crazy so what do I know...

Section 3A Notes
Little birdie told me.....
That Hutch is a mess right now heard from some Hutch people its team that cant seem to find a scorer. They told me they are ripe for an upset every night they play it seems because of lack of goal scoring. I think Litch will knock them off on Tuesday... That will settle things and lock up the 4 seed for the Dragons.

Speaking of the Dragons even though they have lost 13 straight my source in Litch says they remain very confident that they will be in Gustavus come Semi-final saturday. They play a very tough conference schedule and have played the other top three (Hutch, New Ulm Area, Marshall) all tough. They get Hutch and New Ulm Area at their home rink this week should be interesting to see what happens.

Also heard New Ulm Area is getting healthy Blake Neumann came back from a broken wrist played his first game since christmas on Friday night. And Drew Pfaff might be back from knee surgery in a week or two.

The Windom boys have really responded to Coach Ammerman seems a trip up north of bonding and playing hockey turned these guys around. They had Marshall on the ropes when they played the 2nd time. They are very confident about beating Luverne and getting revenge on Fairmont.

Heard from my Marshall source the team is full of Confidence. Coach Pearson has his boys believing. This was a team that beginning of the year locals tell me that most in the town had them being maybe .500 at the best after losing 13 letterwinners. What a wonderful job Coach Pearson has done as Marshall will lock up their 2nd straight SWC conference title on Tuesday and will have a shot to still get a 1 or 2 seed with a win on Thursday.

I know I give Coach Ammerman alot of credit (Which he deserves) but Marshall has been very consistent Coach Pearson's 8 years. Those type of coaches deserve to be mentioned and given credit....

Speaking of coaches heard from my Fairmont source that Coach Wilken will be on his way out as his son will graduate this year. Fairmont is a program is big trouble could use a young energetic coach like Ammerman to get in their and rebuild the youth and culture of Fairmont hockey.

Just thought I would share some of the newsworthy items I have picked up over the last 2 weeks talking to my local 3A guys.

timcorbin21 wrote: # 3 Luverne gets it with a spanking of Marshall on top of that they've been doing a better job of handling the lower end of the section except for the tie with morris. but morris isn't in the section. Luverne is still a young team.

First of all Luverne is not handling anyone of late:
4-2 vs. Redwood Valley
5-1 vs. Worthington
3-3 vs. Morris Benson Area

Most on here know they will be beat by an upcoming Windom on Tuesday.... Even then Marshall will win the SWC Conference...

At best Luverne maybe gets a 5 seed...

They tied a very weak MBA team that got beat by LDC, Marshall and Windom! ... Also that tie took them out of contention for a Conference Title which was their only shot at getting home ice in the first round.

I do agree though Luverne is very young they are lead by there Juniors & Sophomores but they are not 3 seed or even a 4 seed THIS YEAR...

Marshall is a lock for the 3 seed ... 4 Seed comes down to LDC and Windom in my mind

i have no words to say about hutch. There is talent on the team. I can't explain the situation...no words

I still believe. I believe Hutch is stronger than most of the section, even though they have struggled. They know how to play the game - many teams in this sections rely on one guy or two guys, and just slop the puck around.

I am sick of hearing about Luverne and Windom and I don't even know them. I don't believe Luverne spanked Marshall, and from "what a bird" or "leprechaun" told me the refs gave Luverne some big time help in that game. figures...timcorbin was probably the head ref

I think there could be upsets, but I still know that there is no way Windom or Luverne have true hockey sense or depth to win the section. BUT, if they made it to state, it would be the greatest embarrassment this section has ever seen... hate to say it, but this is one strange section this year...Hutch needs to get it together!

Just some rankings for you to ponder. (section 3 on the left and some common opp. on the right)

Pagstat from 1-28
#98 New Ulm
#109 Hutch
#114 Luverne
------- #119 St. Peter/Les
#121 Litch
#122 Marshall
-------- #126 Morris/Benson
#137 Windom
-------- #140 Waseca
#145 Redwood
#155 Worthington

My Hockey Rankings (class "A" only, these are a week or so behind)
#44 New Ulm
#46 Hutch
#51 Luverne
#55 Marshall
#56 Litch
---------- #57 St. Peter/Les
----------- #64 Morris/Benson
#67 Windom
----------- #72 Waseca
#76 Redwood
#81 Fair
#84 Worth

The only difference in the two is Pagstat has St. Peter in front of Marshall and Litch., and Litch and Marshall are flip flopped

The Kool aid some of you are drinking smells like processed animals.

Morris/Benson results with common opp., seem to have alot in common with section 3
MB 2 Marshall 3 (shots mb 27 marsh 30)
MB 4 Litch 6 (shots mb 19 litch 19)
MB 2 Luve 3 (shots mb 28 luv 34)
MB 3 Luve 3 (shots mb 24 luv 35)
MB 5 Wind 1 (shot mb 37 wind 27)
MB 3 Wind 6 (shots mb 38 wind 27)
MB 8 Worth 4 ?
MB 11 Worth 3 (shots mb 31 worth 18 )
MB 7 Redwood 4 (shots mb 40 red 14)

Should be a good week of meaningful games.

WOW----------- comparing scores with MBA, and they are lousy,, I will go with Hutch or New Ulm, dont have much faith with teams comparing to MBA ,, and Ill bet on New Ulm

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:
Most on here know they will be beat by an upcoming Windom on Tuesday.... Even then Marshall will win the SWC Conference...

At best Luverne maybe gets a 5 seed...

As someone who'd like to know more about these teams, why do you think a team that won 10-2 away in the first match up will lose at home in the second?

FTP's opinion is that Luverne is #2 right now, why do you think #5 at best?

HShockeywatcher wrote:

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:
Most on here know they will be beat by an upcoming Windom on Tuesday.... Even then Marshall will win the SWC Conference...

At best Luverne maybe gets a 5 seed...

As someone who'd like to know more about these teams, why do you think a team that won 10-2 away in the first match up will lose at home in the second?

FTP's opinion is that Luverne is #2 right now, why do you think #5 at best?

Chalk-Talk stick to Section 1A where you know the teams better....

As someone who watches all these teams on regular basis I can tell you a few things. First off the Clear favorite to win this Section is NEW ULM AREA.

Secondly Hutch should be a tough team just seem to be lost right now. They are in for an absolute battle against Litch tomorrow night!

As far as Windom vs Luverne I am not saying either will go to State (HutchtoState) I just think Windom is a nice little story. 10-2 was a game before Christmas and Windom started their back-up goalie who gave the game away.

Windom is a much different team now they are extremely hot and playing with a ton of confidence.

Here is a good example MBA beat Windom easily early in the year 5 to 1 played but the second time they played Windom pounded them 6 to 3 the same MBA team that Luverne just barely tied.

Luverne was hot for awhile but they look to be running out of gas barley beating teams like Redwood and Worthington and a tie with a VERY WEAK MBA (A team Windom hammered 6 to 3).

Trust me on this HShockeyWatcher Windom wins this game tomorrow night.

My Picks for tomorrow night (Super Tuesday in Section 3A)
Windom over Luverne
Litch upsets Hutch
New Ulm beats St Peter
Marshall hammers MBA
Worthington over Sioux Falls

Should be a fun night in 3A!

h20 wrote:WOW----------- comparing scores with MBA, and they are lousy,, I will go with Hutch or New Ulm, dont have much faith with teams comparing to MBA ,, and Ill bet on New Ulm

If you have been following this topic at all you know one the issues is that not all teams play everyone in the section. Or in the case of Luverne you they don't play Hutch, Litch, or NU . I just was looking at Morris/Benson scores and found some of the scores to be interesting and thought I would share. If you have something you would like to bring to the topic, I will read it and think about it.

Section3Ascout
Thanks for telling me what I do and don't know. This guy gets out and watchs his share of hockey.

You have gone from a guy that used to post his sunday section rankings to now guranteeing wins.

I have never said anyone is going to win or lose on here, I just called some people out for not giving Luverne a little credit. Most people on here are looking through their blue, purple, yellow, orange or red glasses and don't give the other top 5 or 6 teams any respect. I agree it either be NU or Hutch going to the X

4-0 luverne over windom after 2

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:Trust me on this HShockeyWatcher Windom wins this game tomorrow night.

I won't tell anyone if you don't...

Where would you all put St Peter? They just lost to New Ulm by 2 and they have 6 shut outs this season, including 4 in a row.

This section seems really close.

Luverne 8 - Windom 1. Shots, Luverne 45 - Windom 20. Blowout!!!! That definitely puts Luverne ahead of Windom in the seeding process. Windom isn't going to get seeded very high, probably 6th right behind Litchfield. Windom easily has the weakest schedule of the top 6 teams and they don't even have a full schedule (19 games). Their best wins this season were against LeSuer/St. Peter and Cambridge-Isanti (who I heard didn't play there first line). Hopefully they can win out against Waseca and Fairmont even though they have already lost to Fairmont once this season.

HShockeywatcher wrote:Where would you all put St Peter? They just lost to New Ulm by 2 and they have 6 shut outs this season, including 4 in a row.

This section seems really close.

Was at this game. Really a one goal game....open netter at the end. Good hockey game. Really physical especially in the 2nd period. NU had 3 power plays to LS/SP 0. Shots might reflect that a bit but NU is slightly better tonight than LS/SP. I would say the difference between these two teams lie with Petersen, Banal, and Schreckenberg. LS/SP doesn't have anyone at Peterson's level and he accounted for 2 goals. He puts NU over the top because he can score...which I think helps NU be the favorite for sure in 3A. LS/SP goalie played well tonight. They had a few kids that played hard, but also looked like they had a few kids that were a little gun shy and maybe didn't play as well as they did against Hutch. Their top scorer, 3, was one of those guys and didn't seem to help his linemates out much regarding getting his center the puck for what would have been some potential odd-man rushes. Schreckenberg is such a crafty player....did just enough to direct the puck out to center ice for Peterson's empty netter to seal it at the end.
Good hockey game though. Refs must not have seen the new rules video though...they were not very good. I thought this thing was going to get out of control in the 2nd, but it didn't.

Hutch 4 LDC 3,

Went to the game up and Litch and this game did not disappoint. Litch used a Cowger 5:00 Major penalty to their advantage scoring 2 power play goals to jump out to a 2 to 0 lead after one period. Then they scored quickly in the 2nd period and it looked like Litch was on their way up 3 to 0 However, Hutch answered with one in the second period and then scored three more unanswered goals in the third. Give the Tiger credit for gutting out a very tough road win.

Litch and Hutch were very evenly matched as anyone knows when these two teams meet up you can throw out the records. Litch is getting better and just now needs to figure out how to win these games.

As it is that is their 14th straight lose. While Hutch gets a much needed win good hockey game tonight.

Other Scores
Marshall beats MBA easily 6 to 3 to claim their 2nd SWC Crown (Congrats Tigers!!)
New Ulm slips by St. Peter 4 to 2 on empty netter late..
Side note St Peter is in Section 1A.
Luverne beats Windom 8 to 1 ... Windom has an off night it happens
Sioux Falls knocks off Worthington 3 to 1

Interesting night in 3A

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:

HShockeywatcher wrote:

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:
Most on here know they will be beat by an upcoming Windom on Tuesday.... Even then Marshall will win the SWC Conference...

At best Luverne maybe gets a 5 seed...

As someone who'd like to know more about these teams, why do you think a team that won 10-2 away in the first match up will lose at home in the second?

FTP's opinion is that Luverne is #2 right now, why do you think #5 at best?

Chalk-Talk stick to Section 1A where you know the teams better....

As someone who watches all these teams on regular basis I can tell you a few things. First off the Clear favorite to win this Section is NEW ULM AREA.

Secondly Hutch should be a tough team just seem to be lost right now. They are in for an absolute battle against Litch tomorrow night!

As far as Windom vs Luverne I am not saying either will go to State (HutchtoState) I just think Windom is a nice little story. 10-2 was a game before Christmas and Windom started their back-up goalie who gave the game away.

Windom is a much different team now they are extremely hot and playing with a ton of confidence.

Here is a good example MBA beat Windom easily early in the year 5 to 1 played but the second time they played Windom pounded them 6 to 3 the same MBA team that Luverne just barely tied.

Luverne was hot for awhile but they look to be running out of gas barley beating teams like Redwood and Worthington and a tie with a VERY WEAK MBA (A team Windom hammered 6 to 3).

Trust me on this HShockeyWatcher Windom wins this game tomorrow night.

My Picks for tomorrow night (Super Tuesday in Section 3A)
Windom over Luverne
Litch upsets Hutch
New Ulm beats St Peter
Marshall hammers MBA
Worthington over Sioux Falls

Should be a fun night in 3A!

Haha too bad this isn't baseball. 2 for 5 would be pretty good for a batting average.

3Ascout
You put your marbles in your wifes purse tonight. You have been guaranteeing a Windom win for a week and all you have to say is "everyone has an off night". You could give the Luverne boys some credit for going on the road and getting a nice win (or blowout in another posters therms). Your next rankings should be really intersting, I can't wait to see them.

You say Marshall "hammers" Morris/Benson, they got outshot! (shots MB 24-Marshall 21)

Losing credability

Chalk_Talk wrote:3Ascout
You put your marbles in your wifes purse tonight. You have been guaranteeing a Windom win for a week and all you have to say is "everyone has an off night". You could give the Luverne boys some credit for going on the road and getting a nice win (or blowout in another posters therms). Your next rankings should be really intersting, I can't wait to see them.

You say Marshall "hammers" Morris/Benson, they got outshot! (shots MB 24-Marshall 21)

Losing creditability

Actually the Hub has shots at 27 a piece, but the point is still the same. His guaranteed win turned into a blowout loss.

Chalk_Talk wrote:3Ascout
You put your marbles in your wifes purse tonight. You have been guaranteeing a Windom win for a week and all you have to say is "everyone has an off night". You could give the Luverne boys some credit for going on the road and getting a nice win (or blowout in another posters therms). Your next rankings should be really intersting, I can't wait to see them.

You say Marshall "hammers" Morris/Benson, they got outshot! (shots MB 24-Marshall 21)

Losing creditability

Luverne wins at Home, which anyone that watches this team knows it is very difficult to beat them at home, just ask Marhsall. The way the game started it looked like 3A Scout might be right. The difference in shots during the first period was Luverne having 2 power plays vs Windoms 1. The first Luverne goal was actually scored by a Windom defenseman Luverne did a great job of getting shots on goal when in their offensive zone, fun team to watch.

Windoms big problem tonight was their defense, their offense spent significant time in the Luverne end but time after time the puck would get brought out to the blue line only to be turned over by the D creating a bunch of odd man rushes, plus Windom had several players falling down, might need to get those skates sharpened? Windom needs to learn how to stay out of the penalty box, 2 majors!

My predictions right now for this Section:
1: New Ulm
2: Hutch
3: LDC
4: Luverne
5: Marshall
6: Windom
7: Fairmont
8: Redwood
9: Worthington

Maybe Windom had an off night or maybe they just lost to a better Luverne team?!? I am going to take the latter. Windom didn't play their best game against Luverne, but they also play with a complete lack of discipline. Luverne was the better team on Tuesday night and is overall the better of the 2 teams. People whine about Luverne having an easy schedule, Windom has the weakest schedule!!!! There toughest games all year were against teams in the Southwest Conference, that's not a good sign. Congrats to Marshall for locking up the Southwest Conference crown!!!! Playoff time is creeping closer, it'll be interesting to see how the teams in this section finish out the season. Marshall v. New Ulm on thursday, should be a good game.

My bad, I thought it was in Windom.

1. New Ulm
2. Hutch
3. Marshall
4. LDC

Only change will come to this order if Marshall happens to beat New Ulm...???

hutchtostate wrote:1. New Ulm
2. Hutch
3. Marshall
4. LDC

Only change will come to this order if Marshall happens to beat New Ulm...???

THANK YOU for your sanity.

Windom is not better than luverne. I wouldnt have put my marbles on them winning and rightfully so they didnt. People seeding Luverne over any of the top 4 are out of their minds. Luverne didnt even win the SW conference how can you seed them above Marshall? I'd be willing to bet they would lose to litchfield.

1.NU
2.Hutch
3.Marshall
4. Litch
5. Luverne
6. Windom
............................

if you see it any other way then youre a lost cause.

Unless LDC beats New Ulm there is no way a 5 win team gets a home game over Luverne. I get the schedule argument but you had better win one or two of those "tough" games and LDC hasn't . It doesn't mean Luverne is better than LDC but you don't reward a team for losing. Lee, Mitch, and QRF all have Luverne higher, 3Ahockeyscout doesn't but he blew his credibility and bias when he "guarnateed" a Luverne loss in a game that ended up in running time the other way.

Bender - Good points on the conference title... Agree with you there Marshall should be seeded ahead of Luverne.

Goldy- good point as well if LDC does not win on Saturday they are 5 seed. Now I could see them easily beating Luverne. That is not the point you cant give a 5 win team a home game they didn't earn that. However, I would still see them handling Luverne.

New2coaching- Yes Luverne is Tough at Home but so is Marshall they are undefeated at home this year. Everything will be on the line tonight with New Area in town.

Bender Question for you... Grant Sattler played on Marshall Varsity as an 8th grader. Now on St Thomas Academy... Why did he leave? Just think if Marshall's 4 D-man were Your brother & Walker, Buysse & Sattler... They would be going to State this year .... Still very well could. Just curious on what happened with him?

HUGE Game Tonight
Marshall vs New Ulm Area what are we thinking....