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northwoods oldtimer wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:06 pmI thought it was "blackout Todd's" year to drive the Hound bus to St. Paul
Wasn't trying to imply this Dover squad isn't a good team, they are a very good team. Again small sample size, but from what I saw of Edina at holiday classic vs Dover on one night, Edina looked to be the better team. You are absolutely correct that this years squad is not near as deep as the ER teams you mentioned. It will be a few years before ER has teams of that caliber again. Unfortunately none of those teams could get it done at Amsoil, hope the huskies can, tough place to win at. Good luck rest of the season and see you in January in your house!hockey59 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:20 pmNot saying ER couldn’t of tied it in last 2 minutes, they almost did. Aside from that, this is far & away the best team Andover has ever had. And while I’ve only seen Tonka once & haven’t yet seen Edina, if you’re saying the gap between 1&2 is a sizable gap, then the same applies to DE (compared to Tonka & Edina). ER on the other hand, had a phenomenal team in 2015, a great team in 2016 & a really great team in 2017. This ER team (by contrast) is solid, but nothing close to resembling those 3 teams in my opinionMWS coach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:33 pmWhile I agree with your take on the game some other observations. Agreed Andover controlled play, however they really didn't have many quality scoring chances from inside the house. Not minimizing the awesome game JK had in net, he played great and kept ER in the game. ER was clearly content to clog the middle and just get the puck out. Dover was the faster team and as such won the races to loose pucks which resulted in puck control and zone time. FWIW first line center was in the box for 12 minutes as a result of a misconduct. Hard to get first line going without your center. #18 is Jack Ferry, excellent skater and plays a physical game especially since he is far from the biggest D man on the ice. Admittedly I have only seen Andover in that game, but the separation between #2 Hornets and #3 Andover seems to be a sizeable gap.hockey59 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:58 am
I attended the ER vs Andover game & while the score ended up tight, Andover controlled all but the last 4 minutes of the game, in fact I’ve rarely seen an ER team having so little puck control the past 5 years, the only kid for ER who stood out during periods 1&2 was #18, a junior D & I don’t know his name, but the ER first line was totally shutdown until the last 5 minutes of the 3rd period. #4 Wolfe & #5 Kaiser play in separate tandems, but skill wise they are right up there with Luedtke & Docter (in terms of controlling the puck & play). And not sure why, but Charlie Schoun didn’t play last 10 minutes of 3rd period & wasn’t in the handshake line, so he might have got nicked up during the game. Andover got a little sloppy at the end, but minus some strong goaltending by ER, it could have been a 6-2 game
The phantom call for goaltender interference must have been the karma return from the stripes for getting the benefit of the call against GR OT goal!He should get an emmy for that performance. Always perplexing to me when a ref 20 feet away doesn't make a call, but the ref at the red line 100 ft away does...It could have just as easily been a 3-3 game (pipe) as a 8-2 game, which as others have said is why you play the game. After the game was played it wasn't either, it was 3-2!
I’m actually an Anoka guy, we birthed Andover back in 2002 & they have finally emerged as a NW Suburban & 7AA contender.MWS coach wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:23 amWasn't trying to imply this Dover squad isn't a good team, they are a very good team. Again small sample size, but from what I saw of Edina at holiday classic vs Dover on one night, Edina looked to be the better team. You are absolutely correct that this years squad is not near as deep as the ER teams you mentioned. It will be a few years before ER has teams of that caliber again. Unfortunately none of those teams could get it done at Amsoil, hope the huskies can, tough place to win at. Good luck rest of the season and see you in January in your house!hockey59 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:20 pmNot saying ER couldn’t of tied it in last 2 minutes, they almost did. Aside from that, this is far & away the best team Andover has ever had. And while I’ve only seen Tonka once & haven’t yet seen Edina, if you’re saying the gap between 1&2 is a sizable gap, then the same applies to DE (compared to Tonka & Edina). ER on the other hand, had a phenomenal team in 2015, a great team in 2016 & a really great team in 2017. This ER team (by contrast) is solid, but nothing close to resembling those 3 teams in my opinionMWS coach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:33 pm
While I agree with your take on the game some other observations. Agreed Andover controlled play, however they really didn't have many quality scoring chances from inside the house. Not minimizing the awesome game JK had in net, he played great and kept ER in the game. ER was clearly content to clog the middle and just get the puck out. Dover was the faster team and as such won the races to loose pucks which resulted in puck control and zone time. FWIW first line center was in the box for 12 minutes as a result of a misconduct. Hard to get first line going without your center. #18 is Jack Ferry, excellent skater and plays a physical game especially since he is far from the biggest D man on the ice. Admittedly I have only seen Andover in that game, but the separation between #2 Hornets and #3 Andover seems to be a sizeable gap.
The phantom call for goaltender interference must have been the karma return from the stripes for getting the benefit of the call against GR OT goal!
. Can speak from personal experience (2008 Anoka team went 21-7 NW Sub.champs, son a captain) that winning a section final either at the DECC or Amsoil on a Thursday school night is very difficult, seeing as DE & Cloquet are playing essentially a “home” game. Props to GR in 2006, 2007, 2016, 2017...as that’s a road game they won too...driving down primitive Hwy 2 
Very happy about the progress my Lumberjacks are makinggrindiangrad-80 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:15 pm It looks like CEC is starting to play like they were predicted to. That is good to see as 7AA should be real interesting from here on out. I'm betting Kniven is happy about it also.
0-2-0 2-7-0 3.7 6.2St Frannie ahead of Cloquet.kniven wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:44 pm QRF Rank
No. 2 Duluth East (88.5) 2-1-0 7-2-1 3.4 1.8 None
No. 4 Andover (83.9) 2-0-0 9-0-1 5.1 0.8 Won 2
No. 25 Elk River/Zimmerman (52.9) 2-2-0 5-7-0 3.6 4.2 Lost 3
No. 39 Forest Lake (41.7) 0-2-0 3-6-0 3.9 5.1 Lost 2
No. 39 Duluth Marshall (41.7) 1-1-0 3-7-1 3.5 4.5 Lost 1
No. 41 St. Francis (39.4) 1-0-0 5-6-0 3.6 4.2 Lost 1
No. 52 C-E-C (32.4) 1-1-0 4-8-0 3.3 2.8 Lost 1
No. 56 Grand Rapids (29.7) 1-1-0 4-9-0 2.4 4.1 Lost 1
No. 69 Cambridge-Isanti (9.
Cloquet should move up to 6th seed.Usthockey13 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:25 pm Those scores are as of dec 24th.. they updated the records but not the QRF score yet
2-0-0 9-0-1 5.1 0.8 Won 2 0-2-0 3-6-0 3.9 5.1 Lost 2So if DE were to hypothetically lose to Cloquet in the 7AA semifinals, who is beating (undefeated) Andover?TheHockeyDJ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:02 pm Looking pretty muddy in the wonderful QRF. Using actual logic it isn't difficult to see where these teams are. St. Francis has no business being any higher than 7 at any point in the season, but yay computers. Thankfully this doesn't matter right now and I keep hearing this will sort it self out by the end of the year. Grand Rapids has been nipping at the heals of some top ranked teams in Moorhead and WBL, hopefully they can snag a W on one of these Twin Cities trips as it would be a huge boost to their QRF score. One team I suspect will be at home in the quarters and won't be making a trip to Duluth this year is Elk River. No disrespect to them, but I just don't trust that squad this year. Forest Lake has enough fire power on their top line they could pull off an upset in a 3/6 type game. I don't think they'd have enough to beat East or Andover though. If East has to play Cloquet in the semi-finals, I could see both East and Andover not making it to the final. East gets anyone but CEC they are a lock to be in the section final IMO.
Not all computers have 7AA all screwed up. PageStat has St. Francis 8th.TheHockeyDJ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:02 pm Looking pretty muddy in the wonderful QRF. Using actual logic it isn't difficult to see where these teams are. St. Francis has no business being any higher than 7 at any point in the season, but yay computers. Thankfully this doesn't matter right now and I keep hearing this will sort it self out by the end of the year. Grand Rapids has been nipping at the heals of some top ranked teams in Moorhead and WBL, hopefully they can snag a W on one of these Twin Cities trips as it would be a huge boost to their QRF score. One team I suspect will be at home in the quarters and won't be making a trip to Duluth this year is Elk River. No disrespect to them, but I just don't trust that squad this year. Forest Lake has enough fire power on their top line they could pull off an upset in a 3/6 type game. I don't think they'd have enough to beat East or Andover though. If East has to play Cloquet in the semi-finals, I could see both East and Andover not making it to the final. East gets anyone but CEC they are a lock to be in the section final IMO.
Well, though I don't trust Elk River in general come sections. Andover is their rival and the Elks played em close. Rapids could absolutely compete in that game too provided they keep improving. I've seen enough HS hockey in the last 30 years to know it's not unthinkable. This year alone we've seen Champlin Park beat East and Eveleth beat Chaska. Should anything be a surprise anymore?hockey59 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:36 pmSo if DE were to hypothetically lose to Cloquet in the 7AA semifinals, who is beating (undefeated) Andover?TheHockeyDJ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:02 pm Looking pretty muddy in the wonderful QRF. Using actual logic it isn't difficult to see where these teams are. St. Francis has no business being any higher than 7 at any point in the season, but yay computers. Thankfully this doesn't matter right now and I keep hearing this will sort it self out by the end of the year. Grand Rapids has been nipping at the heals of some top ranked teams in Moorhead and WBL, hopefully they can snag a W on one of these Twin Cities trips as it would be a huge boost to their QRF score. One team I suspect will be at home in the quarters and won't be making a trip to Duluth this year is Elk River. No disrespect to them, but I just don't trust that squad this year. Forest Lake has enough fire power on their top line they could pull off an upset in a 3/6 type game. I don't think they'd have enough to beat East or Andover though. If East has to play Cloquet in the semi-finals, I could see both East and Andover not making it to the final. East gets anyone but CEC they are a lock to be in the section final IMO.
This Andover team is REALLY GOOD though DJ... I hate to admit it... but they’re better than Anoka was in 2008 
I do like GR for next year, Brett Larson got himself a good one in Jack Peart! And ER is considerably down (this year) from the last 5 years or so 2-0-0 9-0-1 0-2-0 3-6-0 10 of final 13 games in Cloquet/Twin Ports. I want Andover in the semi-final so much!!!!!!!!