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Friday - December 14th

Wahpeton-Breckenridge at Red Lake Falls RLF with the close W
Park Rapids at East Grand Forks PR livin the dream
Thief River Falls at International Falls I Falls looks to be tough to beat this year
Hibbing at Warroad Hard to bet against Warroad
Greenway-Coleraine at Lake of the Woods This will be close
Morris-Benson at Bagley-Fosston They need to pick up the first W sometime
Walker-Hackensack-Akeley at Detroit Lakes By atleast 5

Saturday - December 15th

Morris-Benson at Red Lake Falls Stickin with Section 8
East Grand Forks at Lake of the Woods EGF just to much
Greenway-Coleraine at Warroad Warroad with another W
Kittson Central at Fort Frances (Ont.) F.F. has beat everone else up, whats to stop them this time
Bagley-Fosston at St. Paul Saints To long of a trip and out matched
Mora at Walker-Hackensack-Akeley This may be a close one???

mohunk wrote:An interesting side note--Park Rapids first varsity hockey game back in the day was against Bagley with the winning goal IIRC being scored by Bagley's Ben Brovold, who is now the coach at Walker-Hackensack-Akely, with their first varsity game having been against Park Rapids.

I was at this game. Brovold is 1 of the best in the history of Bagley, IMO. Very good player and I wish him the best at WHA...

Undercover Hockey Lover wrote:Don't flatter yourselves...YOUR not on that level. A glimmer is all it is.

Since it appears you're the king of comprehension around these woods, maybe you can spell "your" right and then get back to me...

newsguy35 wrote:Hopefully we can move to A's soon. I hear it is driving the varsity head coach nuts trying to adjust from Bantam B to HS for hte kids...

Moving to A's killed Park the first few years but it was the best thing that ever happened to the program(Credit Mike Hafner and Mike McMorrow). Some players and most parents hated it because they want to be competitive, but you have to pay the price in order to turn things around...Again, this is not a diss on Bagley people, it's simply the best analogy I know of... I would like nothing more to have Bagley turn things around. I still miss those outdoor games enclosed by all the big pine trees...

schwang17 wrote:

mohunk wrote:An interesting side note--Park Rapids first varsity hockey game back in the day was against Bagley with the winning goal IIRC being scored by Bagley's Ben Brovold, who is now the coach at Walker-Hackensack-Akely, with their first varsity game having been against Park Rapids.

I was at this game. Brovold is 1 of the best in the history of Bagley, IMO. Very good player and I wish him the best at WHA...

Bagley always has a good player or two just never very good teams. ben Brovold and his brother Jon were both very good players to come out of Bagley. Jon is still there with kids in the program. Ben will have Walker going in the right direction .

State Champ 97 wrote:

schwang17 wrote:

mohunk wrote:An interesting side note--Park Rapids first varsity hockey game back in the day was against Bagley with the winning goal IIRC being scored by Bagley's Ben Brovold, who is now the coach at Walker-Hackensack-Akely, with their first varsity game having been against Park Rapids.

I was at this game. Brovold is 1 of the best in the history of Bagley, IMO. Very good player and I wish him the best at WHA...

Bagley always has a good player or two just never very good teams. ben Brovold and his brother Jon were both very good players to come out of Bagley. Jon is still there with kids in the program. Ben will have Walker going in the right direction .

Mike Thorson, Bryantt Bolduc, Chris Fletcher and Dillon Spray. The problem with the team we have is there is such a steep drop from the good players to the less experienced. Hopefully we will play all 3 periods tonight and pick it up. We really havent been blown out of games this year, just havent played 3 full periods and with as few players as we have it is impossible to win without all 3 periods.

All hockey communities have equilibriums or comfort zones. The only one who can shift that equilibrium is a visionary who can fix what ills that community before he is run out of town.

In my opinion a HS team can't win if the youth teams compete at the "B" level. But what you have to remember is some communities don't care, competing and enjoying some success at the youth levels far outweighs a HS section championship.

If you look at 8A, every community has something that prevents it from reaching its full potential, it's just some communities already have an equilibrium that breeds section titles.

In my lifetime I have only seen on community completely shift its equilibrium.

Shanty - Have the Pirates changed their mascot to something named Kellie Ann Cormican?

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Irishmans Shanty wrote:All hockey communities have equilibriums or comfort zones. The only one who can shift that equilibrium is a visionary who can fix what ills that community before he is run out of town.

In my opinion a HS team can't win if the youth teams compete at the "B" level. But what you have to remember is some communities don't care, competing and enjoying some success at the youth levels far outweighs a HS section championship.

If you look at 8A, every community has something that prevents it from reaching its full potential, it's just some communities already have an equilibrium that breeds section titles.

In my lifetime I have only seen on community completely shift its equilibrium.

That's it! Lock'er up!

Unfortunately some "B" teams are unable to play "A" because the teams in the area will not play them. Way back when I was a part of a "B" team that used to beat up on all of the cities "B" teams but when the talk of becomming an "A" team came about none of the "A" teams wanted to travel north to play us. I believe that it is possible to have a good varsity team with only "B" level kids comming up, but a great team would be stretching it. As a group of "B" level kids comming up we were 1 goal away from state in high school 2 out of the 4 years playing Varsity.

Irishmans Shanty wrote:All hockey communities have equilibriums or comfort zones. The only one who can shift that equilibrium is a visionary who can fix what ills that community before he is run out of town.

In my opinion a HS team can't win if the youth teams compete at the "B" level. But what you have to remember is some communities don't care, competing and enjoying some success at the youth levels far outweighs a HS section championship.

If you look at 8A, every community has something that prevents it from reaching its full potential, it's just some communities already have an equilibrium that breeds section titles.

In my lifetime I have only seen on community completely shift its equilibrium.

And which direction did they take, forward or back?

I'm not following you, can't play "A" because others won't play you?

Register as an "A" program and your in, right?

As a little Shanty
-Baudette played "A".
-RLF played "B"
-Bagley played "B"
-Hallock played "B"
-Park Rapids, well, their football team used to run a deadly counter reverse.
-Walker, they were using the ice to fish in those days


RLF fielded a decent HS team then and I think their years of competing at the "B" level really hurt them, truth be told, their numbers were equal to or better than ours were. Meanwhile, Baudette went to districts and took on the behemoth's.

greatone wrote:Unfortunately some "B" teams are unable to play "A" because the teams in the area will not play them. Way back when I was a part of a "B" team that used to beat up on all of the cities "B" teams but when the talk of becomming an "A" team came about none of the "A" teams wanted to travel north to play us. I believe that it is possible to have a good varsity team with only "B" level kids comming up, but a great team would be stretching it. As a group of "B" level kids comming up we were 1 goal away from state in high school 2 out of the 4 years playing Varsity.

At the youth level all district teams MUST play the other teams of the same level. The balance of the schedule may be difficult to fill, but things can be done to accomodate that process.

Several years ago all the girls teams in District 16 (essentially Section 8A) were made to play A level. This year 4 8A teams are ranked in the top 10 of single A, I believe.

elliot you know this stuff, If a town decides to play "A" at the youth level, are they locked in for a duration of time or can they go up and down in the years they see fit.

Irishmans Shanty wrote:elliot you know this stuff, If a town decides to play "A" at the youth level, are they locked in for a duration of time or can they go up and down in the years they see fit.

They can change from year to year.

In D16, everyones first team is an A team. At the September meeting an association can request to play their first team at a lower level. Typically Red lake Falls, Bagley and Hallock make that request. This year Hallock stayed at the A level with their pee wee team.

We can change their level in that year but must do it by December 31. The earlier the better for scheduling purposes.
We can also allow a B level team to play against A level teams within the district (in D16 case we can also do that with D15) where appropriate.

PR over egf
I-falls over trf
warroad over hibbing
coleraine over low

SB24 wrote:PR over egf
I-falls over trf
warroad over hibbing
coleraine over low

PR 6 EGF 5
I-falls 4 TRF 1
Warroad 6 Hibbing 2

Coleraine vs LOW ???

Right on, SB 24

SB24 wrote:PR over egf
I-falls over trf
warroad over hibbing
coleraine over low

Good Call!!

SiouxRecruit wrote:

SB24 wrote:PR over egf
I-falls over trf
warroad over hibbing
coleraine over low

Good Call!!

MBA-3
Bagley-2

We lost in OT because for some reason we changed all 4 pk'ers at the same time... Hopefully get them tomorrow.

newsguy35 wrote:

SiouxRecruit wrote:

SB24 wrote:PR over egf
I-falls over trf
warroad over hibbing
coleraine over low

Good Call!!

MBA-3
Bagley-2

We lost in OT because for some reason we changed all 4 pk'ers at the same time... Hopefully get them tomorrow.

Alot of excuses out of the newsman...

schwang17 wrote:

newsguy35 wrote:

SiouxRecruit wrote: Good Call!!

MBA-3
Bagley-2

We lost in OT because for some reason we changed all 4 pk'ers at the same time... Hopefully get them tomorrow.

Alot of excuses out of the newsman...

No excuses to be honest. We just couldnt put it in the net before the third period. We pounded them in every aspect of the game except our PP and goals... Shots were BFCG-33 MBA-30 but all of theirs were from the point or breakaways. Like I said, we played a great game, just gotta find a way to get the young guys to put a few in the net.

newsguy35 wrote:

schwang17 wrote:

newsguy35 wrote: MBA-3
Bagley-2

We lost in OT because for some reason we changed all 4 pk'ers at the same time... Hopefully get them tomorrow.

Alot of excuses out of the newsman...

No excuses to be honest. We just couldnt put it in the net before the third period. We pounded them in every aspect of the game except our PP and goals... Shots were BFCG-33 MBA-30 but all of theirs were from the point or breakaways. Like I said, we played a great game, just gotta find a way to get the young guys to put a few in the net.

And its kind of funny how the PR haters were in here talkin up EGF or hating on PR and now its silent... What happened?

Hey Pat Sweeney sorry to burst your bubble, but it was all the PR people saying how much of a god Lehrke is and how Park is so great. Not people saying EGF is amazing or they are the best team in the state... And dont get me wrong but park did beat the wave last night, but if christanson would have been in net it would have never gone into OT and Park would have had a dissapointing ride home. Well take it or leave it those are just my two cents on things

Sat Dec 15

Morris-Benson (#97) @ Red Lake Falls (#142)
East Grand Forks (#53) @ Lake of the Woods (#105)
Greenway-Coleraine (#83) @ Warroad (#41)
Kittson Central (#119) @ Fort Frances (Ont.)
Bagley-Fosston (#150) @ St. Paul Saints
Mora (#123) @ Walker-Hackensack-Akeley (#151)

Hey newsguy- we're not PR haters, just realists. Just like the game last night, that wasn't the real EGF team, short a goalie and five skaters.