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Re: Section 7AA 2015-16
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:06 am
by BodyShots
TheHockeyDJ wrote:General consensus out there has East, Rapids, and Elk River as top 10 teams this year.
And just think. It was just a few months ago that this statement started this thread about 7AA (the most over-hyped section in the state).
Based on Karl's current rankings, this section doesn't even have 1 team in the top 10!
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:30 am
by TheHockeyDJ
3 huge games in the next week: Cloquet at Duluth Marshall on Tuesday (northwoodsradio.com), Elk River at Duluth East on Saturday (92.1 Fan Duluth), 2/1 Cloquet at Duluth East (northwoodsradio.com and 92.1 Duluth).
Loser of CEC and Marshall is probably a 5 seed. Winner is at 4 with a chance at 3. ER/East will set ER 1 and GR at 2 with an elks win. If East wins then as Karl put it, the top 3 seeds go by overall resume which bodes well for GR having a 6-1 section record. If CEC beats East, then East has enough section loses to be 4 or 5. East if they win both section games is probably a 2 seed.
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:17 am
by GraniteCity22
What do people think section seedings would be as of today?
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:22 am
by Usthockey13
GraniteCity22 wrote:What do people think section seedings would be as of today?
1. ER
2 GR
3 DE
4 CEC
5DM
6FL
7AND
8STF
9CBI
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:32 am
by elliott70
Usthockey13 wrote:GraniteCity22 wrote:What do people think section seedings would be as of today?
1. ER
2 GR
3 DE
4 CEC
5DM
6FL
7AND
8STF
9CBI
Remaining significant games:
Duluth East vs,
Sat, Jan 30 vs. Elk River/Zimmerman
Mon, Feb 1 vs. C-E-C
CEC vs
Tue, Jan 26 at Duluth Marshall
Pagestat rankings
1. GR
2. ER
3. DE
4. CEC
5. DM
6. FL
7. And
8. SF
9. Camb
I think it will go as UST has it unless...
DE beats ER, then it would go like pagestat has it.
IF DE loses both then CEC may slip to #3.
If DM beats CEC then they flip flop.
I think 6 to 9 is pretty much set.
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:33 am
by elliott70
Regardless of seeding I think GR beats ER to go to state.
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:15 pm
by TheHockeyDJ
St. Francis 3, Andover 2. St. Francis will be the 7 seed. Andover will play Cambridge in the 8/9 Cannon Fodder Bowl.
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:20 pm
by mulefarm
Looks like it will be a semifinal matchup of East and GR.
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:28 pm
by TheHockeyDJ
mulefarm wrote:Looks like it will be a semifinal matchup of East and GR.
Based on what? ER hasn't locked the 1 seed and Cloquet could sweep East to grab the 3 seed. Two huge games before we have any idea who is 1-4. 5-9 look solid.
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:29 pm
by mulefarm
Head to Head
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:33 pm
by TheHockeyDJ
mulefarm wrote:Head to Head
Well, that certainly is definitive. I obviously know what two teams you are talking about here...or if you mean a 1/4 semifinal or a 2/3.
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:33 pm
by east hockey
TheHockeyDJ wrote:mulefarm wrote:Looks like it will be a semifinal matchup of East and GR.
Based on what? ER hasn't locked the 1 seed and Cloquet could sweep East to grab the 3 seed. Two huge games before we have any idea who is 1-4. 5-9 look solid.
If East beats Elk River and loses to Cloquet, I can see 1) Rapids 2) Elk River 3) Cloquet 4) East.
If East beats Elk River and Cloquet, swap East and Cloquet
If East loses to Elk River, beats Cloquet, swap Rapids and Elk River
If East loses both, just shoot me.
1) Elk 2) Rapids 3) Cloquet 4) East
But I can understand how you want Rapids to play
anyone but East in the semifinals, given their playoff history.
Lee
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:34 pm
by karl(east)
With Cloquet's win over Marshall tonight, I don't think the Hilltoppers are going any higher than #5. They've played two very good games against section opponents (East and Rapids), but other than that, their resume is pretty sparse. Brainerd is their only other win that even approaches "quality" status, and I don't foresee that changing.
If East loses to Elk River, East-Cloquet decides 3 vs. 4. If East beats Elk River, it comes down to overall body of work...and with an ER loss to East, I'd put Rapids at #1, with some chance of East rising to the top if they win out and/or a GR loss or two.
I wonder what happened to Andover...they had some decent results in the section in December, and even last week they gave Elky a good game, but the wheels have come off lately. Congrats to St. Franny on probably avoiding the first round fun.
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:35 pm
by TheHockeyDJ
east hockey wrote:TheHockeyDJ wrote:mulefarm wrote:Looks like it will be a semifinal matchup of East and GR.
Based on what? ER hasn't locked the 1 seed and Cloquet could sweep East to grab the 3 seed. Two huge games before we have any idea who is 1-4. 5-9 look solid.
If East beats Elk River and loses to Cloquet, I can see 1) Rapids 2) Elk River 3) Cloquet 4) East.
If East beats Elk River and Cloquet, swap East and Cloquet
If East loses to Elk River, beats Cloquet, swap Rapids and Elk River
If East loses both, just shoot me.
1) Elk 2) Rapids 3) Cloquet 4) East
But I can understand how you want Rapids to play
anyone but East in the semifinals, given their playoff history.
Lee
History means we are due for another Patrick White game.
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:36 pm
by mulefarm
If the two best teams are ER and GR and they played and the score was 6-2. Who should be seated higher?
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:36 pm
by karl(east)
TheHockeyDJ wrote:History means we are due for another Patrick White game.
If you say the same thing every single year, eventually you'll get lucky, right?
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:40 pm
by TheHockeyDJ
mulefarm wrote:If the two best teams are ER and GR and they played and the score was 6-2. Who should be seated higher?
Right now yes, If Elk River loses to East that is no longer true that ER is the 1 seed as these 3 teams would be 1-1 vs each other. GR would probably move to 1 with a 6-1 section record. East has too many section losses to be higher than 2.
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:46 pm
by northwoods oldtimer
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:32 pm
by alcloseshaver
If the coaches vote on how teams are trending h2h matters less if it benefits your team. East used that a few years ago to drop ER down to 2 seed. I think East went with they were missing some players early. Now ER is scuffling with missing players but still beat Rapids 6-2 without Murray. Can speculate all we want but we won't be in the room voting so nothing would surprise me.
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:55 am
by alcloseshaver
TheHockeyDJ wrote:mulefarm wrote:If the two best teams are ER and GR and they played and the score was 6-2. Who should be seated higher?
Right now yes, If Elk River loses to East that is no longer true that ER is the 1 seed as these 3 teams would be 1-1 vs each other. GR would probably move to 1 with a 6-1 section record. East has too many section losses to be higher than 2.
Wouldn't ER just have 1 section loss also? 6-2 is 6-2, not like it was an ugly win. Would be ironic if East dropped to 4 and one of the teams trying to avoid them gets the one.
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:54 am
by TheHockeyDJ
alcloseshaver wrote:TheHockeyDJ wrote:mulefarm wrote:If the two best teams are ER and GR and they played and the score was 6-2. Who should be seated higher?
Right now yes, If Elk River loses to East that is no longer true that ER is the 1 seed as these 3 teams would be 1-1 vs each other. GR would probably move to 1 with a 6-1 section record. East has too many section losses to be higher than 2.
Wouldn't ER just have 1 section loss also? 6-2 is 6-2, not like it was an ugly win. Would be ironic if East dropped to 4 and one of the teams trying to avoid them gets the one.
Yes, but only playing 4 section games and half of those being Andover is too convenient to say ER gets the same treatment as other 7AA teams for having just one loss in the section. What if Andover played only two Section games against St. Francis, won both and said they should be a high seed?
Losing to unranked Maple Grove has to be part of the resume, as will the rest of their full season result. Don't be like Doug from FTP who likes to seed teams based on extracting one game on a schedule and pretending the other 24 games didn't happen. Elks gotta get out of the NWSC unless they are moving to 5AA. They need at least one game each with CEC and Marshall. It is going to be a close margin between ER and GR at the top either way. ER will have it locked up if they beat East. GR has 3 home games left before Feb 10. They need to take care of the Spuds and Hopkins, and a win over Holy Family would be a nice feather in the cap. Duluth East should be a 3 seed with a strong finish, maybe 2 if they beat ER. East deserves zero consideration for the 1 seed though with losses to CEC, Marshall, and GR.
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:14 am
by grindiangrad-80
mulefarm wrote:Looks like it will be a semifinal matchup of East and GR.
That would be great if they can both get there. No guarantees for either. They have played some real heart pounders over the years. I would like to see them go at it again this year.
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:19 am
by Tower power93
Tower power93 wrote:Tower power93 wrote:Here come the hounds!!! Watch out elk river, cloquet, and Grand Rapids. The hounds are doing their usual run late in the year and coming for another state tourney chance . We have all seen this show before 7AA.
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:11 am
by GPGT
What happened with east in the last few weeks or so.. ?? Seeing alot of 7-1 games , yes, against weaker teams , but the goal production is up quite a bit..was there alot of line swapping?
Last game I saw them play was a sad sad game against Marshall and Andover. Not that this late season win streak is abnormal, but this is clearly the weakest team in the past 9-10 years.
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:02 am
by TheHockeyDJ
The next two games will say a lot about East. Elks are a bit wounded right now but are still better than East's recent competition. Cloquet already beat East and always plays them tough. Gonna be a tall task though for CEC to beat East again and at Heritage this time.
