Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:44 am
No chance for CEC to fall that far in the QRF. However, I don’t understand the QRF tiebreak margin, so who knows.
The Largest Prep Hockey Message Board Community on the Web
https://www.ushsho.com/forums/
It’s a 2 year agreement to use it. Hopefully they vote again on it end of next year, but seems like the southern coaches like it which would give 5-4 votes to use it.Traxler wrote:I am pretty sure it is a done deal for this season. I am curious whether they have agreed to use QRF beyond this year.
I'm don't think QRF is such a bad thing. There may be one computer bias in play with QRF but there were nine coach's biases in play with the old system.Usthockey13 wrote:It’s a 2 year agreement to use it. Hopefully they vote again on it end of next year, but seems like the southern coaches like it which would give 5-4 votes to use it.Traxler wrote:I am pretty sure it is a done deal for this season. I am curious whether they have agreed to use QRF beyond this year.
East, Andover, Elk River, and Marshall ranked higher than Cloquet. And Forest Lake beat CEC.Traxler wrote:No chance for CEC to fall that far in the QRF. However, I don’t understand the QRF tiebreak margin, so who knows.
You must be looking at an old version of QRF. This is what I see today.kniven wrote:East, Andover, Elk River, and Marshall ranked higher than Cloquet. And Forest Lake beat CEC.Traxler wrote:No chance for CEC to fall that far in the QRF. However, I don’t understand the QRF tiebreak margin, so who knows.
Between Cloquet, DM & ER...2 of the 3 will be playing in the Qtr final Game of the season!Traxler wrote:You must be looking at an old version of QRF. This is what I see today.kniven wrote:East, Andover, Elk River, and Marshall ranked higher than Cloquet. And Forest Lake beat CEC.Traxler wrote:No chance for CEC to fall that far in the QRF. However, I don’t understand the QRF tiebreak margin, so who knows.
Duluth East (127.6)
Andover (109.5)
C-E-C (96.4)
Elk River/Zimmerman (95.6)
Duluth Marshall (90.4)
Forest Lake (85.2)
St. Francis (64.1)
Grand Rapids (54.7)
Cambridge-Isanti (28.0)
I was referring to KarlEast rankings.Traxler wrote:You must be looking at an old version of QRF. This is what I see today.kniven wrote:East, Andover, Elk River, and Marshall ranked higher than Cloquet. And Forest Lake beat CEC.Traxler wrote:No chance for CEC to fall that far in the QRF. However, I don’t understand the QRF tiebreak margin, so who knows.
Duluth East (127.6)
Andover (109.5)
C-E-C (96.4)
Elk River/Zimmerman (95.6)
Duluth Marshall (90.4)
Forest Lake (85.2)
St. Francis (64.1)
Grand Rapids (54.7)
Cambridge-Isanti (28.0)
As UST points out, there's still potential for a ton of movement in 3 through 5. But if this is how it ends, quarterfinals would be:Usthockey13 wrote:No. 4 Duluth East (134.1)
No. 12 Andover (107.6)
No. 16 C-E-C (99.3)
No. 17 Duluth Marshall (98.9)
No. 19 Elk River/Zimmerman (95.6)
No. 25 Forest Lake (87.![]()
No. 48 St. Francis (63.7)
No. 54 Grand Rapids (55.2)
No. 69 Cambridge-Isanti (27.
Looks like 1/2 & 6-9 are all but set.
Cloquet's remaining schedule: at DE, Proctor, at Grand RapidsDuluthguy wrote:As UST points out, there's still potential for a ton of movement in 3 through 5. But if this is how it ends, quarterfinals would be:Usthockey13 wrote:No. 4 Duluth East (134.1)
No. 12 Andover (107.6)
No. 16 C-E-C (99.3)
No. 17 Duluth Marshall (98.9)
No. 19 Elk River/Zimmerman (95.6)
No. 25 Forest Lake (87.![]()
No. 48 St. Francis (63.7)
No. 54 Grand Rapids (55.2)
No. 69 Cambridge-Isanti (27.
Looks like 1/2 & 6-9 are all but set.
#1 East vs.
#8 Rapids (assuming they win the play-in game with Cambridge)
#2 Andover vs
#7 St. Francis
#3 Cloquet vs.
#6 Forest Lake
#4 Marshall vs.
#5 Elk River
In that event, I'd like Andover's first round spot best: the 4/5 match-up is obviously going to be a toss-up no matter who's in it; Forest Lake has already beaten Cloquet this year--and Forest Lake would be a tough out for no matter who gets the #3-seed; and the Hounds will have to beat Holum, who can steal a game from anyone.
Question: How often has a quarter-final game been a re-match of the previous year's section final? I'm guessing not very often, in any section.
Rapids pushed hard for it.Usthockey13 wrote:It’s a 2 year agreement to use it. Hopefully they vote again on it end of next year, but seems like the southern coaches like it which would give 5-4 votes to use it.Traxler wrote:I am pretty sure it is a done deal for this season. I am curious whether they have agreed to use QRF beyond this year.
And there is a certain irony in this.alcloseshaver wrote:Rapids pushed hard for it.Usthockey13 wrote:It’s a 2 year agreement to use it. Hopefully they vote again on it end of next year, but seems like the southern coaches like it which would give 5-4 votes to use it.Traxler wrote:I am pretty sure it is a done deal for this season. I am curious whether they have agreed to use QRF beyond this year.
Cloquet's remaining schedule: at DE, Proctor, at Grand RapidsDuluthguy wrote:As UST points out, there's still potential for a ton of movement in 3 through 5. But if this is how it ends, quarterfinals would be:Usthockey13 wrote:No. 4 Duluth East (134.1)
No. 12 Andover (107.6)
No. 16 C-E-C (99.3)
No. 17 Duluth Marshall (98.9)
No. 19 Elk River/Zimmerman (95.6)
No. 25 Forest Lake (87.![]()
No. 48 St. Francis (63.7)
No. 54 Grand Rapids (55.2)
No. 69 Cambridge-Isanti (27.
Looks like 1/2 & 6-9 are all but set.
#1 East vs.
#8 Rapids (assuming they win the play-in game with Cambridge)
#2 Andover vs
#7 St. Francis
#3 Cloquet vs.
#6 Forest Lake
#4 Marshall vs.
#5 Elk River
In that event, I'd like Andover's first round spot best: the 4/5 match-up is obviously going to be a toss-up no matter who's in it; Forest Lake has already beaten Cloquet this year--and Forest Lake would be a tough out for no matter who gets the #3-seed; and the Hounds will have to beat Holum, who can steal a game from anyone.
Question: How often has a quarter-final game been a re-match of the previous year's section final? I'm guessing not very often, in any section.
Second tiebreaker is overall win percentage, so it’s too early to tell who would get that between CEC and ER. Not sure I understand how tiebreakers work if there are 3 teams within the tiebreaker margin, which it seems 3, 4, and 5 will be.alcloseshaver wrote:If Elk River wins out they could get to the 3 seed? The Proctor game wont help CEC much. Elks need the teams they have played or have on their schedule to win some games. If within the TBD tiebreaker margin head to head is used but Elks don't play CEC or Marshall.
Its head to head 1st between the teams within the margin and then overall record percentage. Right now the Margin is 5.2 but they are projecting it will finish 6.3Traxler wrote:Second tiebreaker is overall win percentage, so it’s too early to tell who would get that between CEC and ER. Not sure I understand how tiebreakers work if there are 3 teams within the tiebreaker margin, which it seems 3, 4, and 5 will be.alcloseshaver wrote:If Elk River wins out they could get to the 3 seed? The Proctor game wont help CEC much. Elks need the teams they have played or have on their schedule to win some games. If within the TBD tiebreaker margin head to head is used but Elks don't play CEC or Marshall.
disagree. cec lost to forest lake. cec beat proctor 1-0 last year with a hot goalie. grand rapids has an all world goalie. and tonite vs. East at East. oh no. cloquet could easily be a 6 seedTraxler wrote:No chance for CEC to be anything below 5.